Re: [BULK] Re: [WebDNA] Cloud Server install notes - Ubuntu 14.04

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texte = 1653 --f403045e1e3e3e1e1905672dfa8e Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I love when they start with "USE AT YOUR OWN RISK" and "Once upon a time" lmao... I like when u just need to click the app to install... LOL On Sun, Mar 11, 2018 at 11:06 PM, WJ Starck, DDS wrote: > Man, Stuart I think you must have read my mind =F0=9F=98=82 > > I jumping up and down whilst reading your last post, and now this. Genius= ! > > Now I=E2=80=99m a diehard Mac guy from the early 90=E2=80=99s, but the re= ality is that > Apple has lost interest in the server market, first killing off the > hardware side (anyone remember the Xserve and Xserve RAID?) > > I really have no idea why they even fiddle with a server product these > days to be honest. > > I absolutely love linode vps=E2=80=99s, Ubuntu and lighttpd. I can clone = a linode > in under a minute, or spin up a fresh one *with my OS of choice* already > pre-installed. I can choose how beefy I want my connection and processor = to > be, and can upgrade/downgrade that at any point in the future as my needs > change. > > Gone are the days of the hot, noisy server room (and the costly real > estate it occupied), failing drives, power outages, and my whole setup > breaking because Apple decided on a whim that fridgit X should now be in > directory Y, well just because > > Ugggh. Just thinking about it gives me PTSD =F0=9F=98=82 > > > William J. Starck, DDS > 760 Keller Smithfield > Road > Keller, TX 76248 > 817-800-9634 <(817)%20800-9634> > > > On Mar 11, 2018, at 5:24 PM, Stuart Tremain wrote: > > USE AT YOUR OWN RISK > > I will NOT provide any support for this. > > > If anyone is interested, I have below, included my install notes for a > BASIC Ubuntu/WebMin/WebDNA installation, from memory it should take about > 30 minutes. > > Head over to linode.com one Sunday afternoon and get a $5 instance, you > could play around with it for the afternoon and then trash it - spending > less than the price of a cup of coffee. > > There is a note about a different WebDNA exe in the notes, this is > something that Chris sent me some time back - sorry but I don=E2=80=99t k= now what > makes it different, maybe Chris will read this and explain and/or offer t= he > different exe as a download. > > https://www.linode.com/pricing > > You will need to SSH into the linode instance and do the following: > > > > > > ## =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > FIX FOR apt-get update: If apt-get update gets stuck, you will need to > edit /etc/gai.conf > This will allow you to still use IPv6 but sets IPv4 as the precedence so > that apt-get won=E2=80=99t get stuck. > ## =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > sudo nano /etc/gai.conf > > # change line ~54 to uncomment the following: > # precedence ::ffff:0:0/96 100 > # Exit & save > > ## =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > DO apt-get update > ## =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > apt-get update > > ## =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > INSTALL APACHE2 > ## =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > sudo apt-get install apache2 > sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart > > ## =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > CHECK INSTALLATION > ## =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > browse to your server: > http://xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx/ > > You should see the Apache default page. > > ## =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > ## INSTALL WebDNA Server 8.2 for Ubuntu 14.04 LTS: > ## http://www.webdna.us/ > ## =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > > wget -qO - http://deb.webdna.us/ubuntu14/webdna.key | sudo apt-key add - > echo "deb [arch=3Damd64] http://deb.webdna.us/ubuntu14 trusty non-free" > >>/etc/apt/sources.list > apt-get update > apt-get install libapache2-mod-webdna=3D8.2 > > # The following extra packages will be installed: > # libmysqlclient18 mysql-common > # The following NEW packages will be installed: > # libapache2-mod-webdna libmysqlclient18 mysql-common > > # Now set permissions must be "root"" > cd /usr/lib/cgi-bin/ > chown -R www-data:www-data WebCatalogEngine > chmod -R 755 WebCatalogEngine > > ## =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > DO A SYSTEM REBOOT NOW > ## =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > reboot -h now > > ## =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > CHECK INSTALLATION > ## =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > browse to your server: > http://xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx/ > > You should see the Apache default page. > > Now try: (note case sensitivity) > http://xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx/WebCatalog > > You should see the WebDNA welcome page, try to enter a serial number. > > ## =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > # There may be an issue "Sorry, the WebDNA engine has reached its > connection limit." when entering serial. > # If this is the case you need to install different exe. Dropbox > WebDNA > > WebCatalog 8.2 for Ubuntu 14.04 > # Replace WebCatalog exe making sure to keep permissions: > cd /usr/lib/cgi-bin/ > chown -R www-data:www-data WebCatalogEngine > chmod -R 755 WebCatalogEngine > # reboot and try again > ## =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > > > > > ## =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > ## INSTALL WEBMIN > ## =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list > > # Now press Ctrl-W then Ctrl-V to navigate to the end of the file, then > add the following lines to the file: > deb http://download.webmin.com/download/repository sarge contrib > deb http://webmin.mirror.somersettechsolutions.co.uk/repository sarge > contrib > # When you are finished editing, save the file by pressing Ctrl-X, then y= , > RETURN. > > wget -q http://www.webmin.com/jcameron-key.asc -O- | sudo apt-key add - > sudo apt-get update > sudo apt-get install webmin > > ## =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > DO A SYSTEM REBOOT NOW > ## =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > > > > > > > > > > > > Kind regards > > Stuart Tremain > Pharoah Lane Software > AUSTRALIA > webdna@idfk.com.au > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------- This message is > sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list talk@webdna.us > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: talk-leave@webdna.us archives: > http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 Bug Reporting: support@webdna.u= s > > --------------------------------------------------------- This message is > sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list talk@webdna.us > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: talk-leave@webdna.us archives: > http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 Bug Reporting: support@webdna.u= s > --f403045e1e3e3e1e1905672dfa8e Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I love when they start with "USE AT YOUR OWN RISK" and =C2=A0"Once upon a time" l= mao...=C2=A0
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I li= ke when u just need to click the app to install... LOL

