Re: [BULK] Re: [WebDNA] [BULK] looking for the holy grail of hosting still

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texte = I really like linode.com - $20 a month/ $5 extra for backups - setup = postfix for mail - and all the cloud features You can pick whatever flavor of Linux you like. This was great for me = setting up a VPS with 6.2 since I could provision with a distro I knew = was supported in the original release. I went with Ubuntu, and a much = older version (8.04 I think) - but hey, all I had to do was run a couple = apt-get commands, run the WebDNA installer, and I was in business! =20 I think that if WebDNA 7 could be configured all through a .htaccess = file, then theoretically you could use all kinds of generic non-VPS = hosts. I actually did this on an Ubuntu server with .htaccess config. = WebDNA rendered just fine but I was having problems with multiple = instances of the fcgi process being created. =20 On Jan 22, 2013, at 1:24 PM, Jym Duane wrote: > thanks > sounds pretty promising. >=20 > i had started down this road vps- centos-apache- webmin (virtualmin) = with a local host last in 2011. > you can set up configurations in virtualmin that will preconfigure the = sites as you set up . > so one click for a new site. that was desired direction, i was = thinking version 7 but that was when tags etc were being depreciated. > just to get sites moved to less expense v6x would be good for now. >=20 > in long run a v7 one click set up for new site is still the holy grail = in my mind. > especially if that could even be done in a hosting account without = even a vps. >=20 > jym >=20 >=20 >=20 > On 1/22/2013 9:38 AM, Psi Prime Inc, Matthew A Perosi wrote: >> GoDaddy is using a mix of CentOS 6.2 and CentOS 6.3 for their VPS = right now, it seems to depend on what server they put you on. >> You won't know if you have 6.2 or 6.3 until they configure the box = for you. >>=20 >> Only the beta build and pre-gold build for WebDNA 6.x work with = GoDaddy right now. >> It took quite a long time to get them to work and I appreciate the = back and forth that the WebDNA team did to make it work. >>=20 >> GoDaddy uses Apache too. I first tried getting it to work with = cPanel, but that was a total nightmare for me. I've been using Webmin = since Y2K so I switched to that, saved money, and was much happier. >>=20 >> Once GoDaddy sets up the VPS for you it's a bare box web server. You = can do anything with it. I used putty to log in and configured WebDNA = using the install directions in the readme.txt files. >>=20 >> SSLs are easy to install through Webmin, and IP addresses are = provisioned from GoDaddy whenever you request them. >>=20 >> The only thing that drove me nuts for a while was realizing that = ImageMagick is not installed on GoDaddy VPS by default. >>=20 >> -Matt >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> On 1/22/2013 11:26 AM, Jym Duane wrote: >>> sounds great i do have a go daddy account and can set up a vps. >>> i use 6x now have 6x licence and thus would not need to change code. >>>=20 >>> i only have a few sites to move initially. >>> four will need own ip and ssl cert. >>> i use centos now and apache is that the config on go daddy? >>> or do you do install of os etc how you wish. >>>=20 >>> unrelated directly i dont have to move email initially but need to = replace some perl forms and a few dns records from the same server in = order retire it. >>> i have already found services for both of those. >>> anything you could help in steps on or off list would be = appreciated. >>> i have an off site incremental backup to my office. >>> jym >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> On 1/22/2013 3:41 AM, Psi Prime Inc, Matthew A Perosi wrote: >>>> I've successfully installed the current pre-gold version of WebDNA = 6.x on a GoDaddy VPS. I have 3 servers running since October, and they = are working solid. >>>>=20 >>>> I'm using the Economy VPS that GoDaddy offers which is about = $30/month for 40GB HD and 1GB RAM. I haven't pushed the limits of what = the server could do yet, but of course that's always a function of = programming finesse and database design. >>>>=20 >>>> The setup was no more difficult than setting up servers in my own = data center, but the steps were slightly different. I'm using Webmin = instead of cPanel. Since I have 3 production machines with more on the = way, for me it made more sense to pay for an extra VPS to use as my = backup server. I use the built in features of Webmin to archive my = websites to my 4th server every day instead of paying GoDaddy for their = backup service. >>>>=20 >>>> When the new version of WebDNA 6.x is released I'll be setting up = several more and I expected to fully document the process for WSC and = the community here. >>>>=20 >>>> As for emails... When it comes to GoDaddy, you could set up their = email plan for any domain name. You could set up a VPS, host a domain = on the VPS, then use the GoDaddy email service plan. This