Re: [BULK] Re: [WebDNA] [BULK] 7.x and 6.x on same server
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texte = This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------030307090608050401050607 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-6; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit sorry you are right i was thinking of multiple virtual hosts under Apachi or under a VPS. so i believe it sounds like one single side by side install is possible with V6 along with multiple V7s but not multiple V6s. this wont help me unless i only run one V6 site and recode others for V7. or one overall install of V6 over the whole server with multiple V7s running in virtual hosts under that this requires different extensions on each file. (.tpl = V6 .dna=V7 for example) this is possible though i like to use .html on all pages. so i could move over all the V6 sites, but any to run under V7 will need different extensions. not so good when using .inc and .html a lot... jym On 1/31/12 10:07 AM, Jym Duane wrote: > thank you for the clarification. > and I am thinking of the virtual servers. VPS > I had an linux with centos and apachi with webmin and virtualmin > that i was trying to head towards using to consolidate. > > i am still trying to see if i can consolidate hosting without recoding. > > on a current real linux server with centos and apachi and V6 I have: > i have some sites that use no commerce tags that could easily go under V7 > but I still also have several (not many maybe 4-5) active stores under V6 > > on another virtual server: > I also have some word press sites > (has a nice installer and updater for the word press updates) > and regular HTML sites > > On my main windows server i have my high traffic critical HTML sites > and my mail server > (so i do not run any scripted sites on that server) > > so to minimize servers i would either : > put my own sites and my mail server on one > and word press/webdna/some low traffic html sites on another. > > or > > all html sites and mail server on one and > wordpress/webdna on the other. > > trying to consolidate the wordpress > webdna 6 and future use of webdna 7 on one server setup (without > recoding for extensions or changes to V7) > is what gets me stuck. its a real puzzle. > > splitting it all up keeps same number of servers and expense so > I just end up moving a lot for nothing gained except newer machines. > > also looking at lots of little Vhosts but not sure where an > inexpensive enough place to install V6 with root access etc is. > > would be nice if the ability was there for more than one VPS install > of V6 ...dreaming... > > hmmm... > jym > > > On 1/30/12 3:12 PM, Donovan Brooke wrote: >> Jym Duane wrote: >>> ideally so that page names can be .html or .tpl or .dna under either >>> version at the same >>> time on the same server. posible if they can each be in one VPS i would >>> think. >>> not possible think if the 6.x runs at root over the whole server. >>> does anyone have them running side by side on two site s on same >>> physical server but different virtual servers? >> >> >> Hi Jym, I believe you are getting "VPS" confused with apache's >> "virtual host" system. A VPS *is* an entire (virtual) *server*. I was >> saying that there is no reason you couldn't install WebDNA for just >> one virtual *host*... other than right now WebDNA 6x creates a socket >> with a static name (if I remember right). The result is that you >> can't really install WebDNA6 twice on the same server. We had a build >> that created a unique socket in /tmp (amongst other things)... it was >> a test for the then future idea of a fastCGI build. ...not sure if >> it is still around, but with a working WebDNA 7, it's not as much >> enticing at this point.. though definitely still interesting. >> >> As it sits right now, and much like PHP.. you can optionally install >> WebDNA 6x for one host a single server only.. limiting WebDNA's reach >> to other hosts. >> >> Donovan >> > > -- > > > Jym Duane - CTO - Purpose Media > > Creating Your Success Story > > Marketing : Television - Internet - Print > > > Phone: (877) 443-1323 > > Email: jym@purposemedia.com > > Web: www.purposemedia.com > > > Oregon - www.GuideToOregon.com > > PO Box 1725,Jacksonville, OR 97530 > > > California - www.OrangeCounty.net > > PO Box 2025,Capistrano Beach, CA 92624 > > --------------------------------------------------------- This message > is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To > unsubscribe, E-mail to: archives: > http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us Bug Reporting: > support@webdna.us -- Jym Duane - CTO - Purpose Media Creating Your Success Story Marketing : Television - Internet - Print Phone: (877) 443-1323 Email: jym@purposemedia.com Web: www.purposemedia.com Oregon - www.GuideToOregon.com PO Box 1725,Jacksonville, OR 97530 California - www.OrangeCounty.net PO Box 2025,Capistrano Beach, CA 92624 --------------030307090608050401050607 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
sorry you are right i was thinking of multiple virtual hosts under Apachi or under a VPS.
so i believe it sounds like one single side by side install is possible with V6 along with multiple V7s
but not multiple V6s. this wont help me unless i only run one V6 site and recode others for V7.
or one overall install of V6 over the whole server with multiple V7s running in virtual hosts under that
this requires different extensions on each file. (.tpl =3D V6 .dna=3D= V7 for example)
this is possible though i like to use .html on all pages. so i could move over all the V6 sites,
but any to run under V7 will need different extensions. not so good when using .inc and=A0 .html a lot...