On Sun, Mar 11, 201= 8 at 11:06 PM, WJ Starck, DDS <wjs@drstarck.com> wrote:
Man, Stuart I think you must= have read my mind =F0=9F=98=82

I jumping up and down wh= ilst reading your last post, and now this. Genius!

Now I=E2=80=99m a diehard Mac guy from the early 90=E2=80=99s, but the rea= lity is that Apple has lost interest in the server market, first killing of= f the hardware side (anyone remember the Xserve and Xserve RAID?)

=C2=A0I really have no idea why they even fiddle with a ser= ver product these days to be honest.

I absolutely = love linode vps=E2=80=99s, Ubuntu and lighttpd. I can clone a linode in und= er a minute, or spin up a fresh one *with my OS of choice* already pre-inst= alled. I can choose how beefy I want my connection and processor to be, and= can upgrade/downgrade that at any point in the future as my needs change.<= /div>

Gone are the days of the hot, noisy server room (a= nd the costly real estate it occupied), failing drives, power outages, and = my whole setup breaking because Apple decided on a whim that fridgit X shou= ld now be in directory Y, well just because

=C2=A0= Ugggh. Just thinking about it gives me PTSD =F0=9F=98=82


William J. Starck, DDS
760 Keller=C2=A0Smi= thfield Road
Keller, TX 76248
<= div>

On Mar 11, 2018, at 5:2= 4 PM, Stuart Tremain <webdna@idfk.com.au> wrote:

USE AT YOUR OWN RISK

I will NOT provide any sup= port for this.


If anyone is interes= ted, I have below, included my install notes for a BASIC Ubuntu/WebMin/WebD= NA installation, from memory it should take about 30 minutes.
Head over to li= node.com one Sunday afternoon and get a $5 instance, you could play aro= und with it for the afternoon and then trash it - spending less than the pr= ice of a cup of coffee.

There is a note about a di= fferent WebDNA exe in the notes, this is something that Chris sent me some = time back - sorry but I don=E2=80=99t know what makes it different, maybe C= hris will read this and explain and/or offer the different exe as a downloa= d.


Y= ou will need to SSH into the linode instance and do the following:





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FIX FOR apt-get update: If apt-get update gets stuck, you wil= l need to edit /etc/gai.conf
This will allow you to still use IPv= 6 but sets IPv4 as the precedence so that apt-get won=E2=80=99t get stuck.<= /div>
## =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D
sudo nano /etc/gai.conf

# change = line ~54 to uncomment the following:
# precedence ::ffff:0:0/96 = =C2=A0100
# Exit & save

## =3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
DO apt-g= et update
## =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
apt-get update

## =3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
INSTA= LL APACHE2
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sudo apt-get install apache2
sudo /etc/= init.d/apache2 restart

## =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
CHECK INSTALLATION
## =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D
browse to your server:

<= div>You should see the Apache default page.

