Re: [WebDNA] Google Cloud

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2014


It keeps the original formatting.
numero = 111087
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texte = --Apple-Mail=_DAAC2F57-96A1-4CE5-95BD-981D2D9B21A7 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Try Linode, I have a number of instances, and once you have one set up = it is very quick and easy to use it as a master to clone others. On 4 Feb 2014, at 5:20 pm, David Bastedo wrote: > "Has anybody got webcat working on Google Cloud?" >=20 > Answer seems to be no. > Does it seem like it will be a problem? > Answer, seems to be no. >=20 > My reworked question: >=20 > 1. What is a good, cloud solution, to boot/run high CPU/RAM machines, = with high I/O disk speeds, that I can run Webcat on to crunch data, not = run a website >=20 > 2. I am looking for metered billing - I only want the machine for as = long as I need to run my routines, which I need to speed up to chunk = through a stockpile of data. I'm working on a prototype that will be = re-written in another language, but for now, I need to use what I've = written >=20 > I'm looking for raw power and speed for a few days to a week or two at = a time, every now and then. >=20 > Steve, the only advantage to me, is that I will be deploying other = projects to Cloud via App Engine and I'd prefer to have things in as few = places as possible. I'm not an expert in these things and have had a = few, but limited experiences.=20 >=20 > I look at AWS and it's just too much for the most part. I am familiar = with google, however, so for some reason, I can deal. I also like google = products. >=20 > I don't know of Linode, they just launched a beta of metered a few = days ago and are moving to metered billing it seems w/ caps - = http://techcrunch.com/2014/01/29/linode-moves-from-monthly-to-metered-bill= ing/ >=20 > I'm open to suggestions. >=20 > thanks. >=20 > d. >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 5:12 PM, Stuart Tremain = wrote: > Costing has always been a headache with Google & Amazon even to the = experts at Amazon who have told me that they find it confusing !! >=20 > As Bob suggested stick with Linode ..... >=20 >=20 >=20 > Regards >=20 > Stuart Tremain > IDFK Web Developments > AUSTRALIA > webdna@idfk.com.au >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > On 4 Feb 2014, at 5:21 am, Brian B. Burton wrote: >=20 >> Good luck figuring out how much hosting your website on google will = cost. No thanks, I'll stick with Linode.=20 >>=20 >> -BBB >>=20 >>=20 >> On Feb 3, 2014, at 12:02 PM, Paul Willis wrote: >>=20 >>> http://bit.ly/IF8fwU >>>=20 >>> :-) >>>=20 >>> Admittedly you do need to scroll down the resulting page >>>=20 >>> PW >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> On 03/02/2014 17:53, Dan Strong wrote: >>>> Cost? >>>>=20 >>>> -Dan Strong >>>> http://DanStrong.com >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 9:46 AM, Paul Willis = wrote: >>>> Well there's Google Cloud and there's Google Cloud. It is true = WebDNA can't be used for the Google App Engine but the Compute Engine is = just regular Linux VMs so running it on those should be straightforward = (never used it personally though) >>=20 >> --------------------------------------------------------- This = message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . = To unsubscribe, E-mail to: archives: = http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us Bug Reporting: = support@webdna.us >=20 > --------------------------------------------------------- This message = is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To = unsubscribe, E-mail to: archives: = http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us Bug Reporting: = support@webdna.us >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > David Bastedo > Ten Plus One Communications Inc. > http://www.10plus1.com > 416.277.4499 >=20 > --------------------------------------------------------- This message = is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To = unsubscribe, E-mail to: archives: = http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us Bug Reporting: = support@webdna.us --Apple-Mail=_DAAC2F57-96A1-4CE5-95BD-981D2D9B21A7 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Try Linode, I have a number of instances, and once you have one set up it is very quick and easy to use it as  a master to clone others.


On 4 Feb 2014, at 5:20 pm, David Bastedo <david@10plus1.com> wrote:

"Has anybody got webcat working on Google Cloud?"

Answer seems to be no.
Does it seem like it will be a problem?
Answer, seems to be no.

My reworked question:

1. What is a good, cloud solution, to boot/run  high CPU/RAM machines, with high I/O  disk speeds, that I can run Webcat on to crunch data, not run a website

2.  I am looking for metered billing - I only want the machine for as long as I need to run my routines, which I need to speed up to chunk through a stockpile of data. I'm working on a prototype that will be re-written in another language, but for now, I need to use what I've written

I'm looking for raw power and speed for a few days to a week or two at a time, every now and then.