jym
On 1/31/12 10:07 AM, Jym Duane wrote:
thank you for the clarification.
and I am thinking of the virtual servers. VPS
I had an linux with centos and apachi with webmin and virtualmin that i was trying to head towards using to consolidate.
i am still trying to see if i can consolidate hosting without recoding.
on a current real linux server with centos and apachi and V6 I have:
i have some sites that use no commerce tags that could easily go under V7
but I=A0 still also have several (not many maybe 4-5) active stores under V6
on another virtual server:
I also have some word press sites
(has a nice installer and updater for the word press updates)
and regular HTML sites
On my main windows server i have my high traffic critical HTML sites
and my mail server
(so i do not run any scripted sites on that server)
so to minimize servers i would either :
put my own sites and my mail server on one
and word press/webdna/some low traffic html sites on another.
or
all html sites and mail server on one and
wordpress/webdna on the other.
trying to consolidate the wordpress
webdna 6 and future use of webdna 7 on one server setup (without recoding for extensions or changes to V7)
is what gets me stuck. its a real puzzle.
splitting it all up keeps same number of servers and expense so
I just end up moving a lot for nothing gained except newer machines.
also looking at lots of little Vhosts but not sure where an inexpensive enough place to install V6 with root access etc is.
would be nice if the ability was there for more than one VPS install of V6 ...dreaming...
hmmm...
jym
On 1/30/12 3:12 PM, Donovan Brooke wrote: Jym Duane wrote:
ideally so that page names can be .html or .tpl or .dna under either
version at the same
time on the same server. posible if they can each be in one VPS i would
think.
not possible think if the 6.x runs at root over the whole server.
does anyone have them running side by side on two site s on same
physical server but different virtual servers?
Hi Jym, I believe you are getting "VPS" confused with apache's "virtual host" system. A VPS *is* an entire (virtual) *server*. I was saying that there is no reason you couldn't install WebDNA for just one virtual *host*... other than right now WebDNA 6x creates a socket with a static name (if I remember right). The result is that you can't really install WebDNA6 twice on the same server. We had a build that created a unique socket in /tmp (amongst other things)... it was a test for the then future idea of a fastCGI build.=A0 ...not sure if it is still around, but wit= h a working WebDNA 7, it's not as much enticing at this point.. though definitely still interesting.
As it sits right now, and much like PHP.. you can optionally install WebDNA 6x for one host a single server only.. limiting WebDNA's reach to other hosts.
Donovan
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This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------030307090608050401050607 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-6; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit sorry you are right i was thinking of multiple virtual hosts under Apachi or under a VPS. so i believe it sounds like one single side by side install is possible with V6 along with multiple V7s but not multiple V6s. this wont help me unless i only run one V6 site and recode others for V7. or one overall install of V6 over the whole server with multiple V7s running in virtual hosts under that this requires different extensions on each file. (.tpl = V6 .dna=V7 for example) this is possible though i like to use .html on all pages. so i could move over all the V6 sites, but any to run under V7 will need different extensions. not so good when using .inc and .html a lot... jym On 1/31/12 10:07 AM, Jym Duane wrote: > thank you for the clarification. > and I am thinking of the virtual servers. VPS > I had an linux with centos and apachi with webmin and virtualmin > that i was trying to head towards using to consolidate. > > i am still trying to see if i can consolidate hosting without recoding. > > on a current real linux server with centos and apachi and V6 I have: > i have some sites that use no commerce tags that could easily go under V7 > but I still also have several (not many maybe 4-5) active stores under V6 > > on another virtual server: > I also have some word press sites > (has a nice installer and updater for the word press updates) > and regular HTML sites > > On my main windows server i have my high traffic critical HTML sites > and my mail server > (so i do not run any scripted sites on that server) > > so to minimize servers i would either : > put my own sites and my mail server on one > and word press/webdna/some low traffic html sites on another. > > or > > all html sites and mail server on one and > wordpress/webdna on the other. > > trying to consolidate the wordpress > webdna 6 and future use of webdna 7 on one server setup (without > recoding for extensions or changes to V7) > is what gets me stuck. its a real puzzle. > > splitting it all up keeps same number of servers and expense so > I just end up moving a lot for nothing gained except newer machines. > > also looking at lots of little Vhosts but not sure where an > inexpensive enough place to install V6 with root access etc is. > > would be nice if the ability was there for more than one VPS install > of V6 ...dreaming... > > hmmm... > jym > > > On 1/30/12 3:12 PM, Donovan Brooke wrote: >> Jym Duane wrote: >>> ideally so that page names can be .html or .tpl or .dna under either >>> version at the same >>> time on the same server. posible if they can each be in one VPS i would >>> think. >>> not