Re: [WebDNA] Error 500 with SUMM=T

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2017


It keeps the original formatting.
numero = 113849
interpreted = N
texte = 1444 --Apple-Mail=_9C5C0F60-4C2E-447F-BD50-2F7D107DB730 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 How long time does it take before your 500 error appear? FcgidIOTimeout is set to 40 seconds as default in Apache 2.5. Best, Christer ************************************************************* Christer Olsson PO Box 9160 Phone +46 40 25 85 85 Ljusa Id=C3=A9er AB SE-200 39 Malmo Fax +46 40 25 85 89 > 13 dec. 2017 kl. 15:25 skrev Lawrence Banahan : >=20 > This morning I wrote a dirty script to summ the result by making a new = DB and searching this db before adding a new line... > And I still add a crash, so memery problem... Maby not, we all have = been thinking of Webdna, Ram etc, but a 500 answer isn't it a Apache = error? > I realised that this new db was still getting written after this 500 = error and I did get the right data in my db after all... > So isn't it in apache that I should setup a Timeout or KeepAlive On or = so one? > Not sure how to set this up... >=20 > 2017-12-13 0:59 GMT+01:00 Brian Harrington >: > LMAO... maybe that's why the cable company makes u reboot first thing! = my current server 2006 mac pro 32BG 2X 3GHZ dual cores 0 raid on 4 X2TB = HDD's...=20 >=20 > trying to speed load times on my heavy dynamic site classifieds.today = that does not "mirror" but takes on any = domain like it's own like http://scottsclassifieds.com/ = or the 20 other current domains have = pointing that way.... bought an upgraded 12 core 2.66 w/64 GB ram and = turned out not much better and was actually slower to serve my less = complicated sites! I thought maybe it was the builder so picked up 12 = core 3.46! 128GB ram and 1TB SSD and 8TB 0 RAID and same slow results! = HUH (Both R for sale anyone interested) >=20 > Don't get this 6GB's they claim. When they go on to tell you best = read/writes are 500/mb's...???!!!=20 > The so claimed PCIe SSD is now used to drop files (backups) on and = I really don't see it any faster than the IDE I put in my CD slot! Takes = 10 seconds either one on a drag-n-drop! LOL >=20 > Glad you have it fixed... now we can all rest! LOL >=20 > On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 6:05 PM, > wrote: > Sorry, I probably missed this in all the emails, but did you state = your server info? >=20 > WebDNA Version > Operating System >=20 > Can you post the results of 'free' and 'df -h' from the commandline? >=20 > Donovan >=20 >=20 >=20 > On 2017-12-12 12:02, Lawrence Banahan wrote: > I have "only" 16 Gb Ram, I also had that with V6, so it looks like > V8.5 needs more Ram... >=20 > 2017-12-12 18:41 GMT+01:00 Brian Fries [31]>: >=20 > I ran with your numbers and it worked fine for me. I bumped them up > to 535000 and 510000, and I got the =E2=80=9C500 Internal Server = Error=E2=80=9D >=20 > So, it looks like an available RAM issue, as you said, with my limit > higher than yours due to different system configuration. >=20 > - Brian Fries >=20 > On Dec 12, 2017, at 9:26 AM, Lawrence Banahan > [18]> wrote: >=20 > Thanks for this test Brian, > I tested it with your code and everything works fine. > http://www.tourismethaifr.com/admin/testdb.tpl = [19] >=20 > I have tested with the same amount of data 135 000 like in my DB > and then it crash... > http://www.tourismethaifr.com/admin/testdb2.tpl = [20] >=20 > [closedatabase test.db] > [writefile test.db]_email > [/writefile] > [loop start=3D1&end=3D135000][append > db=3Dtest.db]_email=3Dtest[math]floor([random > format=3Dfloat]*110000)[/math]@example.com = [21][/append][/loop] > [search db=3Dtest.db&ne_emaildata=3DFIND_ALL] [numfound] > raw[/search]
> [search db=3Dtest.db&ne_emaildata=3DFIND_ALL&_emailSUMM=3DT] = [numfound] > summarized[/search] >=20 > Maybe somthing to do with RAM... Server... > I have rebooted it! > The db is 3mb, it shouldnt be an issuu... >=20 > It was already running on the same server... >=20 > 2017-12-12 18:01 GMT+01:00 Brian Fries [22]>: >=20 > Here is a test that should determine whether it is a database > content problem: >=20 > [closedatabase test.db] > [writefile test.db]_email > [/writefile] > [loop start=3D1&end=3D15000][append > db=3Dtest.db]_email=3Dtest[math]floor([random > format=3Dfloat]*10000)[/math]@example.com = [12][/append][/loop] > [search db=3Dtest.db&ne_emaildata=3DFIND_ALL] [numfound] > raw[/search]
> [search db=3Dtest.db&ne_emaildata=3DFIND_ALL&_emailSUMM=3DT] > [numfound] summarized[/search] >=20 > This will create a database named =E2=80=9Ctest.db=E2=80=9D with one = field - > =E2=80=9C_email=E2=80=9D, then add 15000 records with _email set to a = value > like "test6746@example.com [13]=E2=80=9D, = where the numeric portion is > a random integer from zero to 9999, so there will be duplicates. >=20 > In my test on a linux server running WebDNA 8.5.1, it works > fine, with the raw results returning 15000 records, and the > summarized results varying from one run to the next, usually > around 7800 unique values. >=20 > My guess would be that this will work fine for you as well, and > that there is some data in the real database that WebDNA is > choking on when running the SUMM comparisons. I this is the > case, then the next step would be to split the real data into > smaller subsets and run the test on those until you can