Re: [WebDNA] lighttpd problem with returnraw http header

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2018


It keeps the original formatting.
numero = 113981
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texte = 1581 --f403045dbfde0dc0d805655ec8cb Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm with you Ken! LOL can't blame him as I just googled lighthttp and they selling it as "lighttpd is an open-source web server optimized for speed-critical environments while remaining standards-compliant, secure and flexible. Wikipedia "" Stable release : 1.4.48 (November 11, 2017; 3 months ago).... ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= --------------------------------------- People read this and think they have a "speed-critical" "compliant" server that is easy to setup! Easy never taught anyone anything! LOL On Fri, Feb 16, 2018 at 1:43 PM, Kenneth Grome wrote: > > Yeah I know, apache, older versions, etc=E2=80=A6 There are solutions > > but that does not solve the problem or answer my question. > > Noah, > > Any time a person chooses to be a 'pioneer' by doing something > different from most everyone else -- such as using lighttpd when > practically everyone else uses apache -- he will also have to find > his own answers and solve his own problems when things don't work > the way he wants or expects them to. > > You took a first step in this process by asking about your > problems on a WebDNA talk list. So far you've received a simple > suggestion that would easily resolve all your error page issues > (revert back to the previous lighttpd version) but you're > apparently unwilling to consider this option. Nor have you > suggested that you'd be willing to switch to apache where no one > complains about your issues. > > Apparently this leaves you with no other alternative than to use > WebDNA differently than in the previous version of lighttpd ... > and hope that it can produce most of the results you were getting > before the upgrade ... > > > > It has all worked fine till lighttpd 1.4.45, now with 1.4.46 > > something changed: Now it works kinda for 404,301,302. It does > > not with 200 (I get 2 headers in the http response, only the > > first is used, the second is shown as plain text, but then the > > content-length is not correct=E2=80=A6 - idk). Also 401: The server > > answers with a 401 but does not deliver my html-error-page but > > delivers the standard html =E2=80=9C401 - Unauthorized=E2=80=9D... > > From your description here it would seem that lighttpd 1.4.46 > ignores WebDNA when someone is "Unauthorized" to access a page. > Instead lighttpd responds directly to the browser with its own 401 > errors. In this situation the use of WebDNA's ErrorMessages.db > will not fix the problem because WebDNA is not invoked. So unless > you can figure out how to configure lighttpd to send these > requests to WebDNA, or modify lighttpd's default Unauthorized > error page to make it respond the way you want, you're stuck with > these 401 errors as they currently exist. > > The problem you described with two headers in 200 responses may be > caused by lighttpd creating one of those headers and WebDNA > creating the other one, or maybe WebDNA is creating both. Either > way it seems that WebDNA is being invoked on these page requests, > which also suggests that you may be able to use WebDNA's > post-processing feature to find and remove the unwanted header. > > I don't know what "kinda works" means for your 404, 301 and 302 > pages, but I think you've been given pretty much all the info > you'll need in order to try to make WebDNA resolve most of your > problems without reverting to an earlier version of lighttpd or > replacing it with apache. > > Good luck! > > Regards, > Kenneth Grome > WebDNA Solutions > http://www.webdnasolutions.com > Web Database Systems and Linux Server Administration > --------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list talk@webdna.us > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: talk-leave@webdna.us > archives: http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 > Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us > --f403045dbfde0dc0d805655ec8cb Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I'm with you Ken! LOL can't blame him as I just go= ogled lighthttp and they selling it as "lighttpd is an ope= n-source web server optimized for speed-critical environments while remaini= ng standards-compliant, secure and flexible.=C2=A0

On Fri, Feb 16, 2018 at 1:43 PM, Ken= neth Grome <ken@webdnasolutions.com> wrote:
> Yeah I know, apache, older ve= rsions, etc=E2=80=A6 There are solutions
> but that does not solve the problem or answer my question.

Noah,

Any time a person chooses to be a 'pioneer' by doing something
different from most everyone else -- such as using lighttpd when
practically everyone else uses apache -- he will also have to find
his own answers and solve his own problems when things don't work
the way he wants or expects them to.

You took a first step in this process by asking about your
problems on a WebDNA talk list.=C2=A0 So far you've received a simple suggestion that would easily resolve all your error page issues
(revert back to the previous lighttpd version) but you're
apparently unwilling to consider this option.=C2=A0 Nor have you
suggested that you'd be willing to switch to apache where no one
complains about your issues.