is much = easier than trying to manage emails on the VPS where you would have to = deal with anti-spam and anti-virus issues. It might be less expensive = to host emails on your own VPS, but it's certainly not savings of time. >>>>=20 >>>> -Matthew Perosi >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> On 1/21/2013 8:33 PM, Jym Duane wrote: >>>>> has anyone have a successful complete setup procedure for hosting = V7 with one of the big hosting companies in their inexpensive cloud = hosting environments. >>>>>=20 >>>>> godaddy >>>>> enom >>>>> network solutions >>>>>=20 >>>>> hostgator >>>>> 1and1 >>>>> bigrock >>>>>=20 >>>>> or is webdna available as an install with anyone other than amazon >>>>> (which seems complex even for a techie like me) >>>>>=20 >>>>> still looking for simple and cheep way to move some sites >>>>> currently hosted on own server >>>>> to a hosting where ram and size can be adjusted or is unlimited = for future. >>>>> also that has backups. >>>>> and has email service >>>>>=20 >>>>> jym >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>> --=20 >>>>> Matthew A Perosi >>>>> Corporate Consultant >>>>> Mobile Marketing Expert >>>>> Senior Web Developer >>>>> SEO Analyst & Educator >>>>>=20 >>>>> Psi Prime, Inc. >>>>> 323 Union Blvd. >>>>> Totowa, NJ 07512 >>>>>=20 >>>>> Direct: 888.872.0274 >>>>> Fax: 888.488.5924 >>>>>=20 >>>>> http://www.perosi.com >>>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>> the mailing list . >>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >>>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >>>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> --=20 >>> Matthew A Perosi >>> Corporate Consultant >>> Mobile Marketing Expert >>> Senior Web Developer >>> SEO Analyst & Educator >>>=20 >>> Psi Prime, Inc. >>> 323 Union Blvd. >>> Totowa, NJ 07512 >>>=20 >>> Direct: 888.872.0274 >>> Fax: 888.488.5924 >>>=20 >>> http://www.perosi.com >> --------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >>=20 >=20 > --=20 > Jym Duane - CTO - Purpose Media > Creating Your Success Story > Marketing : Television - Internet -Print > Phone: (877) 443-1323 > Email: jym@purposemedia.com > Web: www.purposemedia.com >=20 > Oregon - www.GuideToOregon.com > PO Box 1725, Jacksonville, OR 97530 >=20 > California - www.OrangeCounty.net > PO Box 2025, Capistrano Beach, CA 92624 >=20 >=20 > --------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us > Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us Associated Messages, from the most recent to the oldest:

    
I really like linode.com - $20 a month/ $5 extra for backups - setup = postfix for mail - and all the cloud features You can pick whatever flavor of Linux you like. This was great for me = setting up a VPS with 6.2 since I could provision with a distro I knew = was supported in the original release. I went with Ubuntu, and a much = older version (8.04 I think) - but hey, all I had to do was run a couple = apt-get commands, run the WebDNA installer, and I was in business! =20 I think that if WebDNA 7 could be configured all through a .htaccess = file, then theoretically you could use all kinds of generic non-VPS = hosts. I actually did this on an Ubuntu server with .htaccess config. = WebDNA rendered just fine but I was having problems with multiple = instances of the fcgi process being created. =20 On Jan 22, 2013, at 1:24 PM, Jym Duane wrote: > thanks > sounds pretty promising. >=20 > i had started down this road vps- centos-apache- webmin (virtualmin) = with a local host last in 2011. > you can set up configurations in virtualmin that will preconfigure the = sites as you set up . > so one click for a new site. that was desired direction, i was = thinking version 7 but that was when tags etc were being depreciated. > just to get sites moved to less expense v6x would be good for now. >=20 > in long run a v7 one click set up for new site is still the holy grail = in my mind. > especially if that could even be done in a hosting account without = even a vps. >=20 > jym >=20 >=20 >=20 > On 1/22/2013 9:38 AM, Psi Prime Inc, Matthew A Perosi wrote: >> GoDaddy is using a mix of CentOS 6.2 and CentOS 6.3 for their VPS = right now, it seems to depend on what server they put you on. >> You won't know if you have 6.2 or 6.3 until they configure the box = for you. >>=20 >> Only the beta build and pre-gold build for WebDNA 6.x work with = GoDaddy right now. >> It took quite a long time to get them to work and I appreciate the = back and forth that the WebDNA team did to make it work. >>=20 >> GoDaddy uses Apache too. I first tried getting it to work with = cPanel, but that was a total nightmare for me. I've been using Webmin = since Y2K so I switched to that, saved money, and was much happier. >>=20 >> Once GoDaddy sets up the VPS for you it's a bare box web server. You = can do anything with it. I used putty to log in and configured WebDNA = using the install directions in the readme.txt files. >>=20 >> SSLs are easy