Re: [WebDNA] Store module/site
This WebDNA talk-list message is from 2012
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texte = I do favor my own data center, but I cannot afford to keep paying my labor cost to keep it running. As you said, amount charged for hosting is dropping and so my margins are getting slimmer. I might own 1024 IP's but I think I'm down to 230 active IPs. Because of my love for WebDNA and the limitations of WebDNA 3, 4, 5, and 6 to be installed on a server I was always forced to keep the server room running. Shared hosting was never an option. I'm looking at this shared hosting because I will never have to worry about hardware again. We all know that WebDNA 6 and lower tends to stop working from time to time. I had to program several cron jobs to monitor my servers and send text messages to 3 of us here just so we could jump in and restart the deamon. Worrying about backups is another thing I just want to happily forget about. So I'm taking the plunge since it looks like WebDNA 7 will run inside their built in FastCGI. When WSC first announced that the Commerce Tags would no longer be supported I started to reengineer my CMS from scratch and didn't use a single one of those (then) depreciated tags. I don't have all the StoreBuilder features recreated yet, but I'm almost there. Non of my websites need dedicated servers and the need for shared Globals any more like they did years ago. I believe GoDaddy is the largest hosting company, and until they announced the 4GH you had to get one of their more expensive plans for FastCGI to be installed. The VPS and Dedicated servers don't even come with it. I have yet to start this transfer project. But if it works I'll be able to convert about $80,000 in yearly data center costs into an additional $79,100 of gross income. That in itself is enough to give this a try. -Matt On 5/4/2012 11:14 PM, Donovan Brooke wrote: > Psi Prime Inc, Matthew A Perosi wrote: >> Closing my server room is going to be bittersweet. I've been a Tier 2 >> ISP since 1997 and I currently own 1024 IP addresses. I've had WebDNA >> servers running since 1998. >> >> The cost of running the server room is low, and each replacement box is >> only about $1000 now. My hardware is far better than what GoDaddy >> offers, and the cost of a similar GoDaddy configuration for a Dedicated >> or a VPS server is about $450 per month. This is not good considering I >> have 16 production servers to replace. >> >> Instead, I'm looking at the GoDaddy 4GH. It comes with FASTCGI. I spent >> an hour on the phone with GoDaddy this morning and it sounds like the >> 4GH will work. The one thing GoDaddy doesn't mention on their website is >> that the 4GH is limited to 600 simultaneous connections. >> >> I'll be testing the 4GH this month and I'll be sure to yell for setup >> help and then report the success/failure of it all. >> >> In case anyone is wondering, I want to get this done at GoDaddy simply >> because I really like their live support, and I already have a very >> large reseller account with them. >> >> Matt > > > Hi Matt, > > I don't quite understand what the innovative qualities are of "4GH" > regarding performance/stability. Don't many cloud hypervizers share > resources of multiple machines? Isn't load balancing a technology that > has been in existence for 10+ years? What am I missing? > > It appears one of the advantages is the one click access to a bunch of > apps and some languages. I think WebDNA needs to get to a point where > we see our name in those kinds of things... cpanel, etc. That will > happen if I have any say in it. > > Anyway, I'm not trying to rip on the product, but just trying to > understand the qualities and your attraction to it. Your remarks > sounded like you favored your data center, but rather like the live > support of godaddy... so I'm confused why you are shutting your data > center down. > > The one thing I will say about these services, the price tag looks > cheap, and it seems these services keep getting cheaper. Soon they'll > be paying us to host our sites, eh? > > Donovan > > > > > > -- > Matthew A Perosi > Corporate Consultant > Mobile Marketing Expert > Senior Web Developer > SEO Analyst& Educator > > Psi Prime, Inc. > 323 Union Blvd. > Totowa, NJ 07512 > > Service: 973.413.8211 > Training: 973.413.8214 > Fax: 973.413.8217 > > http://www.perosi.com
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I do favor my own data center, but I cannot afford to keep paying my labor cost to keep it running. As you said, amount charged for hosting is dropping and so my margins are getting slimmer. I might own 1024 IP's but I think I'm down to 230 active IPs. Because of my love for WebDNA and the limitations of WebDNA 3, 4, 5, and 6 to be installed on a server I was always forced to keep the server room running. Shared hosting was never an option. I'm looking at this shared hosting because I will never have to worry about hardware again. We all know that WebDNA 6 and lower tends to stop working from time to time. I had to program several cron jobs to monitor my servers and send text messages to 3 of us here just so we could jump in and restart the deamon. Worrying about backups is another thing I just want to happily forget about. So I'm taking the plunge since it looks like WebDNA 7 will run inside their built in FastCGI. When WSC first announced that the Commerce Tags would no longer be supported I started to reengineer my CMS from scratch and didn't use a single one of those (then) depreciated tags. I don't have all the StoreBuilder features recreated yet, but I'm almost there. Non of my websites need dedicated servers and the need for shared Globals any more like they did years ago. I believe GoDaddy is the largest hosting company, and until they announced the 4GH you had to get one of their more expensive plans for FastCGI to be installed. The VPS and Dedicated servers don't even come with it. I have yet to start this transfer project. But if it works I'll be able to convert about $80,000 in yearly data center costs into an additional $79,100 of gross income. That in itself is enough to give this a try. -Matt On 5/4/2012 11:14 PM, Donovan Brooke wrote: > Psi Prime Inc, Matthew A Perosi wrote: >> Closing my server room is going to be bittersweet. I've been a Tier 2 >> ISP since 1997 and I currently own 1024 IP addresses. I've had WebDNA >> servers running since 1998. >> >> The cost of running the server room is low, and each replacement box is >> only about $1000 now. My hardware is far better than what GoDaddy >> offers, and the cost of a similar GoDaddy configuration for a Dedicated >> or a VPS server is about $450 per month. This is not good considering I >> have 16 production servers to replace. >> >> Instead, I'm looking at the GoDaddy 4GH. It comes with FASTCGI. I spent >> an hour on the phone with GoDaddy this morning and it sounds like the >> 4GH will work. The one thing GoDaddy doesn't mention on their website is >> that the 4GH is limited to 600 simultaneous connections. >> >> I'll be testing the 4GH this month and I'll be sure to yell for setup >> help and then report the success/failure of it all. >> >> In case anyone is wondering, I want to get this done at GoDaddy simply >> because I really like their live support, and I already have a very >> large reseller account with them. >> >> Matt > > > Hi Matt, > > I don't quite understand what the innovative qualities are of "4GH" > regarding performance/stability. Don't many cloud hypervizers share > resources of multiple machines? Isn't load balancing a technology that > has been in existence for 10+ years? What am I missing? > > It appears one of the advantages is the one click access to a bunch of > apps and some languages. I think WebDNA needs to get to a point where > we see our name in those kinds of things... cpanel, etc. That will > happen if I have any say in it. > > Anyway, I'm not trying to rip on the product, but just trying to > understand the qualities and your attraction to it. Your remarks > sounded like you favored your data center, but rather like the live > support of godaddy... so I'm confused why you are shutting your data > center down. > > The one thing I will say about these services, the price tag looks > cheap, and it seems these services keep getting cheaper. Soon they'll > be paying us to host our sites, eh? > > Donovan > > > > > > -- > Matthew A Perosi > Corporate Consultant > Mobile Marketing Expert > Senior Web Developer > SEO Analyst& Educator > > Psi Prime, Inc. > 323 Union Blvd. > Totowa, NJ 07512 > > Service: 973.413.8211 > Training: 973.413.8214 > Fax: 973.413.8217 > > http://www.perosi.com
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