Hi Lawrence!=div>
there is a mix between your last =WebDNA server version (CICADA 6.x) and the FastCGI version. The fastCGI =version does not have any .tpl file in its administration.
The =best would be to remove entirely CICADA and the fastCGI and then =reinstall the fastCGI following our ReadMe file or Palle's =instructions.
- chris
On Mar 2, 2013, at 1:49, Banahan =<banahan.l@gmail.com> =wrote:Hi Chris---------------------------------------------------------
I went through =the lion instructions and I get the following?
Not Found
The =requested URL /WebDNA/WebDNA.fcgi/index.tpl was not found on this =server.
Maybe I didn't uninstall all the files from Cicada, what =should be removed from Cicada?
I make this try with the website =in the webserver Document folder.
But I have my websites on a =separate disk, I also tried with changing the path to that hard drive, I =had the same result.
What is best to =do...
Thanks
Lawrence
--
Lawrence =Banahan
Mobile: 06.80.71.99.02
Skype: lbanahan
christophe.billiottet@webd=na.us a =E9crit :No, httpd.conf is =different between 10.6 and 10.8. Do not upload your 10.6 httpd.conf to a =10.8 box, it would make a mess with the new apache configuration. What =you have to do on a 10.8 is------------------------------------=--------------------- This message is sent to you because you are =subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: archives: http://mail.webdna.us/l=ist/talk@webdna.us Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us
- just upload mod_fastcgi.so (we have =a copy if you need it) in /usr/libexec/apache2/ with the same UID:GID =and permissions as the other modules you will find inside this =directory
and if it is a new install, just follow the =instructions (Lion and Mountain Lion have the same procedure) in the =ReadMe file that comes with the FastCGI. I did this several times so far =(regular 10.8 and 10.8 server) without any problem, it just takes few =minutes to do.
- chris
On Feb 28, 2013, at 10:32, =Banahan
<banahan.l@gmail.com>
=wrote:Using the Webdna 7 on 10.6, =so this means we just need to upload the =httpd.conf?
Lawrence
christophe.billiottet@webd=na.us
a =E9crit :On my side, i =was using 10.6 and directly upgraded to 10.8. The only thing i had to do =to make my WeDNA.fcgi run back has been to add the mod_fastcgi.so (which =had been removed by Apple since 10.7). It was straight and easy to =do.--------------------------------=------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are =subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: archives: =http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us Bug Reporting: =support@webdna.us
- chris
On Feb 28, 2013, at 4:40, Tom Duke =
<tom@revolutionaries.ie>
=wrote:Lawrence,----------------------------------------=-----------------
Hi - it =is possible. I installed v.7 on my MacBook Pro - then =removed it and installed v6.2 so I could have a development environment =to match our production server.
My notes are rough - I never got =a chance to write them up properly - the main issue initially was to =re-enable to web server in Lion. Apple have left the =software in place but have essentially deactivated the web =server.
Happy to share my notes if you would like them.
- =Tom
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D==3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D==3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
Digital Revolutionaries
1st Floor, Castleriver =House
14-15 Parliament Street
Temple Bar,Dublin =2
Ireland
----------------------------------------------
[t]: =++ 353 1 440 3907
[e]: =
<mailto:tom@revolutionaries.ie>
[w]: =
<http://www.revolutionaries.ie/>
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D==3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D==3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
On 27 February =2013 22:11, Banahan
<banahan.l@gmail.com>
=wrote:
Hi,
I'm trying to setup a new server on Mac OSX.
As =I bought a MacMini it comes with Montain Lion (not server)
I tried to =set it up with the above details, but it's not working...
I'm wonder =if some body did an install of Webdna on a non server 10.8
I'm =now considering getting the MacMini to 10.6 as it looks like a lot =faster to install (My server should already be running...)
What's you =opinion? What is the benefit of using 10.8 ou 10.7 compared to =10.6
Thanks in advance fot your tips
Lawrence
-- =
Lawrence Banahan
Mobile: 06.80.71.99.02
Skype: =lbanahan
Courriel: =
lawrence@banahan.fr
www.banahan.fr
Brian= Wachter a =E9crit :Steve,---=------------------------------------------------------ This message is =sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To =unsubscribe, E-mail to: archives: =http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us Bug Reporting: =support@webdna.us
I'm not sure this is a DEFINITIVE guide, but =it may help. I started with the WebDNA 7 installation instructions and =updated them for LION SERVER and MOUNTAIN LION SERVER specific =instructions. I'll attach the text file as well as include the text =below. Best of luck with your install and keep us =posted!