Apparently this leaves you with no other alternative than to use
WebDNA differently than in the previous version of lighttpd ...
and hope that it can produce most of the results you were getting
before the upgrade ...


> It has all worked fine till lighttpd 1.4.45, now with 1.4.46
> something changed: Now it works kinda for 404,301,302. It does
> not with 200 (I get 2 headers in the http response, only the
> first is used, the second is shown as plain text, but then the
> content-length is not correct=E2=80=A6 - idk). Also 401: The server > answers with a 401 but does not deliver my html-error-page but
> delivers the standard html =E2=80=9C401 - Unauthorized=E2=80=9D...

From your description here it would seem that lighttpd 1.4.46
ignores WebDNA when someone is "Unauthorized" to access a page. Instead lighttpd responds directly to the browser with its own 401
errors.=C2=A0 In this situation the use of WebDNA's ErrorMessages.db will not fix the problem because WebDNA is not invoked.=C2=A0 So unless
you can figure out how to configure lighttpd to send these
requests to WebDNA, or modify lighttpd's default Unauthorized
error page to make it respond the way you want, you're stuck with
these 401 errors as they currently exist.

The problem you described with two headers in 200 responses may be
caused by lighttpd creating one of those headers and WebDNA
creating the other one, or maybe WebDNA is creating both.=C2=A0 Either
way it seems that WebDNA is being invoked on these page requests,
which also suggests that you may be able to use WebDNA's
post-processing feature to find and remove the unwanted header.

I don't know what "kinda works" means for your 404, 301 and 3= 02
pages, but I think you've been given pretty much all the info
you'll need in order to try to make WebDNA resolve most of your
problems without reverting to an earlier version of lighttpd or
replacing it with apache.

Good luck!

Regards,
Kenneth Grome
WebDNA Solutions
http://www.webdnasolutions.com
Web Database Systems and Linux Server Administration
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  1. Re: [WebDNA] lighttpd problem with returnraw http header (Brian Harrington 2018)
  2. Re: [WebDNA] lighttpd problem with returnraw http header (Kenneth Grome 2018)
  3. Re: [WebDNA] lighttpd problem with returnraw http header (Noah Valley 2018)
  4. Re: [WebDNA] lighttpd problem with returnraw http header (Stuart Tremain 2018)
  5. Re: [WebDNA] lighttpd problem with returnraw http header (Kenneth Grome 2018)
  6. [WebDNA] lighttpd problem with returnraw http header (Noah Valley 2018)
1581 --f403045dbfde0dc0d805655ec8cb Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm with you Ken! LOL can't blame him as I just googled lighthttp and they selling it as "lighttpd is an open-source web server optimized for speed-critical environments while remaining standards-compliant, secure and flexible. Wikipedia "" Stable release : 1.4.48 (November 11, 2017; 3 months ago).... ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= --------------------------------------- People read this and think they have a "speed-critical" "compliant" server that is easy to setup! Easy never taught anyone anything! LOL On Fri, Feb 16, 2018 at 1:43 PM, Kenneth Grome wrote: > > Yeah I know, apache, older versions, etc=E2=80=A6 There are solutions > > but that does not solve the problem or answer my question. > > Noah, > > Any time a person chooses to be a 'pioneer' by doing something > different from most everyone else -- such as using lighttpd when > practically everyone else uses apache -- he will also have to find > his own answers and solve his own problems when things don't work > the way he wants or expects them to. > > You took a first step in this process by asking about your > problems on a WebDNA Talk List. So far you've received a simple > suggestion that would easily resolve all your error page issues > (revert back to the previous lighttpd version) but you're > apparently unwilling to consider this option. Nor have you > suggested that you'd be willing to switch to apache where no one > complains about your issues. > > Apparently this leaves you with no other alternative than to use > WebDNA differently than in the previous version of lighttpd ... > and hope that it can produce most of the results you were getting > before the upgrade ... > > > > It has all worked fine till lighttpd 1.4.45, now with 1.4.46 > > something changed: Now it works kinda for 404,301,302. It does > > not with 200 (I get 2 headers in the http response, only the > > first is used, the second is shown as plain text, but then the > > content-length is not correct=E2=80=A6 - idk). Also 401: The server > > answers with a 401 but does not deliver my html-error-page but > > delivers the standard html =E2=80=9C401 - Unauthorized=E2=80=9D... > > From your description here it would seem that lighttpd 1.4.46 > ignores WebDNA when someone is "Unauthorized" to access a page. > Instead lighttpd responds directly to the browser with its own 401 > errors. In this situation the use of WebDNA's ErrorMessages.db > will not fix the problem because WebDNA is not invoked. So unless > you can figure out how to configure lighttpd to send these > requests to WebDNA, or modify lighttpd's default Unauthorized > error page to make it respond the way you want, you're stuck with > these 401 errors as they currently exist. > > The problem you described with two headers in 200 responses may be > caused by lighttpd creating one of those headers and WebDNA > creating the other one, or maybe WebDNA is creating both. Either > way it seems that WebDNA is being invoked on these page requests, > which also suggests that you may be able to use WebDNA's > post-processing feature to find and remove the unwanted header. > > I don't know what "kinda works" means for your 404, 301 and 302 > pages, but I think you've been given pretty much all the info > you'll need in order to try to make WebDNA resolve most of your > problems without reverting to an earlier version of lighttpd or > replacing it with apache. > > Good luck! > > Regards, > Kenneth Grome > WebDNA Solutions > http://www.webdnasolutions.com > Web Database Systems and Linux Server Administration > --------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list talk@webdna.us > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: talk-leave@webdna.us > archives: http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 > Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us > --f403045dbfde0dc0d805655ec8cb Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I'm with you Ken! LOL can't blame him as I just go= ogled lighthttp and they selling it as "lighttpd is an ope= n-source web server optimized for speed-critical environments while remaini= ng standards-compliant, secure and flexible.=C2=A0