isolate > what data is causing WebDNA problems. Then Chris will have > something specific to fix. >=20 > - Brian Fries >=20 > On Dec 12, 2017, at 7:28 AM, Brian Harrington > [6]> wrote: >=20 > exactly what Ive been saying... you all keep your little code > a secret and NO resource on the website, same site for 12 > years! yelp... just checked "search" on "sort" NO REF THERE! >=20 > So we all need to take notes...? >=20 > On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 12:04 PM, Kenneth Grome > [7]> wrote: >=20 > I see two problems with > > > > complex sort example: > > &email*S*sort=3D1&emailsdir=3Das > > (should be &emailsort=3D1&emailsdir=3Das) >=20 > I already corrected this typo in a later post ... :) >=20 > > simple sort example: > > &*as*emailsort=3D1 > > (should be &emailsort=3D1) >=20 > No it should not! >=20 > Youre saying this because you do not know how to write > simpler > sort code. And thats why I posted this example ... so you > and > Lawrence (and anyone else who does not know this) might > learn how > to do it. >=20 > Regards, > Kenneth Grome > WebDNA Solutions > http://www.webdnasolutions.com [1] > Web Database Systems and Linux Server Administration >=20 > --------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list talk@webdna.us [2] > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: talk-leave@webdna.us = [3] > archives: http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 = [4] > Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us [5] >=20 > --------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the > mailing list talk@webdna.us [8] To = unsubscribe, E-mail to: > talk-leave@webdna.us [9] archives: > http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 = [10] Bug Reporting: > support@webdna.us [11] >=20 > --------------------------------------------------------- This > message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing > list talk@webdna.us [14] To unsubscribe, = E-mail to: > talk-leave@webdna.us [15] archives: > http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 = [16] Bug Reporting: > support@webdna.us [17] >=20 > --------------------------------------------------------- This > message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing > list talk@webdna.us [23] To unsubscribe, = E-mail to: > talk-leave@webdna.us [24] archives: > http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 = [25] Bug Reporting: > support@webdna.us [26] >=20 > --------------------------------------------------------- This > message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing > list talk@webdna.us [27] To unsubscribe, = E-mail to: > talk-leave@webdna.us [28] archives: > http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 = [29] Bug Reporting: > support@webdna.us [30] >=20 > --------------------------------------------------------- This > message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list > talk@webdna.us To unsubscribe, E-mail to: = talk-leave@webdna.us > archives: http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 = Bug Reporting: > support@webdna.us >=20 > Links: > ------ > [1] http://www.webdnasolutions.com/ > [2] mailto:talk@webdna.us > [3] mailto:talk-leave@webdna.us > [4] http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 = > [5] mailto:support@webdna.us > [6] mailto:autoglasswny@gmail.com > [7] mailto:ken@webdnasolutions.com > [8] mailto:talk@webdna.us > [9] mailto:talk-leave@webdna.us > [10] http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 = > [11] mailto:support@webdna.us > [12] http://example.com/ > [13] mailto:test6746@example.com > [14] mailto:talk@webdna.us > [15] mailto:talk-leave@webdna.us > [16] http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 = > [17] mailto:support@webdna.us > [18] mailto:banahan.l@gmail.com > [19] http://www.tourismethaifr.com/admin/testdb.tpl = > [20] http://www.tourismethaifr.com/admin/testdb2.tpl = > [21] http://example.com/ > [22] mailto:iphonzie@gmail.com > [23] mailto:talk@webdna.us > [24] mailto:talk-leave@webdna.us > [25] http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 = > [26] mailto:support@webdna.us > [27] mailto:talk@webdna.us > [28] mailto:talk-leave@webdna.us > [29] http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 = > [30] mailto:support@webdna.us > [31] mailto:iphonzie@gmail.com >=20 > --------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list talk@webdna.us > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: talk-leave@webdna.us = > archives: http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 = > Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >=20 > --------------------------------------------------------- This message = is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list = talk@webdna.us To unsubscribe, E-mail to: = talk-leave@webdna.us archives: = http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 = Bug Reporting: = support@webdna.us > --------------------------------------------------------- This message = is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list = talk@webdna.us To unsubscribe, E-mail to: talk-leave@webdna.us archives: = http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 Bug Reporting: = support@webdna.us --Apple-Mail=_9C5C0F60-4C2E-447F-BD50-2F7D107DB730 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 How long time does it take before your 500 error appear?