Regards,
Brian
#---------------------------------=--------------------------------------------------------------------------=-
Here's the WebDNA 7 FastCGI installation process for OSX Lion =SERVER and Mountain Lion SERVER:
STEP 1:
Install JAVA for OS X =Lion
More information at: =
http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1421 and =http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5267
To test if Java is =installed, open Terminal.app and type "java".
To check which version =of Java is installed, open Terminal.app and type "java =-version".
STEP 2:
Install mod_fastcgi.so
Lion/MtnLion is =missing mod_fastcgi.so
It can be recovered from Snow Leopard
Put a =copy of mod_fastcgi.so at /usr/libexec/apache2/
Set permissions on =mod_fastcgi.so to be the same as other .so files in that =directory.
(i.e., system=3Dread/write,wheel=3Dreadonly,everyone=3Dreado=nly)
STEP 3:
For EACH web site domain (i.e., vhost), place a =copy of the /WebDNA folder =here:
/Library/Server/Web/Data/Sites/<myDomainDirectory>/
=STEP 4:
Move a copy of WebDNA.fcgi executable inside each of the =/WebDNA folders
chmod 755 WebDNA.fcgi
STEP 5:
Then open =your primary apache2 configuration file and make sure that both =the
rewrite and fastcgi modules are loaded. The mod_rewrite.so should =be loaded by default,
but you will need to add the entry for loading =mod_fastcgi.so
For OS X Lion SERVER (10.7), the file to edit is: =/private/etc/apache2/httpd.conf
For OS X Mtn Lion SERVER (10.8), the =file to edit is: =/Library/Server/Web/Config/apache2/httpd_server_app.conf
LoadModule= rewrite_module = libexec/apache2/mod_rewrite.so
LoadModule =fastcgi_module = libexec/apache2/mod_fastcgi.so
STEP =6:
- edit httpd_server_app.conf (10.8) or httpd.conf (10.7) to add =the following =lines...
<#-----------------------
<IfModule =mod_fastcgi.c>
FastCGIServer =/Library/Server/Web/Data/Sites/<myDomainDirectory1>/WebDNA/WebDNA.fc=gi -idle-timeout 60 -processes 1
FastCGIServer =/Library/Server/Web/Data/Sites/<myDomainDirectory2>/WebDNA/WebDNA.fc=gi -idle-timeout 60 -processes 1
FastCGIServer =/Library/Server/Web/Data/Sites/<myDomainDirectory3>/WebDNA/WebDNA.fc=gi -idle-timeout 60 -processes 1
Action webdna-fastcgi =/WebDNA/WebDNA.fcgi
AddHandler webdna-fastcgi =.dna
</IfModule>
#-----------------------
Note it is =very important to use "-processes 1" because if a website open several =instances
accessing the same databases, there will be conflicts. Also =be sure to add an entry for each
WebDNA-enabled vhost web site that =you have.
Notes for Lion Server (10.7)
I added =the fastcgi directive lines just below the following directive:
=<IfDefine WEBSHARING_ON>
# Multi = -language error messages
#Include =/private/etc/apache2/extra/httpd-multilang-errordoc.conf
=...
=#Include /private/etc/apache2/extra/httpd-dav.conf
=</IfDefine>
Be careful that OSX Lion Server =will disable what you have done if WebSharing is not "on":
it will =place your configuration within
<IfDefine =WEBSHARING_ON>
</IfDefine>
and the =configuration settings are completely ineffective.
So, turn =it "on" by opening the System Settings, then opening the "Sharing" =control panel
=and checking the box for "Web Sharing".
Notes for =Mountain Lion Server (10.8)
I added the fastcgi directive =lines just below the following directive:
=<IfModule mime_module>
</IfModule>
STEP =7:
To hide some specific WebDNA-related files, add these lines in the =httpd.conf or
httpd_server_app.conf, just below the lines you added =in STEP 6.