Steve, the only advantage to me, is that I will be deploying other projects to Cloud via App Engine and I'd prefer to have things in as few places as possible. I'm not an expert in these things and have had a few, but limited experiences.

I look at AWS and it's just too much for the most part. I am familiar with google, however, so for some reason, I can deal. I also like google products.

I don't know of Linode, they just launched a beta of metered a few days ago and are moving to metered billing it seems w/ caps - http://techcrunch.com/2014/01/29/linode-moves-from-monthly-to-metered-billing/

I'm open to suggestions.

thanks.

d.


















On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 5:12 PM, Stuart Tremain <webdna@idfk.com.au> wrote:
Costing has always been a headache with Google & Amazon even to the experts at Amazon who have told me that they find it confusing !!

As Bob suggested stick with Linode .....



Regards

Stuart Tremain
IDFK Web Developments
AUSTRALIA




On 4 Feb 2014, at 5:21 am, Brian B. Burton <brian@burtons.com> wrote:

Good luck figuring out how much hosting your website on google will cost. No thanks, I'll stick with Linode. 

-BBB


On Feb 3, 2014, at 12:02 PM, Paul Willis <paul.willis@me.com> wrote:

http://bit.ly/IF8fwU

:-)

Admittedly you do need to scroll down the resulting page

PW


On 03/02/2014 17:53, Dan Strong wrote:
Cost?



On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 9:46 AM, Paul Willis <paul.willis@me.com> wrote:
Well there's Google Cloud and there's Google Cloud. It is true WebDNA can't be used for the Google App Engine but the Compute Engine is just regular Linux VMs so running it on those should be straightforward (never used it personally though)

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  1. Re: [WebDNA] Google Cloud (Stuart Tremain 2014)
  2. Re: [WebDNA] Google Cloud (David Bastedo 2014)
  3. Re: [WebDNA] Google Cloud (Stuart Tremain 2014)
  4. Re: [WebDNA] Google Cloud (Dan Strong 2014)
  5. Re: [WebDNA] Google Cloud ("Brian B. Burton" 2014)
  6. Re: [WebDNA] Google Cloud (Steve Graham 2014)
  7. Re: [WebDNA] Google Cloud (Paul Willis 2014)
  8. Re: [WebDNA] Google Cloud (Dan Strong 2014)
  9. Re: [WebDNA] Google Cloud (Paul Willis 2014)
  10. Re: [WebDNA] Google Cloud (Steve Graham 2014)
  11. RE: [WebDNA] Google Cloud ("Terry Nair" 2014)
  12. Re: [WebDNA] Google Cloud (Dan Strong 2014)
  13. [WebDNA] Google Cloud (David Bastedo 2014)
--Apple-Mail=_DAAC2F57-96A1-4CE5-95BD-981D2D9B21A7 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Try Linode, I have a number of instances, and once you have one set up = it is very quick and easy to use it as a master to clone others. On 4 Feb 2014, at 5:20 pm, David Bastedo wrote: > "Has anybody got webcat working on Google Cloud?" >=20 > Answer seems to be no. > Does it seem like it will be a problem? > Answer, seems to be no. >=20 > My reworked question: >=20 > 1. What is a good, cloud solution, to boot/run high CPU/RAM machines, = with high I/O disk speeds, that I can run Webcat on to crunch data, not = run a website >=20 > 2. I am looking for metered billing - I only want the machine for as = long as I need to run my routines, which I need to speed up to chunk = through a stockpile of data. I'm working on a prototype that will be = re-written in another language, but for now, I need to use what I've = written >=20 > I'm looking for raw power and speed for a few days to a week or two at = a time, every now and then. >=20 > Steve, the only advantage to me, is that I will be deploying other = projects to Cloud via App Engine and I'd prefer to have things in as few = places as possible. I'm not an expert in these things and have had a = few, but limited experiences.=20 >=20 > I look at AWS and it's just too much for the most part. I am familiar = with google, however, so for some reason, I can deal. I also like google = products. >=20 > I don't know of Linode, they just launched a beta of metered a few = days ago and are moving to metered billing it seems w/ caps - = http://techcrunch.com/2014/01/29/linode-moves-from-monthly-to-metered-bill= ing/ >=20 > I'm open to suggestions. >=20 > thanks. >=20 > d. >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 5:12 PM, Stuart Tremain = wrote: > Costing has always been a headache with Google & Amazon even to the = experts at Amazon who have told me that they find it confusing !! >=20 > As Bob suggested stick with Linode ..... >=20 >=20 >=20 > Regards >=20 > Stuart Tremain > IDFK Web Developments > AUSTRALIA > webdna@idfk.com.au >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > On 4 Feb 2014, at 5:21 am, Brian B. Burton wrote: >=20 >> Good luck figuring out how much hosting your website on google will = cost. No thanks, I'll stick with Linode.=20 >>=20 >> -BBB >>=20 >>=20 >> On Feb 3, 2014, at 12:02 PM, Paul Willis wrote: >>=20 >>> http://bit.ly/IF8fwU >>>=20 >>> :-) >>>=20 >>> Admittedly you do need to scroll down the resulting page >>>=20 >>> PW >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> On 03/02/2014 17:53, Dan Strong wrote: >>>> Cost? >>>>=20 >>>> -Dan Strong >>>> http://DanStrong.com >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 9:46 AM, Paul Willis = wrote: >>>> Well there's Google Cloud and there's Google Cloud. It is true = WebDNA can't be used for the Google App Engine but the Compute Engine is = just regular Linux VMs so running it on those should be straightforward = (never used it personally though) >>=20 >> --------------------------------------------------------- This = message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . = To unsubscribe, E-mail to: archives: = http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us Bug Reporting: = support@webdna.us >=20 > --------------------------------------------------------- This message = is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To = unsubscribe, E-mail to: archives: = http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us Bug Reporting: = support@webdna.us >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > David Bastedo > Ten Plus One Communications Inc. > http://www.10plus1.com > 416.277.4499 >=20 > --------------------------------------------------------- This message = is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To = unsubscribe, E-mail to: archives: = http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us Bug Reporting: = support@webdna.us --Apple-Mail=_DAAC2F57-96A1-4CE5-95BD-981D2D9B21A7 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Try Linode, I have a number of instances, and once you have one set up it is very quick and easy to use it as  a master to clone others.