FcgidIOTimeout is set to = 40 seconds as default in Apache 2.5.

Best,
Christer

 *********************************************************= ****
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 Ljusa = Id=C3=A9er AB    SE-200 39 Malmo    Fax +46 40 = 25 85 89



13 dec. 2017 kl. 15:25 skrev Lawrence Banahan <banahan.l@gmail.com>:

This morning I wrote a dirty script to summ the result by = making a new DB and searching this db before adding a new line...
And I still add a crash, so memery problem... Maby not, = we all have been thinking of Webdna, Ram etc, but a 500 answer isn't it = a Apache error?
I realised that this new db was = still getting written after this 500 error and I did get the right data = in my db after all...
So isn't it in apache that I = should setup a Timeout or KeepAlive On or so one?
Not = sure how to set this up...

2017-12-13= 0:59 GMT+01:00 Brian Harrington <autoglasswny@gmail.com>:
LMAO... maybe that's why the cable company makes u reboot = first thing! my current server 2006 mac pro 32BG 2X 3GHZ dual cores =  0 raid on 4 X2TB HDD's... 

 trying to speed load times on my = heavy dynamic site classifieds.today that does not "mirror" but takes = on any domain like it's own like http://scottsclassifieds.com/ or the = 20 other current domains have pointing that way.... bought an upgraded = 12 core 2.66 w/64 GB ram and turned out not much better and was actually = slower to serve my less complicated sites! I thought maybe it was the = builder so picked up 12 core 3.46! 128GB ram and 1TB SSD and 8TB 0 RAID = and same slow results! HUH  (Both R for sale anyone = interested)

Don't get this 6GB's they claim. When they go on to tell you = best read/writes are 500/mb's...???!!! 
  =  The so claimed PCIe SSD is now used to drop files (backups) on and = I really don't see it any faster than the IDE I put in my CD slot! Takes = 10 seconds either one on a drag-n-drop! LOL

Glad you have it fixed... now we can = all rest! LOL

On Tue, = Dec 12, 2017 at 6:05 PM, <dbrooke@euca.us> wrote:
Sorry, I probably missed this in all the emails, = but did you state your server info?

WebDNA Version
Operating System

Can you post the results of 'free' and 'df -h' from the commandline?

Donovan



On 2017-12-12 12:02, Lawrence Banahan wrote:
I have "only" 16 Gb Ram, I also had that with V6, so it looks like
V8.5 needs more Ram...

 2017-12-12 18:41 GMT+01:00 Brian Fries <iphonzie@gmail.com [31]>:

I ran with your numbers and it worked fine for me. I bumped them up
to 535000 and 510000, and I got the =E2=80=9C500 Internal Server = Error=E2=80=9D

So, it looks like an available RAM issue, as you said, with my limit
higher than yours due to different system configuration.