to install through Webmin, and IP addresses are = provisioned from GoDaddy whenever you request them. >>=20 >> The only thing that drove me nuts for a while was realizing that = ImageMagick is not installed on GoDaddy VPS by default. >>=20 >> -Matt >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> On 1/22/2013 11:26 AM, Jym Duane wrote: >>> sounds great i do have a go daddy account and can set up a vps. >>> i use 6x now have 6x licence and thus would not need to change code. >>>=20 >>> i only have a few sites to move initially. >>> four will need own ip and ssl cert. >>> i use centos now and apache is that the config on go daddy? >>> or do you do install of os etc how you wish. >>>=20 >>> unrelated directly i dont have to move email initially but need to = replace some perl forms and a few dns records from the same server in = order retire it. >>> i have already found services for both of those. >>> anything you could help in steps on or off list would be = appreciated. >>> i have an off site incremental backup to my office. >>> jym >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> On 1/22/2013 3:41 AM, Psi Prime Inc, Matthew A Perosi wrote: >>>> I've successfully installed the current pre-gold version of WebDNA = 6.x on a GoDaddy VPS. I have 3 servers running since October, and they = are working solid. >>>>=20 >>>> I'm using the Economy VPS that GoDaddy offers which is about = $30/month for 40GB HD and 1GB RAM. I haven't pushed the limits of what = the server could do yet, but of course that's always a function of = programming finesse and database design. >>>>=20 >>>> The setup was no more difficult than setting up servers in my own = data center, but the steps were slightly different. I'm using Webmin = instead of cPanel. Since I have 3 production machines with more on the = way, for me it made more sense to pay for an extra VPS to use as my = backup server. I use the built in features of Webmin to archive my = websites to my 4th server every day instead of paying GoDaddy for their = backup service. >>>>=20 >>>> When the new version of WebDNA 6.x is released I'll be setting up = several more and I expected to fully document the process for WSC and = the community here. >>>>=20 >>>> As for emails... When it comes to GoDaddy, you could set up their = email plan for any domain name. You could set up a VPS, host a domain = on the VPS, then use the GoDaddy email service plan. This is much = easier than trying to manage emails on the VPS where you would have to = deal with anti-spam and anti-virus issues. It might be less expensive = to host emails on your own VPS, but it's certainly not savings of time. >>>>=20 >>>> -Matthew Perosi >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> On 1/21/2013 8:33 PM, Jym Duane wrote: >>>>> has anyone have a successful complete setup procedure for hosting = V7 with one of the big hosting companies in their inexpensive cloud = hosting environments. >>>>>=20 >>>>> godaddy >>>>> enom >>>>> network solutions >>>>>=20 >>>>> hostgator >>>>> 1and1 >>>>> bigrock >>>>>=20 >>>>> or is webdna available as an install with anyone other than amazon >>>>> (which seems complex even for a techie like me) >>>>>=20 >>>>> still looking for simple and cheep way to move some sites >>>>> currently hosted on own server >>>>> to a hosting where ram and size can be adjusted or is unlimited = for future. >>>>> also that has backups. >>>>> and has email service >>>>>=20 >>>>> jym >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>> --=20 >>>>> Matthew A Perosi >>>>> Corporate Consultant >>>>> Mobile Marketing Expert >>>>> Senior Web Developer >>>>> SEO Analyst & Educator >>>>>=20 >>>>> Psi Prime, Inc. >>>>> 323 Union Blvd. >>>>> Totowa, NJ 07512 >>>>>=20 >>>>> Direct: 888.872.0274 >>>>> Fax: 888.488.5924 >>>>>=20 >>>>> http://www.perosi.com >>>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>> the mailing list . >>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >>>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >>>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> --=20 >>> Matthew A Perosi >>> Corporate Consultant >>> Mobile Marketing Expert >>> Senior Web Developer >>> SEO Analyst & Educator >>>=20 >>> Psi Prime, Inc. >>> 323 Union Blvd. >>> Totowa, NJ 07512 >>>=20 >>> Direct: 888.872.0274 >>> Fax: 888.488.5924 >>>=20 >>> http://www.perosi.com >> --------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >>=20 >=20 > --=20 > Jym Duane - CTO - Purpose Media > Creating Your Success Story > Marketing : Television - Internet -Print > Phone: (877) 443-1323 > Email: jym@purposemedia.com > Web: www.purposemedia.com >=20 > Oregon - www.GuideToOregon.com > PO Box 1725, Jacksonville, OR 97530 >=20 > California - www.OrangeCounty.net > PO Box 2025, Capistrano Beach, CA 92624 >=20 >=20 > --------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us > Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us aaronmichaelmusic@gmail.com

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