On 4 Feb 2014, at 5:20 pm, David Bastedo <david@10plus1.com> wrote:

"Has anybody got webcat working on Google Cloud?"

Answer seems to be no.
Does it seem like it will be a problem?
Answer, seems to be no.

My reworked question:

1. What is a good, cloud solution, to boot/run  high CPU/RAM machines, with high I/O  disk speeds, that I can run Webcat on to crunch data, not run a website

2.  I am looking for metered billing - I only want the machine for as long as I need to run my routines, which I need to speed up to chunk through a stockpile of data. I'm working on a prototype that will be re-written in another language, but for now, I need to use what I've written

I'm looking for raw power and speed for a few days to a week or two at a time, every now and then.

Steve, the only advantage to me, is that I will be deploying other projects to Cloud via App Engine and I'd prefer to have things in as few places as possible. I'm not an expert in these things and have had a few, but limited experiences.

I look at AWS and it's just too much for the most part. I am familiar with google, however, so for some reason, I can deal. I also like google products.

I don't know of Linode, they just launched a beta of metered a few days ago and are moving to metered billing it seems w/ caps - http://techcrunch.com/2014/01/29/linode-moves-from-monthly-to-metered-billing/

I'm open to suggestions.

thanks.

d.


















On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 5:12 PM, Stuart Tremain <webdna@idfk.com.au> wrote:
Costing has always been a headache with Google & Amazon even to the experts at Amazon who have told me that they find it confusing !!

As Bob suggested stick with Linode .....



Regards

Stuart Tremain
IDFK Web Developments
AUSTRALIA




On 4 Feb 2014, at 5:21 am, Brian B. Burton <brian@burtons.com> wrote:

Good luck figuring out how much hosting your website on google will cost. No thanks, I'll stick with Linode. 

-BBB


On Feb 3, 2014, at 12:02 PM, Paul Willis <paul.willis@me.com> wrote:

http://bit.ly/IF8fwU

:-)

Admittedly you do need to scroll down the resulting page

PW


On 03/02/2014 17:53, Dan Strong wrote:
Cost?



On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 9:46 AM, Paul Willis <paul.willis@me.com> wrote:
Well there's Google Cloud and there's Google Cloud. It is true WebDNA can't be used for the Google App Engine but the Compute Engine is just regular Linux VMs so running it on those should be straightforward (never used it personally though)

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416.277.4499
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