- Brian Fries

On Dec 12, 2017, at 9:26 AM, Lawrence Banahan <banahan.l@gmail.com
 [18]> wrote:

Thanks for this test Brian,
I tested it with your code and everything works fine.
http://www.tourismethaifr.com/admin/testdb.tpl [19]

I have tested with the same amount of data 135 000 like in my DB
and then it crash...
http://www.tourismethaifr.com/admin/testdb2.tpl [20]

[closedatabase test.db]
[writefile test.db]_email
[/writefile]
[loop start=3D1&end=3D135000][append
db=3Dtest.db]_email=3Dtest[math]floor([random
 format=3Dfloat]*110000)[/math]@example.com [21][/append][/loop]
[search db=3Dtest.db&ne_emaildata=3DFIND_ALL] = [numfound]
raw[/search]<br>
[search db=3Dtest.db&ne_emaildata=3DFIND_ALL&_emailSUMM=3DT] [numfound]
summarized[/search]

Maybe somthing to do with RAM... Server...
I have rebooted it!
 The db is 3mb, it shouldnt be an issuu...

It was already running on the same server...

 2017-12-12 18:01 GMT+01:00 Brian Fries <iphonzie@gmail.com [22]>:

Here is a test that should determine whether it is a database
content problem:

[closedatabase test.db]
[writefile test.db]_email
[/writefile]
[loop start=3D1&end=3D15000][append
db=3Dtest.db]_email=3Dtest[math]floor([random
 format=3Dfloat]*10000)[/math]@example.com [12][/append][/loop]
[search db=3Dtest.db&ne_emaildata=3DFIND_ALL] = [numfound]
raw[/search]<br>
[search db=3Dtest.db&ne_emaildata=3DFIND_ALL&_emailSUMM=3DT]
[numfound] summarized[/search]

This will create a database named =E2=80=9Ctest.db=E2=80=9D with one = field -
=E2=80=9C_email=E2=80=9D, then add 15000 records with _email set to a = value
 like "test6746@example.com [13]=E2=80=9D, where the numeric = portion is
a random integer from zero to 9999, so there will be duplicates.

In my test on a linux server running WebDNA 8.5.1, it works
= fine, with the raw results returning 15000 records, and the
= summarized results varying from one run to the next, usually
around 7800 unique values.

My guess would be that this will work fine for you as well, and
that there is some data in the real database that WebDNA is
= choking on when running the SUMM comparisons. I this is the
= case, then the next step would be to split the real data into
smaller subsets and run the test on those until you can isolate
what data is causing WebDNA problems. Then Chris will have
something specific to fix.

- Brian Fries

On Dec 12, 2017, at 7:28 AM, Brian Harrington
 <autoglasswny@gmail.com [6]> wrote:

exactly what Ive been saying... you all keep your little code
a secret and NO resource on the website,  same site for 12
years! yelp... just checked "search" on "sort" NO REF THERE!

So we all need to take notes...?

On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 12:04 PM, Kenneth Grome
 <ken@webdnasolutions.com [7]> wrote:

I see two problems with
>
> complex sort example:
> &email*S*sort=3D1&emailsdir=3Das
> (should be &emailsort=3D1&emailsdir=3Das)

I already corrected this typo in a later post ... :)

> simple sort example:
> &*as*emailsort=3D1
> (should be &emailsort=3D1)

No it should not!

 Youre saying this because you do not know how to write
simpler
sort code.  And thats why I posted this example ... so you
and
Lawrence (and anyone else who does not know this) might
learn how
to do it.

Regards,
Kenneth Grome
WebDNA Solutions
http://www.webdnasolutions.com [1]
Web Database Systems and Linux Server Administration