#-----------------------
<FilesMatch = ".*\.(db|inc|conf|ini)$">
Deny from all = &n=bsp; &nbs=p; = &n=bsp; &nbs=p;
</FilesMatch>
#-----------------------
STEP =8:
Finally, if you want the WebDNA [protect] context to properly =work, you will need the
following lines INSIDE the virtualhost =configuration file, for every single site on your server.
Open each =virtualhost config file and add the following =lines:
#-----------------------
<IfModule =mod_rewrite.c>
RewriteEngine on
RewriteRule .* - =[E=3DHTTP_AUTHORIZATION:%{
HTTP:Authorization
},L]</IfModule>
#-----------------------
For Lion Server =(10.7), the configuration files are located =here:
/etc/apache2/sites/0000_X.X.X.X_80_<myDomain>.conf =(non-ssl =domains)
/etc/apache2/sites/0000_X.X.X.X_443_<myDomain>.conf =(ssl domains)
For Mountain Lion Server (10.8), the configuration =files are located =here:
/Library/Server/Web/Config/apache2/sites/0000_X.X.X.X_80_<myDo=main>.conf (non-ssl =domains)
/Library/Server/Web/Config/apache2/sites/0000_X.X.X.X_443_<=myDomain>.conf (ssl domains)
in the following file for non-SSL =vhosts:
STEP 9:
Make sure that you add index.dna as a =default index type for each WebDNA-enabled site you host.
Do this in =Lion & Mtn Lion SERVER by opening Server.app, selecting Web (10.7) =or Websites (10.8)
under SERVICES in the left-side pane, select your =domain to edit and then select the "edit" button
next to "Index =Files:". In the drop-down sheet, select + and add "index.dna" to the =list.
STEP 10:
Restart apache (there is no need to start =WebDNA, it is automatically done with the first
WebDNA request apache =receives. This is also the reason why we do not need anymore =the
WebDNAMonitor from the previous versions) either =with
apachectl restart
or using your administration =GUI.
STEP 11:
Connect your browser to =
http://www.domain1.com/WebDNA/Admin/AdminPrefs.dna
= to manage =site1,
http://www.domain2.com/WebDNA/Admin/AdminPrefs.dna
to manage site2 etc...
login and pass =admin/admin
If your login fails, verify that STEP 8 has been done =and try again.
That should do =it.
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Hi Lawrence!=div>
there is a mix between your last =WebDNA server version (CICADA 6.x) and the FastCGI version. The fastCGI =version does not have any .tpl file in its administration.
The =best would be to remove entirely CICADA and the fastCGI and then =reinstall the fastCGI following our ReadMe file or Palle's =instructions.
- chris
On Mar 2, 2013, at 1:49, Banahan =<banahan.l@gmail.com> =wrote:Hi Chris---------------------------------------------------------
I went through =the lion instructions and I get the following?
Not Found
The =requested URL /WebDNA/WebDNA.fcgi/index.tpl was not found on this =server.
Maybe I didn't uninstall all the files from Cicada, what =should be removed from Cicada?
I make this try with the website =in the webserver Document folder.
But I have my websites on a =separate disk, I also tried with changing the path to that hard drive, I =had the same result.
What is best to =do...
Thanks
Lawrence
--
Lawrence =Banahan
Mobile: 06.80.71.99.02
Skype: lbanahan
christophe.billiottet@webd=na.us a =E9crit :No, httpd.conf is =different between 10.6 and 10.8. Do not upload your 10.6 httpd.conf to a =10.8 box, it would make a mess with the new apache configuration. What =you have to do on a 10.8 is------------------------------------=--------------------- This message is sent to you because you are =subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: archives: http://mail.webdna.us/l=ist/talk@webdna.us Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us
- just upload mod_fastcgi.so (we have =a copy if you need it) in /usr/libexec/apache2/ with the same UID:GID =and permissions as the other modules you will find inside this =directory
and if it is a new install, just follow the =instructions (Lion and Mountain Lion have the same procedure) in the =ReadMe file that comes with the FastCGI. I did this several times so far =(regular 10.8 and 10.8 server) without any problem, it just takes few =minutes to do.
- chris
On Feb 28, 2013, at 10:32, =Banahan
<banahan.l@gmail.com>
=wrote:Using the Webdna 7 on 10.6, =so this means we just need to upload the =httpd.conf?
