Re: [WebDNA] Re:BCC and/or Character limit [sendmail]
This WebDNA talk-list message is from 2010
It keeps the original formatting.
numero = 105600
interpreted = N
texte = There should be no specific limit to the length of messages that can be = sent by [sendmail], though this tag has been thought as a basic way to = send emails from WebDNA, and not to mass mail. I suppose a direct access to a real mail server would be faster, by the = way of a function. Using shell, this page gives an interesting solution: http://www.mustap.com/phpzone_post_95_sending-email-in-php-the-hac - chris On Jul 17, 2010, at 11:28, Steve Raslevich wrote: > Hi Ken, >=20 > Thanks for replying. >=20 >> I'm not sure so you'll have to confirm this with Chris or someone who = actually knows, but my guess is that there is no built-in webdna limit = to the number of bcc addresses. > I did email Chris on this a few days ago and didn't get an answer. = That's why I've posted to the list again.=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> HOWEVER ... >>=20 >> I think that some mail servers are configured to reject mail with too = many cc's or bcc's in them, so this could be a problem for you even if = there is no hard limit in webdna. >>=20 >> =20 > Yes, I am aware of servers inbound monitoring and some that = temporarily reject emails coming from a given IP after a certain per = hour limit has been reached along with a fair understanding of how to = avoid getting on blacklists. Only made it on a blacklist once years ago = while using a shared SMTP server from a hosting company.=20 >=20 > I have recently installed Postfix on our Linux box and have it = configured to limit the number of emails that it sends to a given = server every so many seconds/max per hour. Prior to using WebDNA and = Postfix to send out to our email newsletter, I was sending out the mass = emails via a windows app that would send them in BCC packets of 50 to a = hosted SMTP server without issue however it took hours.=20 >=20 > This last send I used WebDNA and Postfix to send the email list out = and only included 35 BCC's per [sendmail] (in case there was some BCC = limit) which took the template several minutes to complete. I would like = to send somewhere in the neighborhood of 1000 BCC's per WebDNA = [sendmail] so the template completes sending all the mail to Postfix in = only a few seconds and then let Postfix do the queuing and governing of = sending the actual mail. >> =20 >>> I read somewhere in the "list archives" (posts were=20 >>> > from years ago) that [sendmail] has a 5000 character=20 >>> > limit. Can someone confirm this? >>=20 >> Sorry, I don't know about this but I kind of doubt it. Why would the = webdna sendmail context have such an arbitrary limit unless there were a = corresponding limit for all email in general? =20 >> =20 > As I mentioned above, the age of the post where I got this info is = years old and I was questing it myself. I'm still somewhat a newbie to = WebDNA and continue to look for clarity and help. >=20 > On a related topic, I also read that there is there a 5000 character = limit for a db field? Do I have this info correct? If so, maybe that is = where someone got the 5000 limit idea for [sendmail]. >> But if there is such a limit, one way to get around it is by = attaching a large file to your email rather than putting all that text = into the email body itself. >> =20 > Yes, the actual body of the email is very small. 2 lines of text. One = text link to view the newsletter as a web page and a second to = unsubscribe from receiving future newsletter emails from us. The actual = newsletter is an html file inserted in the body of the email with = [include file=3D] and it is usually fairly small. This last [include] = html file was only 151.1KB. >> Sincerely, >> Kenneth Grome >>=20 >> =20 >=20 > Best Regards, > Steve >=20
Associated Messages, from the most recent to the oldest:
There should be no specific limit to the length of messages that can be = sent by
[sendmail], though this tag has been thought as a basic way to = send emails from WebDNA, and not to mass mail. I suppose a direct access to a real mail server would be faster, by the = way of a function. Using shell, this page gives an interesting solution: http://www.mustap.com/phpzone_post_95_sending-email-in-php-the-hac - chris On Jul 17, 2010, at 11:28, Steve Raslevich wrote: > Hi Ken, >=20 > Thanks for replying. >=20 >> I'm not sure so you'll have to confirm this with Chris or someone who = actually knows, but my guess is that there is no built-in webdna limit = to the number of bcc addresses. > I did email Chris on this a few days ago and didn't get an answer. = That's why I've posted to the list again.=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> HOWEVER ... >>=20 >> I think that some mail servers are configured to reject mail with too = many cc's or bcc's in them, so this could be a problem for you even if = there is no hard limit in webdna. >>=20 >> =20 > Yes, I am aware of servers inbound monitoring and some that = temporarily reject emails coming from a given IP after a certain per = hour limit has been reached along with a fair understanding of how to = avoid getting on blacklists. Only made it on a blacklist once years ago = while using a shared SMTP server from a hosting company.=20 >=20 > I have recently installed Postfix on our Linux box and have it = configured to limit the number of emails that it sends to a given = server every so many seconds/max per hour. Prior to using WebDNA and = Postfix to send out to our email newsletter, I was sending out the mass = emails via a windows app that would send them in BCC packets of 50 to a = hosted SMTP server without issue however it took hours.=20 >=20 > This last send I used WebDNA and Postfix to send the email list out = and only included 35 BCC's per
[sendmail] (in case there was some BCC = limit) which took the template several minutes to complete. I would like = to send somewhere in the neighborhood of 1000 BCC's per WebDNA =
[sendmail] so the template completes sending all the mail to Postfix in = only a few seconds and then let Postfix do the queuing and governing of = sending the actual mail. >> =20 >>> I read somewhere in the "list archives" (posts were=20 >>> > from years ago) that
[sendmail] has a 5000 character=20 >>> > limit. Can someone confirm this? >>=20 >> Sorry, I don't know about this but I kind of doubt it. Why would the = webdna sendmail context have such an arbitrary limit unless there were a = corresponding limit for all email in general? =20 >> =20 > As I mentioned above, the age of the post where I got this info is = years old and I was questing it myself. I'm still somewhat a newbie to = WebDNA and continue to look for clarity and help. >=20 > On a related topic, I also read that there is there a 5000 character = limit for a db field? Do I have this info correct? If so, maybe that is = where someone got the 5000 limit idea for
[sendmail]. >> But if there is such a limit, one way to get around it is by = attaching a large file to your email rather than putting all that text = into the email body itself. >> =20 > Yes, the actual body of the email is very small. 2 lines of text. One = text link to view the newsletter as a web page and a second to = unsubscribe from receiving future newsletter emails from us. The actual = newsletter is an html file inserted in the body of the email with = [include file=3D] and it is usually fairly small. This last
[include] = html file was only 151.1KB. >> Sincerely, >> Kenneth Grome >>=20 >> =20 >=20 > Best Regards, > Steve >=20
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