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  47. Re: [WebDNA] Error 500 with SUMM=T (Lawrence Banahan 2017)
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  49. Re: [WebDNA] Error 500 with SUMM=T (Lawrence Banahan 2017)
  50. Re: [WebDNA] Error 500 with SUMM=T (Kenneth Grome 2017)
  51. Re: [WebDNA] Error 500 with SUMM=T (Lawrence Banahan 2017)
  52. Re: [WebDNA] Error 500 with SUMM=T (Brian Harrington 2017)
  53. Re: [WebDNA] Error 500 with SUMM=T (Lawrence Banahan 2017)
  54. Re: [WebDNA] Error 500 with SUMM=T (Lawrence Banahan 2017)
  55. Re: [WebDNA] Error 500 with SUMM=T (Brian Harrington 2017)
  56. Re: [WebDNA] Error 500 with SUMM=T (Brian Harrington 2017)
  57. Re: [WebDNA] Error 500 with SUMM=T (Lawrence Banahan 2017)
  58. Re: [WebDNA] Error 500 with SUMM=T (Brian Harrington 2017)
  59. Re: [WebDNA] Error 500 with SUMM=T (Lawrence Banahan 2017)
  60. Re: [WebDNA] Error 500 with SUMM=T (Lawrence Banahan 2017)
  61. Re: [WebDNA] Error 500 with SUMM=T (Brian Harrington 2017)
  62. Re: [WebDNA] Error 500 with SUMM=T (Lawrence Banahan 2017)
  63. Re: [WebDNA] Error 500 with SUMM=T (Brian Harrington 2017)
  64. Re: [WebDNA] Error 500 with SUMM=T (Brian Harrington 2017)
  65. Re: [WebDNA] Error 500 with SUMM=T (christophe.billiottet@webdna.us 2017)
  66. Re: [WebDNA] Error 500 with SUMM=T (Lawrence Banahan 2017)
  67. Re: [WebDNA] Error 500 with SUMM=T (Lawrence Banahan 2017)
  68. Re: [WebDNA] Error 500 with SUMM=T (Brian Fries 2017)
  69. Re: [WebDNA] Error 500 with SUMM=T (Stuart Tremain 2017)
  70. [WebDNA] Error 500 with SUMM=T (Lawrence Banahan 2017)
1444 --Apple-Mail=_9C5C0F60-4C2E-447F-BD50-2F7D107DB730 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 How long time does it take before your 500 error appear? FcgidIOTimeout is set to 40 seconds as default in Apache 2.5. Best, Christer ************************************************************* Christer Olsson PO Box 9160 Phone +46 40 25 85 85 Ljusa Id=C3=A9er AB SE-200 39 Malmo Fax +46 40 25 85 89 > 13 dec. 2017 kl. 15:25 skrev Lawrence Banahan : >=20 > This morning I wrote a dirty script to summ the result by making a new = DB and searching this db before adding a new line... > And I still add a crash, so memery problem... Maby not, we all have = been thinking of Webdna, Ram etc, but a 500 answer isn't it a Apache = error? > I realised that this new db was still getting written after this 500 = error and I did get the right data in my db after all... > So isn't it in apache that I should setup a Timeout or KeepAlive On or = so one? > Not sure how to set this up... >=20 > 2017-12-13 0:59 GMT+01:00 Brian Harrington >: > LMAO... maybe that's why the cable company makes u reboot first thing! = my current server 2006 mac pro 32BG 2X 3GHZ dual cores 0 raid on 4 X2TB = HDD's...=20 >=20 > trying to speed load times on my heavy dynamic site classifieds.today = that does not "mirror" but takes on any = domain like it's own like http://scottsclassifieds.com/ = or the 20 other current domains have = pointing that way.... bought an upgraded 12 core 2.66 w/64 GB ram and = turned out not much better and was actually slower to serve my less = complicated sites! I thought maybe it was the builder so picked up 12 = core 3.46! 128GB ram and 1TB SSD and 8TB 0 RAID and same slow results! = HUH (Both R for sale anyone interested) >=20 > Don't get this 6GB's they claim. When they go on to tell you best = read/writes are 500/mb's...???!!!=20 > The so claimed PCIe SSD is now used to drop files (backups) on and = I really don't see it any faster than the IDE I put in my CD slot! Takes = 10 seconds either one on a drag-n-drop! LOL >=20 > Glad you have it fixed... now we can all rest! LOL >=20 > On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 6:05 PM, > wrote: > Sorry, I probably missed this in all the emails, but did you state = your server info? >=20 > WebDNA Version > Operating System >=20 > Can you post the results of 'free' and 'df -h' from the commandline? >=20 > Donovan >=20 >=20 >=20 > On 2017-12-12 12:02, Lawrence Banahan wrote: > I have "only" 16 Gb Ram, I also had that with V6, so it looks like > V8.5 needs more Ram... >=20 > 2017-12-12 18:41 GMT+01:00 Brian Fries [31]>: >=20 > I ran with your numbers and it worked fine for me. I bumped them up > to 535000 and 510000, and I got the =E2=80=9C500 Internal Server = Error=E2=80=9D >=20 > So, it looks like an available RAM issue, as you said, with my limit > higher than yours due to different system configuration. >=20 > - Brian Fries >=20 > On Dec 12, 2017, at 9:26 AM, Lawrence Banahan > [18]> wrote: >=20 > Thanks for this test Brian, > I tested it with your code and everything works fine. > http://www.tourismethaifr.com/admin/testdb.tpl = [19] >=20 > I have tested with the same amount of data 135 000 like in my DB > and then it crash... > http://www.tourismethaifr.com/admin/testdb2.tpl = [20] >=20 > [closedatabase test.db] > [writefile test.db]_email > [/writefile] > [loop start=3D1&end=3D135000][append > db=3Dtest.db]_email=3Dtest[math]floor([random > format=3Dfloat]*110000)[/math]@example.com = [21][/append][/loop] > [search db=3Dtest.db&ne_emaildata=3DFIND_ALL] [numfound] > raw[/search]
> [search db=3Dtest.db&ne_emaildata=3DFIND_ALL&_emailSUMM=3DT] = [numfound] > summarized[/search] >=20 > Maybe somthing to do with RAM... Server... > I have rebooted it! > The db is 3mb, it shouldnt be an issuu... >=20 > It was already running on the same server... >=20 > 2017-12-12 18:01 GMT+01:00 Brian Fries [22]>: >=20 > Here is a test that should determine whether it is a database > content problem: >=20 > [closedatabase test.db] > [writefile test.db]_email > [/writefile] > [loop start=3D1&end=3D15000][append > db=3Dtest.db]_email=3Dtest[math]floor([random > format=3Dfloat]*10000)[/math]@example.com = [12][/append][/loop] > [search db=3Dtest.db&ne_emaildata=3DFIND_ALL] [numfound] > raw[/search]