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##= INSTALL WebDNA Server 8.2 for Ubuntu 14.04 LTS: =C2=A0
## http://www.webdna.us/
## =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D

wget -qO - http://deb.webdna.us/ubuntu14/webd= na.key | sudo apt-key add -
echo "deb [arch=3Damd64] http://deb.webdna.= us/ubuntu14 trusty non-free" >>/etc/apt/sources.list
apt-get update
apt-get install libapache2-mod-webdna=3D8.2

# The following extra packages will be installed:
# libmysqlclient18 mysql-common
# The following NEW packag= es will be installed:
# libapache2-mod-webdna libmysqlclient18 my= sql-common

# Now set permissions must be "roo= t""
cd /usr/lib/cgi-bin/
chown -R www-data:ww= w-data WebCatalogEngine
chmod -R 755 WebCatalogEngine
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DO A SYSTEM REBOOT NOW
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reboot -h now

## =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
CHECK INSTALLATION
## =3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
browse to y= our server:

You should see the Ap= ache default page.

Now try: (note case sensitivity= )

You sh= ould see the WebDNA welcome page, try to enter a serial number.
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# There may be an issue "Sorry, the WebDNA engine = has reached its connection limit." when entering serial.
# I= f this is the case you need to install different exe. Dropbox > WebDNA &= gt; WebCatalog 8.2 for Ubuntu 14.04
# Replace WebCatalog exe maki= ng sure to keep permissions:
cd /usr/lib/cgi-bin/
chown= -R www-data:www-data WebCatalogEngine
chmod -R 755 WebCatalogEng= ine
# reboot and try again
## =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D




## =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
## INSTALL WEBMIN
## = =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list

# Now press Ctrl-= W then Ctrl-V to navigate to the end of the file, then add the following li= nes to the file:
=
# When you are finished editing, save the file by pressing Ctrl-X, the= n y, RETURN.

wget -q http://www.webmin.com/jcameron= -key.asc -O- | sudo apt-key add -
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install webmin

## =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
DO A SYSTEM RE= BOOT NOW
## =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D











