2018

So I removed all things WebDNA and= did a clean install of WebDNA Server, now my result is=E2=80=A6

/Library/Server/Web/Data/CGI-Executables/WebCatalogEngine/

/Library/Server/Web/Data/Sites/Default/WebCatalog/

<=br>

Everything else is gone. Although I notice that you directory= paths are different.

When I load y IP/192.168.1.144 in my browser it =load and index.dna file but does not parse the WebDNA and the funny stuff i=s that it=E2=80=99s an index.dna located at another directory ("/Library/WebServer/Documents/inde=x.dna=E2=80=9D) and not relevant to the above directories. When I load it a=s (=E2=80=9C19=2.168.1.144/index.dna=E2=80=9D) it works, but still=C2=A0from a=C2=A0di=rectory I=C2=A0did not expect being=C2=A0("/Library/WebServer/Documents/index.dna=E2=80=9D=) although my Apache conf file states=E2=80=A6

DocumentRoot "/Library/WebServer/Documents="

<Directory "/Library/WebServer/Documents">

and not the (=E2=80=9CLibrary/Server/Web=E2==80=A6=E2=80=9D) which I just reinstalled.

Does it= make sense or am I confusing myself in a was I have not discovered yes ;)<=/div>

/Pa=lle

=

On 17 Mar 2018, at 10.56, Palle Bo Nielsen <powerpalle@power=palle.dk> wrote:

Hi Michael

Maybe this can identify =the problem=E2=80=A6 Let me walk through where how my directories has been =laid out by the installations.

/Library/CGI-Executables=/WebCatalogEngine(/Library/Server/Web/Data/CGI-Ex=ecutables/WebCatalogEngine)
/Library/WebServer/Documents/WebCatalog=(/Library/Server/Web/Data/Sites/
/Library/WebServe=r/hosts(/Library/Server/Web/Data/Sites/index.dna/Library/WebServer/hosts/www.virtual-01.comNot established yet...
/Library/We=bServer/hosts/www.=virtual-02.comNot established yet...

/Lib=rary/WebServer/hosts/www.virtual-03.comNot established yet...

=

So already there we ara talking a dif=ferent directory setup and in this case I have not moved anything around.

/Palle

On 16 Mar 2018, at 21.07, Michael Davis <admin@network13.net> w=rote:

Palle,

One suggestion might be to leave the WebCatalog directory= at /Library/WebServer/Documents/=C2=A0

That way any time you wan=t to access the global WebCatalog preferences, you can do so outside of the= virtual hosts you set up, for instance by IP address.

=

If it were me, I would leave things where they were installed and have= a directory structure like this:

/Library/CGI-Exe=cutables/WebCatalogEngine

/Library/WebServer/Documents/=WebCatalog =C2=A0 =C2=A0<- for accessing WebCat preferences/settings.

/Library/WebServer/hosts =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 ==C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2==A0<- make a directory for your virtual hosts (optional/organizational)<=/div>

/Library/WebServer/hosts/www.virtual-01.com
/Library/WebServer/hos=ts/www.virtua=l-02.com
/Library/WebServer/hosts/www.virtual-03.com

Leave the DocumentRoot alone.=C2=A0 It's fine at the de=fault.

Then use WebMin's Apache2 module to cre=ate your virtual sites.

One question I have is why= do you have a WebCatalog and a WebDNA directory?

=

On Mar 16, 2018, at 12:03 PM, Palle Bo N=ielsen <po=werpalle@powerpalle.dk> wrote:

Okay, then please explain how I can access the= WebDNA folder with all its configurations which is located at the other lo=cations (directories) other than the =E2=80=9CLibrary/WebServer/Documents==E2=80=9D=E2=80=A6.