possible think if the 6.x runs at root over the whole server. >>> does anyone have them running side by side on two site s on same >>> physical server but different virtual servers? >> >> >> Hi Jym, I believe you are getting "VPS" confused with apache's >> "virtual host" system. A VPS *is* an entire (virtual) *server*. I was >> saying that there is no reason you couldn't install WebDNA for just >> one virtual *host*... other than right now WebDNA 6x creates a socket >> with a static name (if I remember right). The result is that you >> can't really install WebDNA6 twice on the same server. We had a build >> that created a unique socket in /tmp (amongst other things)... it was >> a test for the then future idea of a fastCGI build. ...not sure if >> it is still around, but with a working WebDNA 7, it's not as much >> enticing at this point.. though definitely still interesting. >> >> As it sits right now, and much like PHP.. you can optionally install >> WebDNA 6x for one host a single server only.. limiting WebDNA's reach >> to other hosts. >> >> Donovan >> > > -- > > > Jym Duane - CTO - Purpose Media > > Creating Your Success Story > > Marketing : Television - Internet - Print > > > Phone: (877) 443-1323 > > Email: jym@purposemedia.com > > Web: www.purposemedia.com > > > Oregon - www.GuideToOregon.com > > PO Box 1725,Jacksonville, OR 97530 > > > California - www.OrangeCounty.net > > PO Box 2025,Capistrano Beach, CA 92624 > > --------------------------------------------------------- This message > is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To > unsubscribe, E-mail to: archives: > http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us Bug Reporting: > support@webdna.us -- Jym Duane - CTO - Purpose Media Creating Your Success Story Marketing : Television - Internet - Print Phone: (877) 443-1323 Email: jym@purposemedia.com Web: www.purposemedia.com Oregon - www.GuideToOregon.com PO Box 1725,Jacksonville, OR 97530 California - www.OrangeCounty.net PO Box 2025,Capistrano Beach, CA 92624 --------------030307090608050401050607 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
sorry you are right i was thinking of multiple virtual hosts under Apachi or under a VPS.
so i believe it sounds like one single side by side install is possible with V6 along with multiple V7s
but not multiple V6s. this wont help me unless i only run one V6 site and recode others for V7.
or one overall install of V6 over the whole server with multiple V7s running in virtual hosts under that
this requires different extensions on each file. (.tpl =3D V6 .dna=3D= V7 for example)
this is possible though i like to use .html on all pages. so i could move over all the V6 sites,
but any to run under V7 will need different extensions. not so good when using .inc and=A0 .html a lot...
jym
On 1/31/12 10:07 AM, Jym Duane wrote:
thank you for the clarification.
and I am thinking of the virtual servers. VPS
I had an linux with centos and apachi with webmin and virtualmin that i was trying to head towards using to consolidate.
i am still trying to see if i can consolidate hosting without recoding.
on a current real linux server with centos and apachi and V6 I have:
i have some sites that use no commerce tags that could easily go under V7
but I=A0 still also have several (not many maybe 4-5) active stores under V6
on another virtual server:
I also have some word press sites
(has a nice installer and updater for the word press updates)
and regular HTML sites
On my main windows server i have my high traffic critical HTML sites
and my mail server
(so i do not run any scripted sites on that server)
so to minimize servers i would either :
put my own sites and my mail server on one
and word press/webdna/some low traffic html sites on another.
or
all html sites and mail server on one and
wordpress/webdna on the other.
trying to consolidate the wordpress
webdna 6 and future use of webdna 7 on one server setup (without recoding for extensions or changes to V7)
is what gets me stuck. its a real puzzle.
splitting it all up keeps same number of servers and expense so
I just end up moving a lot for nothing gained except newer machines.
also looking at lots of little Vhosts but not sure where an inexpensive enough place to install V6 with root access etc is.
would be nice if the ability was there for more than one VPS install of V6 ...dreaming...
hmmm...
jym
On 1/30/12 3:12 PM, Donovan Brooke wrote: Jym Duane wrote:
ideally so that page names can be .html or .tpl or .dna under either
version at the same
time on the same server. posible if they can each be in one VPS i would
think.
not possible think if the 6.x runs at root over the whole server.
does anyone have them running side by side on two site s on same
physical server but different virtual servers?
Hi Jym, I believe you are getting "VPS" confused with apache's "virtual host" system. A VPS *is* an entire (virtual) *server*. I was saying that there is no reason you couldn't install WebDNA for just one virtual *host*... other than right now WebDNA 6x creates a socket with a static name (if I remember right). The result is that you can't really install WebDNA6 twice on the same server. We had a build that created a unique socket in /tmp (amongst other things)... it was a test for the then future idea of a fastCGI build.=A0 ...not sure if it is still around, but wit= h a working WebDNA 7, it's not as much enticing at this point.. though definitely still interesting.
As it sits right now, and much like PHP.. you can optionally install WebDNA 6x for one host a single server only.. limiting WebDNA's reach to other hosts.
Donovan
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