<= div>
Kind regards

Stuart Tremain
Pha= roah Lane Software
AUSTRALIA




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1653 --f403045e1e3e3e1e1905672dfa8e Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I love when they start with "USE AT YOUR OWN RISK" and "Once upon a time" lmao... I like when u just need to click the app to install... LOL On Sun, Mar 11, 2018 at 11:06 PM, WJ Starck, DDS wrote: > Man, Stuart I think you must have read my mind =F0=9F=98=82 > > I jumping up and down whilst reading your last post, and now this. Genius= ! > > Now I=E2=80=99m a diehard Mac guy from the early 90=E2=80=99s, but the re= ality is that > Apple has lost interest in the server market, first killing off the > hardware side (anyone remember the Xserve and Xserve RAID?) > > I really have no idea why they even fiddle with a server product these > days to be honest. > > I absolutely love linode vps=E2=80=99s, Ubuntu and lighttpd. I can clone = a linode > in under a minute, or spin up a fresh one *with my OS of choice* already > pre-installed. I can choose how beefy I want my connection and processor = to > be, and can upgrade/downgrade that at any point in the future as my needs > change. > > Gone are the days of the hot, noisy server room (and the costly real > estate it occupied), failing drives, power outages, and my whole setup > breaking because Apple decided on a whim that fridgit X should now be in > directory Y, well just because > > Ugggh. Just thinking about it gives me PTSD =F0=9F=98=82 > > > William J. Starck, DDS > 760 Keller Smithfield > Road > Keller, TX 76248 > 817-800-9634 <(817)%20800-9634> > > > On Mar 11, 2018, at 5:24 PM, Stuart Tremain wrote: > > USE AT YOUR OWN RISK > > I will NOT provide any support for this. > > > If anyone is interested, I have below, included my install notes for a > BASIC Ubuntu/WebMin/WebDNA installation, from memory it should take about > 30 minutes. > > Head over to linode.com one Sunday afternoon and get a $5 instance, you > could play around with it for the afternoon and then trash it - spending > less than the price of a cup of coffee. > > There is a note about a different WebDNA exe in the notes, this is > something that Chris sent me some time back - sorry but I don=E2=80=99t k= now what > makes it different, maybe Chris will read this and explain and/or offer t= he > different exe as a download. > > https://www.linode.com/pricing > > You will need to SSH into the linode instance and do the following: > > > > > > ## =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > FIX FOR apt-get update: If apt-get update gets stuck, you will need to > edit /etc/gai.conf > This will allow you to still use IPv6 but sets IPv4 as the precedence so > that apt-get won=E2=80=99t get stuck. > ## =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > sudo nano /etc/gai.conf > > # change line ~54 to uncomment the following: > # precedence ::ffff:0:0/96 100 > # Exit & save > > ## =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > DO apt-get update > ## =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > apt-get update > > ## =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > INSTALL APACHE2 > ## =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > sudo apt-get install apache2 > sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart > > ## =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > CHECK INSTALLATION > ## =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > browse to your server: > http://xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx/ > > You should see the Apache default page. > > ## =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > ## INSTALL WebDNA Server 8.2 for Ubuntu 14.04 LTS: > ## http://www.webdna.us/ > ## =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > > wget -qO - http://deb.webdna.us/ubuntu14/webdna.key | sudo apt-key add - > echo "deb [arch=3Damd64] http://deb.webdna.us/ubuntu14 trusty non-free" > >>/etc/apt/sources.list > apt-get update > apt-get install libapache2-mod-webdna=3D8.2 > > # The following extra packages will be installed: > # libmysqlclient18 mysql-common > # The following NEW packages will be installed: > # libapache2-mod-webdna libmysqlclient18 mysql-common > > # Now set permissions must be "root"" > cd /usr/lib/cgi-bin/ > chown -R www-data:www-data WebCatalogEngine > chmod -R 755 WebCatalogEngine > > ## =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > DO A SYSTEM REBOOT NOW > ## =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > reboot -h now > > ## =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > CHECK INSTALLATION > ## =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > browse to your server: > http://xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx/ > > You should see the Apache default page. > > Now try: (note case sensitivity) > http://xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx/WebCatalog > > You should see the WebDNA welcome page, try to enter a serial number. > > ## =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > # There may be an issue "Sorry, the WebDNA engine has reached its > connection limit." when entering serial. > # If this is the case you need to install different exe. Dropbox > WebDNA > > WebCatalog 8.2 for Ubuntu 14.04 > # Replace WebCatalog exe making sure to keep permissions: > cd /usr/lib/cgi-bin/ > chown -R www-data:www-data WebCatalogEngine > chmod -R 755 WebCatalogEngine > # reboot and try again > ## =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > > > > > ## =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > ## INSTALL WEBMIN > ## =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list > > # Now press Ctrl-W then Ctrl-V to navigate to the end of the file, then > add the following lines to the file: > deb http://download.webmin.com/download/repository sarge contrib > deb http://webmin.mirror.somersettechsolutions.co.uk/repository sarge > contrib > # When you are finished editing, save the file by pressing Ctrl-X, then y= , > RETURN. > > wget -q http://www.webmin.com/jcameron-key.asc -O- | sudo apt-key add - > sudo apt-get update > sudo apt-get install webmin > > ## =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > DO A SYSTEM REBOOT NOW > ## =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > > > > > > > > > > > > Kind regards > > Stuart Tremain > Pharoah Lane Software > AUSTRALIA > webdna@idfk.com.au > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------- This message is > sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list talk@webdna.us > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: talk-leave@webdna.us archives: > http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 Bug Reporting: support@webdna.u= s > > --------------------------------------------------------- This message is > sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list talk@webdna.us > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: talk-leave@webdna.us archives: > http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 Bug Reporting: support@webdna.u= s > --f403045e1e3e3e1e1905672dfa8e Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I love when they start with "USE AT YOUR OWN RISK" and =C2=A0"Once upon a time" l= mao...=C2=A0
<= br>
I li= ke when u just need to click the app to install... LOL

On Sun, Mar 11, 201= 8 at 11:06 PM, WJ Starck, DDS <wjs@drstarck.com> wrote:
Man, Stuart I think you must= have read my mind =F0=9F=98=82

I jumping up and down wh= ilst reading your last post, and now this. Genius!

Now I=E2=80=99m a diehard Mac guy from the early 90=E2=80=99s, but the rea= lity is that Apple has lost interest in the server market, first killing of= f the hardware side (anyone remember the Xserve and Xserve RAID?)

=C2=A0I really have no idea why they even fiddle with a ser= ver product these days to be honest.