> [search db=3Dtest.db&ne_emaildata=3DFIND_ALL&_emailSUMM=3DT] > [numfound] summarized[/search] >=20 > This will create a database named =E2=80=9Ctest.db=E2=80=9D with one = field - > =E2=80=9C_email=E2=80=9D, then add 15000 records with _email set to a = value > like "test6746@example.com [13]=E2=80=9D, = where the numeric portion is > a random integer from zero to 9999, so there will be duplicates. >=20 > In my test on a linux server running WebDNA 8.5.1, it works > fine, with the raw results returning 15000 records, and the > summarized results varying from one run to the next, usually > around 7800 unique values. >=20 > My guess would be that this will work fine for you as well, and > that there is some data in the real database that WebDNA is > choking on when running the SUMM comparisons. I this is the > case, then the next step would be to split the real data into > smaller subsets and run the test on those until you can isolate > what data is causing WebDNA problems. Then Chris will have > something specific to fix. >=20 > - Brian Fries >=20 > On Dec 12, 2017, at 7:28 AM, Brian Harrington > [6]> wrote: >=20 > exactly what Ive been saying... you all keep your little code > a secret and NO resource on the website, same site for 12 > years! yelp... just checked "search" on "sort" NO REF THERE! >=20 > So we all need to take notes...? >=20 > On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 12:04 PM, Kenneth Grome > [7]> wrote: >=20 > I see two problems with > > > > complex sort example: > > &email*S*sort=3D1&emailsdir=3Das > > (should be &emailsort=3D1&emailsdir=3Das) >=20 > I already corrected this typo in a later post ... :) >=20 > > simple sort example: > > &*as*emailsort=3D1 > > (should be &emailsort=3D1) >=20 > No it should not! >=20 > Youre saying this because you do not know how to write > simpler > sort code. And thats why I posted this example ... so you > and > Lawrence (and anyone else who does not know this) might > learn how > to do it. >=20 > Regards, > Kenneth Grome > WebDNA Solutions > http://www.webdnasolutions.com [1] > Web Database Systems and Linux Server Administration >=20 > --------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list talk@webdna.us [2] > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: talk-leave@webdna.us = [3] > archives: http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 = [4] > Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us [5] >=20 > --------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the > mailing list talk@webdna.us [8] To = unsubscribe, E-mail to: > talk-leave@webdna.us [9] archives: > http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 = [10] Bug Reporting: > support@webdna.us [11] >=20 > --------------------------------------------------------- This > message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing > list talk@webdna.us [14] To unsubscribe, = E-mail to: > talk-leave@webdna.us [15] archives: > http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 = [16] Bug Reporting: > support@webdna.us [17] >=20 > --------------------------------------------------------- This > message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing > list talk@webdna.us [23] To unsubscribe, = E-mail to: > talk-leave@webdna.us [24] archives: > http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 = [25] Bug Reporting: > support@webdna.us [26] >=20 > --------------------------------------------------------- This > message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing > list talk@webdna.us [27] To unsubscribe, = E-mail to: > talk-leave@webdna.us [28] archives: > http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 = [29] Bug Reporting: > support@webdna.us [30] >=20 > --------------------------------------------------------- This > message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list > talk@webdna.us To unsubscribe, E-mail to: = talk-leave@webdna.us > archives: http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 = Bug Reporting: > support@webdna.us >=20 > Links: > ------ > [1] http://www.webdnasolutions.com/ > [2] mailto:talk@webdna.us > [3] mailto:talk-leave@webdna.us > [4] http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 = > [5] mailto:support@webdna.us > [6] mailto:autoglasswny@gmail.com > [7] mailto:ken@webdnasolutions.com > [8] mailto:talk@webdna.us > [9] mailto:talk-leave@webdna.us > [10] http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 = > [11] mailto:support@webdna.us > [12] http://example.com/ > [13] mailto:test6746@example.com > [14] mailto:talk@webdna.us > [15] mailto:talk-leave@webdna.us > [16] http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 = > [17] mailto:support@webdna.us > [18] mailto:banahan.l@gmail.com > [19] http://www.tourismethaifr.com/admin/testdb.tpl = > [20] http://www.tourismethaifr.com/admin/testdb2.tpl = > [21] http://example.com/ > [22] mailto:iphonzie@gmail.com > [23] mailto:talk@webdna.us > [24] mailto:talk-leave@webdna.us > [25] http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 = > [26] mailto:support@webdna.us > [27] mailto:talk@webdna.us > [28] mailto:talk-leave@webdna.us > [29] http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 = > [30] mailto:support@webdna.us > [31] mailto:iphonzie@gmail.com >=20 > --------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list talk@webdna.us > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: talk-leave@webdna.us = > archives: http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 = > Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >=20 > --------------------------------------------------------- This message = is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list = talk@webdna.us To unsubscribe, E-mail to: = talk-leave@webdna.us archives: = http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 = Bug Reporting: = support@webdna.us > --------------------------------------------------------- This message = is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list = talk@webdna.us To unsubscribe, E-mail to: talk-leave@webdna.us archives: = http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 Bug Reporting: = support@webdna.us --Apple-Mail=_9C5C0F60-4C2E-447F-BD50-2F7D107DB730 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 How long time does it take before your 500 error appear?

