=20 =20Dan is correct that Google does try =to figure this stuff out because they know that most people don't understand the technical aspects.
But if you let them figure it out you are also continuing to dilute your link building efforts, and you are leaving it to Google to identify your primary domain.
All of my best results always seem to come from not letting Google do the thinking.
It always seemed to me that you'll always rank better when you you just do what they recommend without them spending more CPU cycles to figure out what you should be doing.
-Matt
On 1/20/2014 1:28 PM, Dan Strong wrote:
=Google's latest stance on it =3D =dont sweat it, but let us know which one is the "authority")
Don't sweat it: http://searchengineland.com/googl=es-matt-cutts-duplicate-content-wont-hurt-you-unless-it-is-spammy-167459=a>
Dupe content: https://suppor=t.google.com/webmasters/answer/66359
Canonicalization: https://suppo=rt.google.com/webmasters/answer/139066
As for redirects, WebDNA's [redirect] has always been hit and miss depending on platform, so when SEO matters, I always use Apache redirect, usually in .htaccess, but if there are a bunch then directly in httpd.conf
=Redirect<space>301<space>/oldPage.html<space>http://www.Domain.com/newPage.=html
Redirect<space>301<space>http://www.OldDomain.com<space&g=t;http://www.Domain.com/
etc.
-Dan Stronghttp://www.DanStrong.comOn 1/20/2014 10:16 AM, Psi Prime Inc, Matthew A Perosi =wrote:
Yes, you are diluting your domain authority by having multiple domains service the same content. There's even a potentially worse problem =though... Depending on how many domain names you have, more than 2 or 3 maybe, Google will view your single website as multiple websites. This is known as duplicate content.
Google knows not to penalize someone for the "duplicate" version of www.domain.com and simply domain.com, but when it =comes to things like:
www.domain1.com
domain1.com
www.domain2.com
domain2.com
www.domain3.com
domain3.com
www.domain4.com
domain4.com
www.domain5.com
domain5.com
then Google starts to get upset because this looks like 10 different websites. =46rom their point of view, you've =sold or syndicated your information, and it will work against you.
Many of the sites I manage have 5 or more domain names we use for offline marketing. I use a few different methods to handle this. Normally, I would just use the domain =forwarding feature with GoDaddy to 301 the alternate domain names to the primary domain names. But I also add extra Google =Analytic UTM tracking codes so I know what domain the person used in the first place.
However, for your situation, since you already have pages in the Google index, you should change your Apache configuration to test the domain name, and rewrite the URL to the primary domain name. That way you can still keep the pages and variables. You would want to make sure the Apache config =uses a 301 to indicate the changed URLs.
You could also build this feature into WebDNA using the [redirect] context, but you might run into issues depending on which version of WebDNA you are using because the [redirect] is a 302, not a 301. Using a 302 will not solve the =duplicate content issue.
Hope that helps,
-Matthew Perosi
On 1/20/2014 12:37 PM, Steve Craig wrote:
Hi
Just looking for a bit of advice - I have a site that is available via many different domains and at the moment there are no redirects so if you arrive via domain1.com then every page thereafter stays on that domain, likewise if you arrive as domain2.com it stays there but all the content is the same from the same CMS.
My question is do you think I am wasting Google ranking by effectively sharing out my hits across domains or do you think I should redirect all requests to one of the =domains?
I read somewhere that I am weakening my position a bit because my "popularity" is being shared out across multiple domains, it seemed logical just wondered what everyones experiences were.
If redirecting is the answer, what is the easiest way on an Apache server, using WebDNA or using an Apache =redirect?
Thanks for any input.
Cheers
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=20 =20Dan is correct that Google does try =to figure this stuff out because they know that most people don't understand the technical aspects.
But if you let them figure it out you are also continuing to dilute your link building efforts, and you are leaving it to Google to identify your primary domain.
All of my best results always seem to come from not letting Google do the thinking.
It always seemed to me that you'll always rank better when you you just do what they recommend without them spending more CPU cycles to figure out what you should be doing.
-Matt
On 1/20/2014 1:28 PM, Dan Strong wrote:
=Google's latest stance on it =3D =dont sweat it, but let us know which one is the "authority")
Don't sweat it: http://searchengineland.com/googl=es-matt-cutts-duplicate-content-wont-hurt-you-unless-it-is-spammy-167459=a>
Dupe content: https://suppor=t.google.com/webmasters/answer/66359
Canonicalization: https://suppo=rt.google.com/webmasters/answer/139066
As for redirects, WebDNA's [redirect] has always been hit and miss depending on platform, so when SEO matters, I always use Apache redirect, usually in .htaccess, but if there are a bunch then directly in httpd.conf
=Redirect<space>301<space>/oldPage.html<space>http://www.Domain.com/newPage.=html
Redirect<space>301<space>http://www.OldDomain.com<space&g=t;http://www.Domain.com/
etc.
-Dan Stronghttp://www.DanStrong.comOn 1/20/2014 10:16 AM, Psi Prime Inc, Matthew A Perosi =wrote:
Yes, you are diluting your domain authority by having multiple domains service the same content. There's even a potentially worse problem =though... Depending on how many domain names you have, more than 2 or 3 maybe, Google will view your single website as multiple websites. This is known as duplicate content.
Google knows not to penalize someone for the "duplicate" version of www.domain.com and simply domain.com, but when it =comes to things like:
www.domain1.com
domain1.com
www.domain2.com
domain2.com
www.domain3.com
domain3.com
www.domain4.com
domain4.com
www.domain5.com
domain5.com
then Google starts to get upset because this looks like 10 different websites. =46rom their point of view, you've =sold or syndicated your information, and it will work against you.
Many of the sites I manage have 5 or more domain names we use for offline marketing. I use a few different methods to handle this. Normally, I would just use the domain =forwarding feature with GoDaddy to 301 the alternate domain names to the primary domain names. But I also add extra Google =Analytic UTM tracking codes so I know what domain the person used in the first place.
However, for your situation, since you already have pages in the Google index, you should change your Apache configuration to test the domain name, and rewrite the URL to the primary domain name. That way you can still keep the pages and variables. You would want to make sure the Apache config =uses a 301 to indicate the changed URLs.
You could also build this feature into WebDNA using the [redirect] context, but you might run into issues depending on which version of WebDNA you are using because the [redirect] is a 302, not a 301. Using a 302 will not solve the =duplicate content issue.
Hope that helps,
-Matthew Perosi
On 1/20/2014 12:37 PM, Steve Craig wrote:
Hi
Just looking for a bit of advice - I have a site that is available via many different domains and at the moment there are no redirects so if you arrive via domain1.com then every page thereafter stays on that domain, likewise if you arrive as domain2.com it stays there but all the content is the same from the same CMS.
My question is do you think I am wasting Google ranking by effectively sharing out my hits across domains or do you think I should redirect all requests to one of the =domains?
I read somewhere that I am weakening my position a bit because my "popularity" is being shared out across multiple domains, it seemed logical just wondered what everyones experiences were.
If redirecting is the answer, what is the easiest way on an Apache server, using WebDNA or using an Apache =redirect?
Thanks for any input.
Cheers
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