I absolutely = love linode vps=E2=80=99s, Ubuntu and lighttpd. I can clone a linode in und= er a minute, or spin up a fresh one *with my OS of choice* already pre-inst= alled. I can choose how beefy I want my connection and processor to be, and= can upgrade/downgrade that at any point in the future as my needs change.<= /div>

Gone are the days of the hot, noisy server room (a= nd the costly real estate it occupied), failing drives, power outages, and = my whole setup breaking because Apple decided on a whim that fridgit X shou= ld now be in directory Y, well just because

=C2=A0= Ugggh. Just thinking about it gives me PTSD =F0=9F=98=82


William J. Starck, DDS
760 Keller=C2=A0Smi= thfield Road
Keller, TX 76248
<= div>

On Mar 11, 2018, at 5:2= 4 PM, Stuart Tremain <webdna@idfk.com.au> wrote:

USE AT YOUR OWN RISK

I will NOT provide any sup= port for this.


If anyone is interes= ted, I have below, included my install notes for a BASIC Ubuntu/WebMin/WebD= NA installation, from memory it should take about 30 minutes.
Head over to li= node.com one Sunday afternoon and get a $5 instance, you could play aro= und with it for the afternoon and then trash it - spending less than the pr= ice of a cup of coffee.

There is a note about a di= fferent WebDNA exe in the notes, this is something that Chris sent me some = time back - sorry but I don=E2=80=99t know what makes it different, maybe C= hris will read this and explain and/or offer the different exe as a downloa= d.


Y= ou will need to SSH into the linode instance and do the following:





## =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D
FIX FOR apt-get update: If apt-get update gets stuck, you wil= l need to edit /etc/gai.conf
This will allow you to still use IPv= 6 but sets IPv4 as the precedence so that apt-get won=E2=80=99t get stuck.<= /div>
## =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D
sudo nano /etc/gai.conf

# change = line ~54 to uncomment the following:
# precedence ::ffff:0:0/96 = =C2=A0100
# Exit & save

## =3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
DO apt-g= et update
## =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
apt-get update

## =3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
INSTA= LL APACHE2
## =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
sudo apt-get install apache2
sudo /etc/= init.d/apache2 restart

## =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
CHECK INSTALLATION
## =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D
browse to your server:

<= div>You should see the Apache default page.

## =3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
##= INSTALL WebDNA Server 8.2 for Ubuntu 14.04 LTS: =C2=A0
## http://www.webdna.us/
## =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D

wget -qO - http://deb.webdna.us/ubuntu14/webd= na.key | sudo apt-key add -
echo "deb [arch=3Damd64] http://deb.webdna.= us/ubuntu14 trusty non-free" >>/etc/apt/sources.list
apt-get update
apt-get install libapache2-mod-webdna=3D8.2

# The following extra packages will be installed:
# libmysqlclient18 mysql-common
# The following NEW packag= es will be installed:
# libapache2-mod-webdna libmysqlclient18 my= sql-common

# Now set permissions must be "roo= t""
cd /usr/lib/cgi-bin/
chown -R www-data:ww= w-data WebCatalogEngine
chmod -R 755 WebCatalogEngine
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## =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D
DO A SYSTEM REBOOT NOW
## =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
reboot -h now

## =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
CHECK INSTALLATION
## =3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
browse to y= our server:

You should see the Ap= ache default page.

Now try: (note case sensitivity= )

You sh= ould see the WebDNA welcome page, try to enter a serial number.
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## =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D
# There may be an issue "Sorry, the WebDNA engine = has reached its connection limit." when entering serial.
# I= f this is the case you need to install different exe. Dropbox > WebDNA &= gt; WebCatalog 8.2 for Ubuntu 14.04
# Replace WebCatalog exe maki= ng sure to keep permissions:
cd /usr/lib/cgi-bin/
chown= -R www-data:www-data WebCatalogEngine
chmod -R 755 WebCatalogEng= ine
# reboot and try again
## =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D




## =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
## INSTALL WEBMIN
## = =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list

# Now press Ctrl-= W then Ctrl-V to navigate to the end of the file, then add the following li= nes to the file:
=
# When you are finished editing, save the file by pressing Ctrl-X, the= n y, RETURN.

wget -q http://www.webmin.com/jcameron= -key.asc -O- | sudo apt-key add -
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install webmin

## =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
DO A SYSTEM RE= BOOT NOW
## =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D











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Kind regards

Stuart Tremain
Pha= roah Lane Software
AUSTRALIA




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