Lawrence
christophe.billiottet@webd=na.us
a =E9crit :On my side, i =was using 10.6 and directly upgraded to 10.8. The only thing i had to do =to make my WeDNA.fcgi run back has been to add the mod_fastcgi.so (which =had been removed by Apple since 10.7). It was straight and easy to =do.--------------------------------=------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are =subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: archives: =http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us Bug Reporting: =support@webdna.us
- chris
On Feb 28, 2013, at 4:40, Tom Duke =
<tom@revolutionaries.ie>
=wrote:Lawrence,----------------------------------------=-----------------
Hi - it =is possible. I installed v.7 on my MacBook Pro - then =removed it and installed v6.2 so I could have a development environment =to match our production server.
My notes are rough - I never got =a chance to write them up properly - the main issue initially was to =re-enable to web server in Lion. Apple have left the =software in place but have essentially deactivated the web =server.
Happy to share my notes if you would like them.
- =Tom
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D==3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D==3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
Digital Revolutionaries
1st Floor, Castleriver =House
14-15 Parliament Street
Temple Bar,Dublin =2
Ireland
----------------------------------------------
[t]: =++ 353 1 440 3907
[e]: =
<mailto:tom@revolutionaries.ie>
[w]: =
<http://www.revolutionaries.ie/>
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D==3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D==3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
On 27 February =2013 22:11, Banahan
<banahan.l@gmail.com>
=wrote:
Hi,
I'm trying to setup a new server on Mac OSX.
As =I bought a MacMini it comes with Montain Lion (not server)
I tried to =set it up with the above details, but it's not working...
I'm wonder =if some body did an install of Webdna on a non server 10.8
I'm =now considering getting the MacMini to 10.6 as it looks like a lot =faster to install (My server should already be running...)
What's you =opinion? What is the benefit of using 10.8 ou 10.7 compared to =10.6
Thanks in advance fot your tips
Lawrence
-- =
Lawrence Banahan
Mobile: 06.80.71.99.02
Skype: =lbanahan
Courriel: =
lawrence@banahan.fr
www.banahan.fr
Brian= Wachter a =E9crit :Steve,---=------------------------------------------------------ This message is =sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To =unsubscribe, E-mail to: archives: =http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us Bug Reporting: =support@webdna.us
I'm not sure this is a DEFINITIVE guide, but =it may help. I started with the WebDNA 7 installation instructions and =updated them for LION SERVER and MOUNTAIN LION SERVER specific =instructions. I'll attach the text file as well as include the text =below. Best of luck with your install and keep us =posted!
Regards,
Brian
#---------------------------------=--------------------------------------------------------------------------=-
Here's the WebDNA 7 FastCGI installation process for OSX Lion =SERVER and Mountain Lion SERVER:
STEP 1:
Install JAVA for OS X =Lion
More information at: =
http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1421 and =http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5267
To test if Java is =installed, open Terminal.app and type "java".
To check which version =of Java is installed, open Terminal.app and type "java =-version".
STEP 2:
Install mod_fastcgi.so
Lion/MtnLion is =missing mod_fastcgi.so
It can be recovered from Snow Leopard
Put a =copy of mod_fastcgi.so at /usr/libexec/apache2/
Set permissions on =mod_fastcgi.so to be the same as other .so files in that =directory.
(i.e., system=3Dread/write,wheel=3Dreadonly,everyone=3Dreado=nly)
STEP 3:
For EACH web site domain (i.e., vhost), place a =copy of the /WebDNA folder =here:
/Library/Server/Web/Data/Sites/<myDomainDirectory>/
=STEP 4:
Move a copy of WebDNA.fcgi executable inside each of the =/WebDNA folders
chmod 755 WebDNA.fcgi
STEP 5:
Then open =your primary apache2 configuration file and make sure that both =the
rewrite and fastcgi modules are loaded. The mod_rewrite.so should =be loaded by default,
but you will need to add the entry for loading =mod_fastcgi.so
For OS X Lion SERVER (10.7), the file to edit is: =/private/etc/apache2/httpd.conf
For OS X Mtn Lion SERVER (10.8), the =file to edit is: =/Library/Server/Web/Config/apache2/httpd_server_app.conf
LoadModule= rewrite_module = libexec/apache2/mod_rewrite.so
LoadModule =fastcgi_module = libexec/apache2/mod_fastcgi.so
STEP =6:
- edit httpd_server_app.conf (10.8) or httpd.conf (10.7) to add =the following =lines...