/Palle

On 16 Mar 2018, at 20.00, Bri=an Harrington <autoglasswny@gmail.com> wrote:

stop changing the dir=ectories!!!

all u need is=C2=A0/Library/WebServer

NO data, web, site=s=C2=A0

On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 6:57 PM, Brian Harrington <autoglass=wny@gmail.com> wrote:

just use /Library/WebServer

=

On Fri, Ma=r 16, 2018 at 6:34 PM, Palle Bo Nielsen <powerpalle@powerpalle.dk> wrote:

Okay, so you convinced me to t=ake the native Apache route within macOS High Sierra. So I installed a fres=h copy of WebDNA Server (most recent version) and I figured our that the de=fault Apache install wa based on port 8080 which was why it dit not work in=itially. Anyhow i get WebDNA to work when assigning a .dna but I need some =guidance on the following=E2=80=A6

So Apache is per defa=ult installed here=E2=80=A6:

/etc/apache2/

WebDNA Server is installed here=E2=80=A6:

/Libr=ary/Server/Web/Data/CGI-Executables/

and

/Library/=Server/Web/Data/Sites/Default/WebCatalog/

/Library/Server/We=b/Data/Sites/Default/WebDNA/

So when looking =into Apache=C2=A0httpd.conf

DocumentRoot &quo=t;/Library/WebServer/Documents"

<Directory "/Library=/WebServer/Documents">

I need t=o direct it to where my Site and WebDNA root is located. Should the above p=oint to the =E2=80=9CLibrary/Sever=E2=80=A6=E2=80=9D directory or should I =keep the =E2=80=9C/Library/WebServer=E2=80=A6=E2=80=9D. I case off the latt=er then how can I open the Web Admin interface in my webbrowser as it is lo=cated elsewhere?

/Palle

=

On 16 Mar= 2018, at 03.38, Brian Harrington <autoglasswny@gmail.com> wrote:

u need to remember... everything i=s in there that u need but apple is fighting you to get this running as the=y see it as a security risk to their OS and reputation!

=I've seen Apple have the wrong allow/deny and their are other variation=s sometimes....=C2=A0apachectl configtest =will tell you if they are wrong but u will need to figure out what is corre=ct!

It's not easy run=ning your own mac web server!!!=C2=A0

=C2=A0

<Directory "/Library/WebServer">

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =Options Indexes FollowSymLinks MultiViews

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 AllowOver=ride None

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Order allow,deny

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =Allow from all

</Directory>

On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 2:20 AM=, Brian Harrington <autoglasswny@gmail.com> wrote:
<=blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px= #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">

the sever (apache) may not s=tart or stay running if u have syntax errors!!! use "apachectl configtest"

plug away at the errors...

On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 2:11 AM, Brian =Harrington <autoglasswny@gmail.com> wrote:

Terminal window.... u need to s=ee "Syntax OK"

-----------------------------------=------------------------

apachectl configtest

Last logi=n: Wed Mar 14 06:06:49 on console

You have mail.

Brian-=Harringtons-Mac-Pro:~ bharrington$ apachectl configtest

httpd: Co=uld not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, us=ing Brian-Harringtons-Mac-Pro.local for ServerName

Syntax OK=

Brian-Harringtons-Mac-Pro:~ bharrington$ apachectl start

This operation requires root.

Brian-Harringtons-Mac-Pro:~ bhar=rington$ Sudo su -

Password:

Brian-Harringtons-Mac-Pro:=~ root# apachectl start

org.apache.httpd: Already loaded

Brian-Harringtons-Mac-Pro:~ root#=C2=A0

-----------------------=------------------------------------

On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 2:05 AM, Brian Harrington <autoglasswny@gmail.com> wrote:

terminal window app is inside applications/Utiliteis<=div>

first type:=C2=A0Sudo su -

enter pasword...

then type:=C2=A0apachectl start

or

apachectl restart

apachectl stop

---------------------

type this...=C2=A0apachectl configte=st

it will help you locate problems!!!

On Thu,= Mar 15, 2018 at 9:50 PM, Stuart Tremain <webdna@idfk.com.au> wrote:

Palle

Don=E2=80=99t be= afraid of the CLI.

Restart Apache is so very easy=

Open terminal and then type the following:

<=div>

To start httpd:

sudo /usr/sbin/apachectl start

To stop httpd:

sudo /usr/sbin/apachectl stop

To restart httpd:

sudo /usr/sbin/apachectl restart

If you leave terminal open, all you have to do is hit the up= arrow key and the last command you typed into terminal will appear again, =just hit enter to execute it again.


















