Re: [BULK] Re: [WebDNA] [BULK] Mac OS X LION has no FastCGI

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2011

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texte = There, see Palle? Chris said that WebDNA 7 works under Apache when using the fastcgi module, so I guess you were misinformed or worried about nothing.Sincerely,Kenneth Grome> Lion as well as Snow Leopard and all other OSX versions> are using apache as web server. There is a module> fastcgi_module (mod_fastcgi.so) for all apache versions> and if it is not loaded by default on Lion, it is> certainly no difficult to load or install. So, nothing> to worry about: WebDNA.fcgi will run just as fine with> Lion as on almost all other web servers.> > - chris> > On Jul 24, 2011, at 16:30, Palle Bo Nielsen wrote:> > Hi Kenneth,> > > > Thank you for the sarcasm/irony. Besides being> > entertained by your reply I do not find it useful> > whatsoever.> > > > I have chosen to use Mac as a platform for web> > development as has many others. WSC has chosen to> > support the Mac platform as well as other platforms,> > which I appreciate.> > > > So now I just wanted to inform the community that there> > is no FCGI in Lion and at the same time ask for the> > WSC's official opinion on the challenge at hand.> > > > I rest my case and wish you a good day Kenneth, no> > matter what platform you choose. I am here to be a> > part of the community - not trying to have a war on> > platforms.> > > > Palle> > > > On 24/07/2011, at 21.16, Kenneth Grome wrote:> >>> It seems like Apple has chosen not to include FastCGI> >>> as an option in Mac OS X Lion or Mac OS X Lion> >>> Server.> >> > >> Big deal. Hardly anyone uses Mac servers any more> >> these days anyways, do they?> >> > >> Even if they do, why bother upgrading just because a> >> new version is released? If the version you're> >> currently using works fine, just keep using it!> >> > >> Or better yet, why not switch to Linux?> >> > >> The vast majority of the world's web servers run Linux> >> these days anyways. Maybe you should try it. Then> >> you won't have to worry about Apple's strange> >> decisions any more.> >> > >> I'm actually surprised that Apple is still producing> >> and marketing servers. I heard that they pulled the> >> plug on that division and were no longer producing or> >> selling server hardware or software ... but maybe> >> they just cut the server division's funding so much> >> that the dev team didn't have the resources to> >> include FastCGI.> >> > >> Apple has strangely abandoned other technologies while> >> they were still in heavy use too, so I'm not> >> surprised about this. But I fail to see why you're> >> so determined to stick with Mac servers ...> >> > >> Is there something you cannot do on a Linux server> >> that you can do on a Mac server? Or is it just that> >> Linux is a new and different platform that you do not> >> really want to learn? Because believe me, it's not> >> that hard ...> >> > >> When Apple refused to stand behind the last desktop> >> computer I bought from them several years ago, I> >> abandoned Apple in favor of Linux -- not only as a> >> desktop computer but also as a server. It was the> >> best decision I ever made in my life as a web> >> developer and server admin.> >> > >> Since then I have never felt that I had a good reason> >> to go back to MacOS. And I was one of the biggest> >> die-hard Mac fans you could possibly have known back> >> then, so it was NOT a simple decision for me to> >> switch!> >> > >> Yet after I made the switch I realized how much I was> >> missing in the Mac-only environment -- and how much> >> more it was costing me financially. From that point> >> on I have always felt very, very good about my> >> decision to switch.> >> > >>> Knowing that the Lion has just been set free, I would> >>> like to ask WSC on their position; what can we expect> >>> from your side...> >> > >> I'm not WSC but my guess is that your choices are> >> simple:> >> > >> 1- Write your own FastCGI module for your Lion server> >> so you can use WebDNA 7.> >> > >> 2- Keep using WebDNA 6.2 on your Lion server so you do> >> not need FastCGI.> >> > >> 3- Get a Linux server and run WebDNA 7 and future> >> versions of WebDNA on it.> >> > >> 4- Abandon WebDNA in favor of some other server side> >> scripting language that will run on your Lion server.> >> > >> 5- Retire so you don't have to reply on companies like> >> Apple or WSC to do what you want them to do any more.> >> > >> 6- Another option I have not considered ... ???> >> > >> Good luck whatever you do.> >> > >> :)> >> > >> Sincerely,> >> Kenneth Grome> >> ------------------------------------------------------> >> --- This message is sent to you because you are> >> subscribed to the mailing list .> >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > >> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us> >> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us> > > > -------------------------------------------------------> > -- This message is sent to you because you are> > subscribed to the mailing list .> > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us> > Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us> > ---------------------------------------------------------> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to> the mailing list .> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us Associated Messages, from the most recent to the oldest:

