Re: [WebDNA] I'm stuck... :-(
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texte = Dan, I just got involved due to a technical request, and haven't had much to do with the site involved. I think its just being handled generically, much like yours. I did notice on the newer blackberry's and iphones, it renders correctly, but on the older styles a lot of positional elements are off. It looks like its just set to a standard width of 320. I know the person working on it is on this list, and its up to him if he wishes to expand on it more. The detection was actually the easy part, and even easier now with the list help. I would imagine you could expand on it and detect size as well, but that would probably take a few hours to dump them all in, and months to find them all. With the shelf live of must phones, I think we'll just stick to the newer versions. Here is a link to the file I used, but for the most part, I went thru some of the server logs for the site involved, as the list didn't seem up to date. I haven't even heard of half these things.... http://homepage.mac.com/rforest/downloads/mobile.zip More info, as well as files, at this link: http://studiohyperset.wordpress.com/2007/02/05/mobile-redirect-code-discussion-index/ And what I'm currently using is this: --------------- [If ("[url][browsername][/url]" ^ "iPhone")|("[url][browsername][/ url]" ^ "Blackberry")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^ "Samsung")|("[url] [browsername][/url]" ^ "Motorola")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^ "HTC")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^ "Casio")|("[url][browsername][/ url]" ^ "Orange")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^ "T-Mobile")|("[url] [browsername][/url]" ^ "Pocket PC")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^ "Opera Mini")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^ "Sharp")|("[url] [browsername][/url]" ^ "Cingular")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^ "SonyEricsson")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^ "Palm")|("[url] [browsername][/url]" ^ "Windows CE")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^ "Mobile Content Viewer")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^ "Google CHTML Proxy")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^ "Palmsource")|("[url] [browsername][/url]" ^ "Nokia")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^ "Smartphone")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^ "Opera 3.62")|("[url] [browsername][/url]" ^ "Reqwirelessweb")] [Then][REDIRECT url=mobile/index.html][/Then] [Else] Alternate redirect here, or leave blank if its self [/Else] [/if] ------------------- Sure would be nice to see some type of standardization for this area in that industry. ... :-( Rob On 25-Mar-09, at 3:49 PM, Dan Strong wrote: > Rob, > > I'm curious how you (or anyone for that matter) is/are handling > detection of other mobile devices. I have tried (and not yet > resolved) a way to catch all (or as many) mobile devices as I can so > I can serve mobile-friendly content. > > 1) I've thought about using the WRFL data source ( http://wurfl.sourceforge.net/ > ) but it contains a lot of irrelevant (for my purposes) data and > would require what appears to be a great deal of work and constant > upkeep, and/or > > 2) http://detectmobilebrowsers.mobi/ - php script. Haven't tried it. > Not against using php when I need to, but I try to do things via > WebDNA. > > 2) Detecting screen-size via javascript (if screen size is under, > say, 400px wide then serve mobile.css) ... but that won't always > work since not all mobile devices speak javascript... > > For now I'm doing like you are and detecting the most popular > devices, but I'd really love to be able to catch them all. It would > be nice if all mobile devices would add a standard descriptor to > their USER AGENT header, like --mobile-- or somethinglike that. > Anyhow, like I said, just curious. > > ** Cue the programmer with the "duh, you do it like this with a > single line of code" response ** > -Dan > > > > On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 14:55:29 -0600 > Rob
wrote: >> Yup.... Got it... Thanks.. >> Works perfect! ... Thanks for all the help... >> Rob >> On 25-Mar-09, at 2:16 PM, Donovan Brooke wrote: >>> Rob wrote: >>>> Darn.... I gotta remember to use the online docs instead of my >>>> own... got to used to working alone before the revival .. ;-) >>>> Thanks Paul... >>> >>> You will want to encode browsername most likely.. >>> >>> [if "[url][browsername][/url]"... >>> >>> >>> Donovan >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Donovan D. Brooke PH: 1 (608) 770-3822 >>> ------------------------------------------------ >>> VP >>> WebDNA Software Corporation >>> 16192 Coastal Highway >>> Lewes, DE 19958 >>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>> the mailing list . >>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >>> old archives: http://dev.webdna.us/TalkListArchive/ >> --------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >> old archives: http://dev.webdna.us/TalkListArchive/ > > --------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us > old archives: http://dev.webdna.us/TalkListArchive/
