Re: [WebDNA] Re: shopping sites and the "old commerce tags"

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2012

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texte = Lots of great points made in this thread by everyone!I don't see what is wrong with this store:store.webdna.usI mean, I have no idea what is under the hood (how it was built), but it =seems to work fine.I am not one of those who is impressed just because something looks =flashy, uses ajax, etc.If it works, it works. Flashy stuff can even kill sales, for various =reasons. Simple and clear weighs more than flash.I think it comes down to what features the customers need, and how easy =it is for the developers to make that happen.I *always* find a way to hack whatever I need, in any environment, so I =never worry about any of it. =20I still write webdna because it was the language of choice for the first =(serious) coding projects I got involved with, in the 1990s. SInce then =I have branched out into several languages, because it is fun for me, =and also to be able to relate to what others do, and to assure that I =never experience fear about what I am missing. I even spent 2 years =with windows as my main OS (writing .NET), just for this reason (me, a =mac die hard ;-)The main reason I made my suggestion that someone write a new webdna =ecommerce system, was with the idea that the fear on this topic in this =small community can be alleviated... the apparent fear of "OMG, what is =going to happen to us legacy eCommercers?" =20I also really like Donovan's alternative approach to alleviate that =fear, of, "Well if it isn't broke, don't fix it..."The only thing I can personally think of that could be an issue with the =commerce tags is in case there are many many thousands of cart files in =a folder... doesn't the filesystem start to get weird at some point? =Isn't there a [listfiles] bug or [fileinfo] bug or something when there =is more than x thousand files in a folder...? =20Maybe there are other limitations inherent in using the ecommerce tags =that Ken has found while working on his clients' requirements.. (or as =he said, he just wanted to work with a ecommerce system which was based =on his own framework) ... but anyway, see the point?! : Ken has =managed (in his very creative style) *with or without the commerce tags* = just fine! Creativity more than makes up for anything else!My main point could have been expressed like this, "If someone would =just write a 'new' webdna ecommerce system then you can alleviate your =own fears, and profit (to whatever degree) as you also help others =alleviate their fears." People, the answer to fear is creativity. If =you get stuck while creating, or you do not get luck or support from the =environment, well there are side lessons to be learned... BUT (after =leaning into the creative process) you will still have so so much more =in hand than just the debilitating fear you started with!--remarks on tiny points:Bill, I am pretty sure the decision was to NOT ever do away with [cart]. = At least that one will stay, right Chris? Anyway we need a "unique =string" tag, whatever we call it.Ken, I did not mean to suggest how many copies of a new system one could =sell here. But the topic does keep coming up (and I am sure there are =more out there with this situation)... people expressing desire to use =the commerce tags with webdna 7.. and feeling nervous about their site's =future without those tags. =20Also, note: when Bill said:>> I don't want to reinvent the wheel, but if the wheel goes>> away, we're gonna need something else.>=20> You already own the wheel so how would it go away unless you=20> get rid of it yourself?... I think he just meant, '...if *WSC* ever actually drops the =ecommerce tags for good'. Not that Bill was planning to drop them, =necessarily. =20-Govinda= Associated Messages, from the most recent to the oldest:

Re: [WebDNA] shopping sites and the "old commerce tags" (Rob 2012)

Lots of great points made in this thread by everyone!I don't see what is wrong with this store:store.webdna.usI mean, I have no idea what is under the hood (how it was built), but it =seems to work fine.I am not one of those who is impressed just because something looks =flashy, uses ajax, etc.If it works, it works. Flashy stuff can even kill sales, for various =reasons. Simple and clear weighs more than flash.I think it comes down to what features the customers need, and how easy =it is for the developers to make that happen.I *always* find a way to hack whatever I need, in any environment, so I =never worry about any of it. =20I still write webdna because it was the language of choice for the first =(serious) coding projects I got involved with, in the 1990s. SInce then =I have branched out into several languages, because it is fun for me, =and also to be able to relate to what others do, and to assure that I =never experience fear about what I am missing. I even spent 2 years =with windows as my main OS (writing .NET), just for this reason (me, a =mac die hard ;-)The main reason I made my suggestion that someone write a new webdna =ecommerce system, was with the idea that the fear on this topic in this =small community can be alleviated... the apparent fear of "OMG, what is =going to happen to us legacy eCommercers?" =20I also really like Donovan's alternative approach to alleviate that =fear, of, "Well if it isn't broke, don't fix it..."The only thing I can personally think of that could be an issue with the =commerce tags is in case there are many many thousands of cart files in =a folder... doesn't the filesystem start to get weird at some point? =Isn't there a [listfiles] bug or [fileinfo] bug or something when there =is more than x thousand files in a folder...? =20Maybe there are other limitations inherent in using the ecommerce tags =that Ken has found while working on his clients' requirements.. (or as =he said, he just wanted to work with a ecommerce system which was based =on his own framework) ... but anyway, see the point?! : Ken has =managed (in his very creative style) *with or without the commerce tags* = just fine! Creativity more than makes up for anything else!My main point could have been expressed like this, "If someone would =just write a 'new' webdna ecommerce system then you can alleviate your =own fears, and profit (to whatever degree) as you also help others =alleviate their fears." People, the answer to fear is creativity. If =you get stuck while creating, or you do not get luck or support from the =environment, well there are side lessons to be learned... BUT (after =leaning into the creative process) you will still have so so much more =in hand than just the debilitating fear you started with!--remarks on tiny points:Bill, I am pretty sure the decision was to NOT ever do away with [cart]. = At least that one will stay, right Chris? Anyway we need a "unique =string" tag, whatever we call it.Ken, I did not mean to suggest how many copies of a new system one could =sell here. But the topic does keep coming up (and I am sure there are =more out there with this situation)... people expressing desire to use =the commerce tags with webdna 7.. and feeling nervous about their site's =future without those tags. =20Also, note: when Bill said:>> I don't want to reinvent the wheel, but if the wheel goes>> away, we're gonna need something else.>=20> You already own the wheel so how would it go away unless you=20> get rid of it yourself?... I think he just meant, '...if *WSC* ever actually drops the =ecommerce tags for good'. Not that Bill was planning to drop them, =necessarily. =20-Govinda= Govinda

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