Kind regards

Stuart Tremain

Pharoah Lane Software

AUSTRALIA

webdna@idfk.com.au

=





On 16 Mar 2018, at 05:23, Palle Bo =Nielsen <p=owerpalle@powerpalle.dk> wrote:

I hear you loud and clear and I will try it out as well. But I need s=ome easy (UI) way to start/stop the Apache which is not CLI

<=/div>

/Palle

On 15 Mar 2018, at 03.19, Brian Harrington <autoglasswny@gmail.com> wrote:=

also... u =DON'T need=C2=A0MAMP!!!

apache is right there to edit manually!!! =C2=A0shift command g

folder /private

then open etc folder or go directly= to it /etc

inside etc is apache2 folder...

GUI&=#39;s from my exp don't work on mac regardless what THEY tell you!!!

On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 2:0=9 AM, Brian Harrington <autoglasswny@gmail.com> wrote:<=br>

if u gonna run SSL"=s... I create index on file index.tpl and create files index.htm & inde=x.html and put [include file=3Dindex.tpl] as u will not b able to use the s=ame file name in vhost an sslhost....

On Thu, Mar 15,= 2018 at 2:02 AM, Brian Harrington <autoglasswny@gmail.com> wrote:

why r u movi=ng things around and why r u using index.dna makes no sense to me... u r ju=st creating problems!

On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 1:58 AM, Brian Harrington <autogla=sswny@gmail.com> wrote:

u need to set .dna in webdna .config and prefs

=

ValidTemplateExtensions.html .htm .tpl .dna .txt

AddHa=ndler webcatalog2-handler .html .htm .tpl .dna .txt

apache...

<IfModule dir_module>

=C2=A0= =C2=A0 DirectoryIndex index.html index.htm index.tpl

</IfModu=le>

note i don't use .dna LOL so not =in apache but u will need to add it....

On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 6:07 PM, Palle Bo Nielsen <<=a href=3D"mailto:powerpalle@powerpalle.dk" target=3D"_blank">powerpalle@pow=erpalle.dk> wrote:

Hi all
This is a new thread with a mission to get WebDNA to work with MAMP Pro.
Prerequisites=E2=80=A6:

- MacOS High Sierra 10.13.3 (not running "Apple Server App=E2=80=9D)- WebDNA Server 8.5.1
- MAMP Pro 4.4.1


DIRECTORIES
=E2=80=94=E2=80=94=E2=80=94=E2=80=94=E2=80=94=E2=80=94=E2=80=94

o MAMP Location:
/Applications/MAMP/

o Site Root:
/Applications/MAMP/htdocs/

o WebDNA:
/Applications/MAMP/htdocs/WebCatalog
/Applications/MAMP/htdocs/WebDNA
/Applications/MAMP/cgi-bin/WebCatalogEngine

o Apache:
/Applications/MAMP/conf/apache/


APACHE CONFIGURATION
=E2=80=94=E2=80=94=E2=80=94=E2=80=94=E2=80=94=E2=80=94=E2=80=94=E2=80=94=E2==80=94=E2=80=94=E2=80=94=E2=80=94=E2=80=94

/Applications/MAMP/conf/apache/httpd.conf

Added the following=E2=80=A6
Include /Applications/MAMP/cgi-bin/WebCatalogEngine/webdna.conf

Within the webdna.conf file which is located here, i...
/Applications/MAMP/cgi-bin/WebCatalogEngine/webdna.conf

=E2=80=A6I modified the path to the WebDNA module
LoadModule webcatalog2_module=C2=A0 =C2=A0/Applications/MAMP/cgi-bin/WebCatalogEngine/mod_WebDNA_apache2.4.so

Within this directory I create an index.dna file to test if WebDNA parses/Applications/MAMP/htdocs/index.dna

When trying to load the following on my local network it fails. Actually it= downloads the index.dna file in stead of parsing it.
192.168.1.144/index.dna

Doing the same with a normal index.html with no WebDNA expectations (just a= plain html) it loads just fine.


I am missing something. Any clue out there.

/Palle


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