FcgidIOTimeout is set to = 40 seconds as default in Apache 2.5.

Best,
Christer

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13 dec. 2017 kl. 15:25 skrev Lawrence Banahan <banahan.l@gmail.com>:

This morning I wrote a dirty script to summ the result by = making a new DB and searching this db before adding a new line...
And I still add a crash, so memery problem... Maby not, = we all have been thinking of Webdna, Ram etc, but a 500 answer isn't it = a Apache error?
I realised that this new db was = still getting written after this 500 error and I did get the right data = in my db after all...
So isn't it in apache that I = should setup a Timeout or KeepAlive On or so one?
Not = sure how to set this up...

2017-12-13= 0:59 GMT+01:00 Brian Harrington <autoglasswny@gmail.com>:
LMAO... maybe that's why the cable company makes u reboot = first thing! my current server 2006 mac pro 32BG 2X 3GHZ dual cores =  0 raid on 4 X2TB HDD's... 

 trying to speed load times on my = heavy dynamic site classifieds.today that does not "mirror" but takes = on any domain like it's own like http://scottsclassifieds.com/ or the = 20 other current domains have pointing that way.... bought an upgraded = 12 core 2.66 w/64 GB ram and turned out not much better and was actually = slower to serve my less complicated sites! I thought maybe it was the = builder so picked up 12 core 3.46! 128GB ram and 1TB SSD and 8TB 0 RAID = and same slow results! HUH  (Both R for sale anyone = interested)

Don't get this 6GB's they claim. When they go on to tell you = best read/writes are 500/mb's...???!!! 
  =  The so claimed PCIe SSD is now used to drop files (backups) on and = I really don't see it any faster than the IDE I put in my CD slot! Takes = 10 seconds either one on a drag-n-drop! LOL

Glad you have it fixed... now we can = all rest! LOL

On Tue, = Dec 12, 2017 at 6:05 PM, <dbrooke@euca.us> wrote:
Sorry, I probably missed this in all the emails, = but did you state your server info?

