Re: [WebDNA] User sessions - cookies only or cookies and a

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2016


It keeps the original formatting.
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texte = 680 > I have just been playing around with the [session] tag. > > It looks like the same browserID was generated for sessions > created by Safari, Chrome and Firefox. Am I missing something > here, should there not be a different browserID for different > browsers? BrowserID us unreliable for anything related to sessions: > "A word of warning: In certain rare cases, it is possible to > find two identicals browser "fingerprint" or BrowserID. It is > not advised to do visitor recognition based only on Browser > ID." Your test is not a rare case but it failed 100% of the time, so my conclusion is that it's not what it's promoted to be. I have other questions about this undocumented or poorly documented tag: Why does it fail in your simple test? What does the [BrowserID] value consist of, SPECIFICALLY? How is it created? How does it ACTUALLY work ... or doesn't it? Why is is so vaguely described in the docs? Just don't bother with it. Cookies are far more useful and reliable. Regards, Kenneth Grome WebDNA Solutions http://www.webdnasolutions.com Web Database Systems and Linux Server Administration --------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us . Associated Messages, from the most recent to the oldest:

    
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  3. Re: [WebDNA] User sessions - cookies only or cookies and a sessions.db? (dale 2016)
  4. Re: [WebDNA] User sessions - cookies only or cookies and a sessions.db? (christophe.billiottet@webdna.us 2016)
  5. Re: [WebDNA] User sessions - cookies only or cookies and a (Kenneth Grome 2016)
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  7. Re: [WebDNA] User sessions - cookies only or cookies and a sessions.db? (christophe.billiottet@webdna.us 2016)
  8. Re: [WebDNA] User sessions - cookies only or cookies and a sessions.db? (christophe.billiottet@webdna.us 2016)
  9. Re: [WebDNA] User sessions - cookies only or cookies and a (Kenneth Grome 2016)
  10. Re: [WebDNA] User sessions - cookies only or cookies and a sessions.db? (Donovan Brooke 2016)
  11. Re: [WebDNA] User sessions - cookies only or cookies and a sessions.db? (Tom Duke 2016)
  12. Re: [WebDNA] User sessions - cookies only or cookies and a sessions.db? (christophe.billiottet@webdna.us 2016)
  13. Re: [WebDNA] User sessions - cookies only or cookies and a sessions.db? (Donovan Brooke 2016)
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  17. Re: [WebDNA] User sessions - cookies only or cookies and a sessions.db? (christophe.billiottet@webdna.us 2016)
  18. Re: [WebDNA] User sessions - cookies only or cookies and a sessions.db? (christophe.billiottet@webdna.us 2016)
  19. Re: [WebDNA] User sessions - cookies only or cookies and a (Kenneth Grome 2016)
  20. Re: [WebDNA] User sessions - cookies only or cookies and a sessions.db? (christophe.billiottet@webdna.us 2016)
  21. Re: [WebDNA] User sessions - cookies only or cookies and a sessions.db? (christophe.billiottet@webdna.us 2016)
  22. Re: [WebDNA] User sessions - cookies only or cookies and a sessions.db? (Donovan Brooke 2016)
  23. Re: [WebDNA] User sessions - cookies only or cookies and a sessions.db? (Tom Duke 2016)
  24. Re: [WebDNA] User sessions - cookies only or cookies and a sessions.db? (christophe.billiottet@webdna.us 2016)
  25. [WebDNA] User sessions - cookies only or cookies and a sessions.db? (dale 2016)
680 > I have just been playing around with the [session] tag. > > It looks like the same browserID was generated for sessions > created by Safari, Chrome and Firefox. Am I missing something > here, should there not be a different browserID for different > browsers? BrowserID us unreliable for anything related to sessions: > "A word of warning: In certain rare cases, it is possible to > find two identicals browser "fingerprint" or BrowserID. It is > not advised to do visitor recognition based only on Browser > ID." Your test is not a rare case but it failed 100% of the time, so my conclusion is that it's not what it's promoted to be. I have other questions about this undocumented or poorly documented tag: Why does it fail in your simple test? What does the [BrowserID] value consist of, SPECIFICALLY? How is it created? How does it ACTUALLY work ... or doesn't it? Why is is so vaguely described in the docs? Just don't bother with it. Cookies are far more useful and reliable. Regards, Kenneth Grome WebDNA Solutions http://www.webdnasolutions.com Web Database Systems and Linux Server Administration --------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us . Kenneth Grome

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