On Fri, Feb 16, 2018 at 1:43 PM, Ken= neth Grome <ken@webdnasolutions.com> wrote:
> Yeah I know, apache, older ve= rsions, etc=E2=80=A6 There are solutions
> but that does not solve the problem or answer my question.

Noah,

Any time a person chooses to be a 'pioneer' by doing something
different from most everyone else -- such as using lighttpd when
practically everyone else uses apache -- he will also have to find
his own answers and solve his own problems when things don't work
the way he wants or expects them to.

You took a first step in this process by asking about your
problems on a WebDNA Talk List.=C2=A0 So far you've received a simple suggestion that would easily resolve all your error page issues
(revert back to the previous lighttpd version) but you're
apparently unwilling to consider this option.=C2=A0 Nor have you
suggested that you'd be willing to switch to apache where no one
complains about your issues.

Apparently this leaves you with no other alternative than to use
WebDNA differently than in the previous version of lighttpd ...
and hope that it can produce most of the results you were getting
before the upgrade ...


> It has all worked fine till lighttpd 1.4.45, now with 1.4.46
> something changed: Now it works kinda for 404,301,302. It does
> not with 200 (I get 2 headers in the http response, only the
> first is used, the second is shown as plain text, but then the
> content-length is not correct=E2=80=A6 - idk). Also 401: The server > answers with a 401 but does not deliver my html-error-page but
> delivers the standard html =E2=80=9C401 - Unauthorized=E2=80=9D...

From your description here it would seem that lighttpd 1.4.46
ignores WebDNA when someone is "Unauthorized" to access a page. Instead lighttpd responds directly to the browser with its own 401
errors.=C2=A0 In this situation the use of WebDNA's ErrorMessages.db will not fix the problem because WebDNA is not invoked.=C2=A0 So unless
you can figure out how to configure lighttpd to send these
requests to WebDNA, or modify lighttpd's default Unauthorized
error page to make it respond the way you want, you're stuck with
these 401 errors as they currently exist.

The problem you described with two headers in 200 responses may be
caused by lighttpd creating one of those headers and WebDNA
creating the other one, or maybe WebDNA is creating both.=C2=A0 Either
way it seems that WebDNA is being invoked on these page requests,
which also suggests that you may be able to use WebDNA's
post-processing feature to find and remove the unwanted header.

I don't know what "kinda works" means for your 404, 301 and 3= 02
pages, but I think you've been given pretty much all the info
you'll need in order to try to make WebDNA resolve most of your
problems without reverting to an earlier version of lighttpd or
replacing it with apache.

Good luck!

Regards,
Kenneth Grome
WebDNA Solutions
http://www.webdnasolutions.com
Web Database Systems and Linux Server Administration
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