There, see Palle? Chris said that WebDNA 7 works under Apache when using the fastcgi module, so I guess you were misinformed or worried about nothing.Sincerely,Kenneth Grome> Lion as well as Snow Leopard and all other OSX versions> are using apache as web server. There is a module> fastcgi_module (mod_fastcgi.so) for all apache versions> and if it is not loaded by default on Lion, it is> certainly no difficult to load or install. So, nothing> to worry about: WebDNA.fcgi will run just as fine with> Lion as on almost all other web servers.> > - chris> > On Jul 24, 2011, at 16:30, Palle Bo Nielsen wrote:> > Hi Kenneth,> > > > Thank you for the sarcasm/irony. Besides being> > entertained by your reply I do not find it useful> > whatsoever.> > > > I have chosen to use Mac as a platform for web> > development as has many others. WSC has chosen to> > support the Mac platform as well as other platforms,> > which I appreciate.> > > > So now I just wanted to inform the community that there> > is no FCGI in Lion and at the same time ask for the> > WSC's official opinion on the challenge at hand.> > > > I rest my case and wish you a good day Kenneth, no> > matter what platform you choose. I am here to be a> > part of the community - not trying to have a war on> > platforms.> > > > Palle> > > > On 24/07/2011, at 21.16, Kenneth Grome wrote:> >>> It seems like Apple has chosen not to include FastCGI> >>> as an option in Mac OS X Lion or Mac OS X Lion> >>> Server.> >> > >> Big deal. Hardly anyone uses Mac servers any more> >> these days anyways, do they?> >> > >> Even if they do, why bother upgrading just because a> >> new version is released? If the version you're> >> currently using works fine, just keep using it!> >> > >> Or better yet, why not switch to Linux?> >> > >> The vast majority of the world's web servers run Linux> >> these days anyways. Maybe you should try it. Then> >> you won't have to worry about Apple's strange> >> decisions any more.> >> > >> I'm actually surprised that Apple is still producing> >> and marketing servers. I heard that they pulled the> >> plug on that division and were no longer producing or> >> selling server hardware or software ... but maybe> >> they just cut the server division's funding so much> >> that the dev team didn't have the resources to> >> include FastCGI.> >> > >> Apple has strangely abandoned other technologies while> >> they were still in heavy use too, so I'm not> >> surprised about this. But I fail to see why you're> >> so determined to stick with Mac servers ...> >> > >> Is there something you cannot do on a Linux server> >> that you can do on a Mac server? Or is it just that> >> Linux is a new and different platform that you do not> >> really want to learn? Because believe me, it's not> >> that hard ...> >> > >> When Apple refused to stand behind the last desktop> >> computer I bought from them several years ago, I> >> abandoned Apple in favor of Linux -- not only as a> >> desktop computer but also as a server. It was the> >> best decision I ever made in my life as a web> >> developer and server admin.> >> > >> Since then I have never felt that I had a good reason> >> to go back to MacOS. And I was one of the biggest> >> die-hard Mac fans you could possibly have known back> >> then, so it was NOT a simple decision for me to> >> switch!> >> > >> Yet after I made the switch I realized how much I was> >> missing in the Mac-only environment -- and how much> >> more it was costing me financially. From that point> >> on I have always felt very, very good about my> >> decision to switch.> >> > >>> Knowing that the Lion has just been set free, I would> >>> like to ask WSC on their position; what can we expect> >>> from your side...> >> > >> I'm not WSC but my guess is that your choices are> >> simple:> >> > >> 1- Write your own FastCGI module for your Lion server> >> so you can use WebDNA 7.> >> > >> 2- Keep using WebDNA 6.2 on your Lion server so you do> >> not need FastCGI.> >> > >> 3- Get a Linux server and run WebDNA 7 and future> >> versions of WebDNA on it.> >> > >> 4- Abandon WebDNA in favor of some other server side> >> scripting language that will run on your Lion server.> >> > >> 5- Retire so you don't have to reply on companies like> >> Apple or WSC to do what you want them to do any more.> >> > >> 6- Another option I have not considered ... ???> >> > >> Good luck whatever you do.> >> > >> :)> >> > >> Sincerely,> >> Kenneth Grome> >> ------------------------------------------------------> >> --- This message is sent to you because you are> >> subscribed to the mailing list .> >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > >> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us> >> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us> > > > -------------------------------------------------------> > -- This message is sent to you because you are> > subscribed to the mailing list .> > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us> > Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us> > ---------------------------------------------------------> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to> the mailing list .> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us Kenneth Grome

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Re: [BULK] Re: [WebDNA] [BULK] Mac OS X LION has no FastCGI

2011

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