WebDNA Version
Operating System

Can you post the results of 'free' and 'df -h' from the commandline?

Donovan



On 2017-12-12 12:02, Lawrence Banahan wrote:
I have "only" 16 Gb Ram, I also had that with V6, so it looks like
V8.5 needs more Ram...

 2017-12-12 18:41 GMT+01:00 Brian Fries <iphonzie@gmail.com [31]>:

I ran with your numbers and it worked fine for me. I bumped them up
to 535000 and 510000, and I got the =E2=80=9C500 Internal Server = Error=E2=80=9D

So, it looks like an available RAM issue, as you said, with my limit
higher than yours due to different system configuration.

- Brian Fries

On Dec 12, 2017, at 9:26 AM, Lawrence Banahan <banahan.l@gmail.com
 [18]> wrote:

Thanks for this test Brian,
I tested it with your code and everything works fine.
http://www.tourismethaifr.com/admin/testdb.tpl [19]

I have tested with the same amount of data 135 000 like in my DB
and then it crash...
http://www.tourismethaifr.com/admin/testdb2.tpl [20]

[closedatabase test.db]
[writefile test.db]_email
[/writefile]
[loop start=3D1&end=3D135000][append
db=3Dtest.db]_email=3Dtest[math]floor([random
 format=3Dfloat]*110000)[/math]@example.com [21][/append][/loop]
[search db=3Dtest.db&ne_emaildata=3DFIND_ALL] = [numfound]
raw[/search]<br>
[search db=3Dtest.db&ne_emaildata=3DFIND_ALL&_emailSUMM=3DT] [numfound]
summarized[/search]

Maybe somthing to do with RAM... Server...
I have rebooted it!
 The db is 3mb, it shouldnt be an issuu...

It was already running on the same server...

 2017-12-12 18:01 GMT+01:00 Brian Fries <iphonzie@gmail.com [22]>:

Here is a test that should determine whether it is a database
content problem:

[closedatabase test.db]
[writefile test.db]_email
[/writefile]
[loop start=3D1&end=3D15000][append
db=3Dtest.db]_email=3Dtest[math]floor([random
 format=3Dfloat]*10000)[/math]@example.com [12][/append][/loop]
[search db=3Dtest.db&ne_emaildata=3DFIND_ALL] = [numfound]
raw[/search]<br>
[search db=3Dtest.db&ne_emaildata=3DFIND_ALL&_emailSUMM=3DT]
[numfound] summarized[/search]

This will create a database named =E2=80=9Ctest.db=E2=80=9D with one = field -
=E2=80=9C_email=E2=80=9D, then add 15000 records with _email set to a = value
 like "test6746@example.com [13]=E2=80=9D, where the numeric = portion is
a random integer from zero to 9999, so there will be duplicates.

In my test on a linux server running WebDNA 8.5.1, it works
= fine, with the raw results returning 15000 records, and the
= summarized results varying from one run to the next, usually
around 7800 unique values.

My guess would be that this will work fine for you as well, and
that there is some data in the real database that WebDNA is
= choking on when running the SUMM comparisons. I this is the
= case, then the next step would be to split the real data into
smaller subsets and run the test on those until you can isolate
what data is causing WebDNA problems. Then Chris will have
something specific to fix.

- Brian Fries

On Dec 12, 2017, at 7:28 AM, Brian Harrington
 <autoglasswny@gmail.com [6]> wrote:

exactly what Ive been saying... you all keep your little code
a secret and NO resource on the website,  same site for 12
years! yelp... just checked "search" on "sort" NO REF THERE!

So we all need to take notes...?

On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 12:04 PM, Kenneth Grome
 <ken@webdnasolutions.com [7]> wrote:

I see two problems with
>
> complex sort example:
> &email*S*sort=3D1&emailsdir=3Das
> (should be &emailsort=3D1&emailsdir=3Das)

I already corrected this typo in a later post ... :)

> simple sort example:
> &*as*emailsort=3D1
> (should be &emailsort=3D1)

No it should not!

 Youre saying this because you do not know how to write
simpler
sort code.  And thats why I posted this example ... so you
and
Lawrence (and anyone else who does not know this) might
learn how
to do it.

Regards,
Kenneth Grome
WebDNA Solutions
http://www.webdnasolutions.com [1]
Web Database Systems and Linux Server Administration

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