<#-----------------------
<IfModule =mod_fastcgi.c>
FastCGIServer =/Library/Server/Web/Data/Sites/<myDomainDirectory1>/WebDNA/WebDNA.fc=gi -idle-timeout 60 -processes 1
FastCGIServer =/Library/Server/Web/Data/Sites/<myDomainDirectory2>/WebDNA/WebDNA.fc=gi -idle-timeout 60 -processes 1
FastCGIServer =/Library/Server/Web/Data/Sites/<myDomainDirectory3>/WebDNA/WebDNA.fc=gi -idle-timeout 60 -processes 1
Action webdna-fastcgi =/WebDNA/WebDNA.fcgi
AddHandler webdna-fastcgi =.dna
</IfModule>
#-----------------------
Note it is =very important to use "-processes 1" because if a website open several =instances
accessing the same databases, there will be conflicts. Also =be sure to add an entry for each
WebDNA-enabled vhost web site that =you have.
Notes for Lion Server (10.7)
I added =the fastcgi directive lines just below the following directive:
=<IfDefine WEBSHARING_ON>
# Multi = -language error messages
#Include =/private/etc/apache2/extra/httpd-multilang-errordoc.conf
=...
=#Include /private/etc/apache2/extra/httpd-dav.conf
=</IfDefine>
Be careful that OSX Lion Server =will disable what you have done if WebSharing is not "on":
it will =place your configuration within
<IfDefine =WEBSHARING_ON>
</IfDefine>
and the =configuration settings are completely ineffective.
So, turn =it "on" by opening the System Settings, then opening the "Sharing" =control panel
=and checking the box for "Web Sharing".
Notes for =Mountain Lion Server (10.8)
I added the fastcgi directive =lines just below the following directive:
=<IfModule mime_module>
</IfModule>
STEP =7:
To hide some specific WebDNA-related files, add these lines in the =httpd.conf or
httpd_server_app.conf, just below the lines you added =in STEP 6.
#-----------------------
<FilesMatch = ".*\.(db|inc|conf|ini)$">
Deny from all = &n=bsp; &nbs=p; = &n=bsp; &nbs=p;
</FilesMatch>
#-----------------------
STEP =8:
Finally, if you want the WebDNA [protect] context to properly =work, you will need the
following lines INSIDE the virtualhost =configuration file, for every single site on your server.
Open each =virtualhost config file and add the following =lines:
#-----------------------
<IfModule =mod_rewrite.c>
RewriteEngine on
RewriteRule .* - =[E=3DHTTP_AUTHORIZATION:%{
HTTP:Authorization
},L]</IfModule>
#-----------------------
For Lion Server =(10.7), the configuration files are located =here:
/etc/apache2/sites/0000_X.X.X.X_80_<myDomain>.conf =(non-ssl =domains)
/etc/apache2/sites/0000_X.X.X.X_443_<myDomain>.conf =(ssl domains)
For Mountain Lion Server (10.8), the configuration =files are located =here:
/Library/Server/Web/Config/apache2/sites/0000_X.X.X.X_80_<myDo=main>.conf (non-ssl =domains)
/Library/Server/Web/Config/apache2/sites/0000_X.X.X.X_443_<=myDomain>.conf (ssl domains)
in the following file for non-SSL =vhosts:
STEP 9:
Make sure that you add index.dna as a =default index type for each WebDNA-enabled site you host.
Do this in =Lion & Mtn Lion SERVER by opening Server.app, selecting Web (10.7) =or Websites (10.8)
under SERVICES in the left-side pane, select your =domain to edit and then select the "edit" button
next to "Index =Files:". In the drop-down sheet, select + and add "index.dna" to the =list.
STEP 10:
Restart apache (there is no need to start =WebDNA, it is automatically done with the first
WebDNA request apache =receives. This is also the reason why we do not need anymore =the
WebDNAMonitor from the previous versions) either =with
apachectl restart
or using your administration =GUI.
STEP 11:
Connect your browser to =
http://www.domain1.com/WebDNA/Admin/AdminPrefs.dna
= to manage =site1,
http://www.domain2.com/WebDNA/Admin/AdminPrefs.dna
to manage site2 etc...
login and pass =admin/admin
If your login fails, verify that STEP 8 has been done =and try again.
That should do =it.
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