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Dan, I just got involved due to a technical request, and haven't had much to do with the site involved. I think its just being handled generically, much like yours. I did notice on the newer blackberry's and iphones, it renders correctly, but on the older styles a lot of positional elements are off. It looks like its just set to a standard width of 320. I know the person working on it is on this list, and its up to him if he wishes to expand on it more. The detection was actually the easy part, and even easier now with the list help. I would imagine you could expand on it and detect size as well, but that would probably take a few hours to dump them all in, and months to find them all. With the shelf live of must phones, I think we'll just stick to the newer versions. Here is a link to the file I used, but for the most part, I went thru some of the server logs for the site involved, as the list didn't seem up to date. I haven't even heard of half these things.... http://homepage.mac.com/rforest/downloads/mobile.zip More info, as well as files, at this link: http://studiohyperset.wordpress.com/2007/02/05/mobile-redirect-code-discussion-index/ And what I'm currently using is this: --------------- [If ("[url][browsername][/url]" ^ "iPhone")|("[url][browsername][/ url]" ^ "Blackberry")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^ "Samsung")|("[url] [browsername][/url]" ^ "Motorola")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^ "HTC")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^ "Casio")|("[url][browsername][/ url]" ^ "Orange")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^ "T-Mobile")|("[url] [browsername][/url]" ^ "Pocket PC")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^ "Opera Mini")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^ "Sharp")|("[url] [browsername][/url]" ^ "Cingular")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^ "SonyEricsson")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^ "Palm")|("[url] [browsername][/url]" ^ "Windows CE")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^ "Mobile Content Viewer")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^ "Google CHTML Proxy")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^ "Palmsource")|("[url] [browsername][/url]" ^ "Nokia")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^ "Smartphone")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^ "Opera 3.62")|("[url] [browsername][/url]" ^ "Reqwirelessweb")] [Then][REDIRECT url=mobile/index.html][/Then] [Else] Alternate redirect here, or leave blank if its self [/Else] [/if] ------------------- Sure would be nice to see some type of standardization for this area in that industry. ... :-( Rob On 25-Mar-09, at 3:49 PM, Dan Strong wrote: > Rob, > > I'm curious how you (or anyone for that matter) is/are handling > detection of other mobile devices. I have tried (and not yet > resolved) a way to catch all (or as many) mobile devices as I can so > I can serve mobile-friendly content. > > 1) I've thought about using the WRFL data source ( http://wurfl.sourceforge.net/ > ) but it contains a lot of irrelevant (for my purposes) data and > would require what appears to be a great deal of work and constant > upkeep, and/or > > 2) http://detectmobilebrowsers.mobi/ - php script. Haven't tried it. > Not against using php when I need to, but I try to do things via > WebDNA. > > 2) Detecting screen-size via javascript (if screen size is under, > say, 400px wide then serve mobile.css) ... but that won't always > work since not all mobile devices speak javascript... > > For now I'm doing like you are and detecting the most popular > devices, but I'd really love to be able to catch them all. It would > be nice if all mobile devices would add a standard descriptor to > their USER AGENT header, like --mobile-- or somethinglike that. > Anyhow, like I said, just curious. > > ** Cue the programmer with the "duh, you do it like this with a > single line of code" response ** > -Dan > > > > On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 14:55:29 -0600 > Rob wrote: >> Yup.... Got it... Thanks.. >> Works perfect! ... Thanks for all the help... >> Rob >> On 25-Mar-09, at 2:16 PM, Donovan Brooke wrote: >>> Rob wrote: >>>> Darn.... I gotta remember to use the online docs instead of my >>>> own... got to used to working alone before the revival .. ;-) >>>> Thanks Paul... >>> >>> You will want to encode browsername most likely.. >>> >>> [if "[url][browsername][/url]"... >>> >>> >>> Donovan >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Donovan D. Brooke PH: 1 (608) 770-3822 >>> ------------------------------------------------ >>> VP >>> WebDNA Software Corporation >>> 16192 Coastal Highway >>> Lewes, DE 19958 >>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>> the mailing list . >>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >>> old archives: http://dev.webdna.us/TalkListArchive/ >> --------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >> old archives: http://dev.webdna.us/TalkListArchive/ > > --------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us > old archives: http://dev.webdna.us/TalkListArchive/
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