Re: [WebDNA] WebDNA and macOS 10.4 Mojave - Operational?
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texte = 2039Somes news about this subject.The problem comes from Mojave that does not let unsigned applications =running, since none of our binaries are signed with a developer =certificate. Seems Mojave is more strict about this, probably to stop =malware.Furthermore, signing with our name will NOT help. The issue isn't just =that the library isn't signed.With "Library Validation" enabled, the library has to be signed by the =same developer that made the application. "Plug-ins or frameworks signed =by other developers" cannot be loaded. So if we want to run our own =module with the Apache that comes with OSX, Apple has to sign the module =themselves. Obviously that will never happen.Seems like disabling SIP or installing another separate copy of Apache =are the only options.To disable SIP, boot in the recovery OS, open a terminal, and run:csrutil disableAlso, I guess lighttpd comes with its own fastcgi support included, and =it should work fine if you want to run lighttpd with WebDNA.(The built-in OSX Apache does not include a fastcgi/fcgid module, and =thats why we provide one.)- chris> On Oct 5, 2018, at 20:24, Patrick McCormick
=wrote:>=20> Mojave is far less important than getting a docker image running.>=20> While I understand that it is nice to have a local version running =under Mojave, wasting time building for any system dependent on a GUI =misses the entire idea of how the internet works today - particularly =with the rise of cloud computing.>=20> Not only can you already run docker images and containers in Mojave, =those same containers and images can be immediately deployed into any =scalable cloud hosting environment. Why on Earth would it be important =to build a version that runs within a single, individual, GUI =environment?>=20> This has been the Achilles Heel of WebDNA for the past 10 years.>=20>=20>=20>> On Oct 4, 2018, at 2:21 AM, Michael Davis =wrote:>>=20>> Chris,>>=20>> Possible to have you recompile fastcgi.so for Mojave?>>=20>>=20>> MD>>=20>>> On Oct 1, 2018, at 10:27 AM, Michael Davis =wrote:>>>=20>>> My experience thus far is that the version of fastcgi.so is no =longer compatible with Mojave. So for the fcgi version, we're needing a =newly compiled fastcgi.so. I grabbed the source but haven't had time to =compile it yet. On the server version, I did try to run the High Sierra =installer, but after it ran there was still no active .dna parsing. So =there's something to look into there as well. Apple does the obligatory =backup of old Apache configs when upgrading, so remember to flip your =conf files back to the .orig versions.>>>=20>>>=20>>>=20>>> Mike>>>=20>>>=20>>>=20>>>> On Oct 1, 2018, at 6:54 AM, christophe.billiottet@webdna.us wrote:>>>>=20>>>> Hi Palle! no, there is no experience yet with Mojave, but my guess =is there will be no problem. Both versions of WebDNA just need standard =apache. The only thing is Apple sometimes change the way apache runs =under OSX, so in the worst case, we will have to change the installer =that was working with the two last versions. But WebDNA will work fine =at the end.>>>>=20>>>> If you have a production server, it is not advisable to jump on the =new releases. Wait a little.>>>>=20>>>> - chris>>>>=20>>>>=20>>>>=20>>>>=20>>>>=20>>>>=20>>>>> On Oct 1, 2018, at 16:24, Palle Bo Nielsen = wrote:>>>>>=20>>>>> No experience, macOS 10.14 Mojave and WebDNA?>>>>>=20>>>>> /Palle---------------------------------------------------------This message is sent to you because you are subscribed tothe mailing list talk@webdna.usTo unsubscribe, E-mail to: talk-leave@webdna.usarchives: http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us.
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2039Somes news about this subject.The problem comes from Mojave that does not let unsigned applications =running, since none of our binaries are signed with a developer =certificate. Seems Mojave is more strict about this, probably to stop =malware.Furthermore, signing with our name will NOT help. The issue isn't just =that the library isn't signed.With "Library Validation" enabled, the library has to be signed by the =same developer that made the application. "Plug-ins or frameworks signed =by other developers" cannot be loaded. So if we want to run our own =module with the Apache that comes with OSX, Apple has to sign the module =themselves. Obviously that will never happen.Seems like disabling SIP or installing another separate copy of Apache =are the only options.To disable SIP, boot in the recovery OS, open a terminal, and run:csrutil disableAlso, I guess lighttpd comes with its own fastcgi support included, and =it should work fine if you want to run lighttpd with WebDNA.(The built-in OSX Apache does not include a fastcgi/fcgid module, and =thats why we provide one.)- chris> On Oct 5, 2018, at 20:24, Patrick McCormick =wrote:>=20> Mojave is far less important than getting a docker image running.>=20> While I understand that it is nice to have a local version running =under Mojave, wasting time building for any system dependent on a GUI =misses the entire idea of how the internet works today - particularly =with the rise of cloud computing.>=20> Not only can you already run docker images and containers in Mojave, =those same containers and images can be immediately deployed into any =scalable cloud hosting environment. Why on Earth would it be important =to build a version that runs within a single, individual, GUI =environment?>=20> This has been the Achilles Heel of WebDNA for the past 10 years.>=20>=20>=20>> On Oct 4, 2018, at 2:21 AM, Michael Davis =wrote:>>=20>> Chris,>>=20>> Possible to have you recompile fastcgi.so for Mojave?>>=20>>=20>> MD>>=20>>> On Oct 1, 2018, at 10:27 AM, Michael Davis =wrote:>>>=20>>> My experience thus far is that the version of fastcgi.so is no =longer compatible with Mojave. So for the fcgi version, we're needing a =newly compiled fastcgi.so. I grabbed the source but haven't had time to =compile it yet. On the server version, I did try to run the High Sierra =installer, but after it ran there was still no active .dna parsing. So =there's something to look into there as well. Apple does the obligatory =backup of old Apache configs when upgrading, so remember to flip your =conf files back to the .orig versions.>>>=20>>>=20>>>=20>>> Mike>>>=20>>>=20>>>=20>>>> On Oct 1, 2018, at 6:54 AM, christophe.billiottet@webdna.us wrote:>>>>=20>>>> Hi Palle! no, there is no experience yet with Mojave, but my guess =is there will be no problem. Both versions of WebDNA just need standard =apache. The only thing is Apple sometimes change the way apache runs =under OSX, so in the worst case, we will have to change the installer =that was working with the two last versions. But WebDNA will work fine =at the end.>>>>=20>>>> If you have a production server, it is not advisable to jump on the =new releases. Wait a little.>>>>=20>>>> - chris>>>>=20>>>>=20>>>>=20>>>>=20>>>>=20>>>>=20>>>>> On Oct 1, 2018, at 16:24, Palle Bo Nielsen = wrote:>>>>>=20>>>>> No experience, macOS 10.14 Mojave and WebDNA?>>>>>=20>>>>> /Palle---------------------------------------------------------This message is sent to you because you are subscribed tothe mailing list talk@webdna.usTo unsubscribe, E-mail to: talk-leave@webdna.usarchives: http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us.
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