Re[2]: Using [Include] Context
This WebDNA talk-list message is from 1999
It keeps the original formatting.
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interpreted = N
texte = Your analysis of relative vs absolute is absolutely correct, but I have toquibble with one aspect of your analysis. With respect to WebCatalog includefiles, indeed the root slash under NT points to the WebCatalog directory itself,rather than the site root directory. However, all HTML code which is handled bythe web browser, like all IMAGE files, the slash is relative to the virtual rootHTDOCS directory.When I have designed WebCatalog sites in the past, I always have put the staticelements in the HTDOCS directory tree, and all templates in a subdirectory ofthe WebCatalog directory itself. This includes all graphical elements. I thencode all pages except the database entry page using relative addressing. Thisincludes all of the active pages as well as any static HTML pages. The soleexeption is all graphic elements are root pathed to the virtual root for thatsite. This enables me to have a test site resident on the same system, sharingthe same virtual root, and with a seperate WebCatalog directory under./WebCatalog/localhost/domain/... This allows me to test my new active pagesand copy the files unchanged to the live site. The only alteration I need tomake is the one link in the first active page, which sets the relative homedirectory for the rest of the template files. I delete that sole instance of/localhost and my site is live.John Peacock____________________Reply Separator____________________Subject: Re: Using [Include] Context Author:
(WebCatalog Talk)Date: 11/20/99 7:26 PMThe key is in how you interpret the word relative in this context.Relative to the current document, or relative to the root. Webcatalog isexpecting the former. On NT, root relative is further confused by the factthat the leading slash in the path actually points to the Webcatalogdirectory in the scripts directory, instead of the expected web site root.What you need to do is create a document relative path, such as [includefile=../include/filename.txt] which will work on all platforms. In fact, inhtml as well as webdna, using root relative or semi-qualified paths can, andusually will, make your web site non-portable. References such assrc=/images/header.gif will lock your web site in the directory structurethat it's in now, needing code revision to move the site to a new serverthat may use different server software or directory structures. Simpleanswer: where possible, always use ../filepath/ (document relative) filepaths instead of /filepath/ (root relative) file paths, whether in yourWebDNA or in your HTML.Mike> From: Vince Medina > Reply-To: (WebCatalog Talk)> Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 21:52:30> To: (WebCatalog Talk)> Subject: Using [Include] Context> > When using an [include file=/include/filename.txt]> We get a file not found error.> > As I understand the syntax, the path should be relative to virtual root path> where my htdocs dir is.> > For example: If the site is www.test.com then it should include a file> located in http://www.test.com/include/filename.txt> > Is there something I am missing?> > Vince> > > APC Net, Inc. - sales@apcn.net - www.apcn.net> 4471 NW 36 St. #110 - Miami Springs, FL 33166> > > > -------------------------------------------------------------> Brought to you by CommuniGate Pro - The Buzz Word Compliant Messaging Server.> To end your Mail problems go to .> > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to> the mailing list .> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to> -------------------------------------------------------------Brought to you by CommuniGate Pro - The Buzz Word Compliant Messaging Server.To end your Mail problems go to .This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list .To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to
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Your analysis of relative vs absolute is absolutely correct, but I have toquibble with one aspect of your analysis. With respect to WebCatalog includefiles, indeed the root slash under NT points to the WebCatalog directory itself,rather than the site root directory. However, all HTML code which is handled bythe web browser, like all IMAGE files, the slash is relative to the virtual rootHTDOCS directory.When I have designed WebCatalog sites in the past, I always have put the staticelements in the HTDOCS directory tree, and all templates in a subdirectory ofthe WebCatalog directory itself. This includes all graphical elements. I thencode all pages except the database entry page using relative addressing. Thisincludes all of the active pages as well as any static HTML pages. The soleexeption is all graphic elements are root pathed to the virtual root for thatsite. This enables me to have a test site resident on the same system, sharingthe same virtual root, and with a seperate WebCatalog directory under./WebCatalog/localhost/domain/... This allows me to test my new active pagesand copy the files unchanged to the live site. The only alteration I need tomake is the one link in the first active page, which sets the relative homedirectory for the rest of the template files. I delete that sole instance of/localhost and my site is live.John Peacock____________________Reply Separator____________________Subject: Re: Using [include] Context Author: (WebCatalog Talk)Date: 11/20/99 7:26 PMThe key is in how you interpret the word relative in this context.Relative to the current document, or relative to the root. Webcatalog isexpecting the former. On NT, root relative is further confused by the factthat the leading slash in the path actually points to the Webcatalogdirectory in the scripts directory, instead of the expected web site root.What you need to do is create a document relative path, such as [includefile=../include/filename.txt] which will work on all platforms. In fact, inhtml as well as webdna, using root relative or semi-qualified paths can, andusually will, make your web site non-portable. References such assrc=/images/header.gif will lock your web site in the directory structurethat it's in now, needing code revision to move the site to a new serverthat may use different server software or directory structures. Simpleanswer: where possible, always use ../filepath/ (document relative) filepaths instead of /filepath/ (root relative) file paths, whether in yourWebDNA or in your HTML.Mike> From: Vince Medina > Reply-To: (WebCatalog Talk)> Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 21:52:30> To: (WebCatalog Talk)> Subject: Using [include] Context> > When using an [include file=/include/filename.txt]> We get a file not found error.> > As I understand the syntax, the path should be relative to virtual root path> where my htdocs dir is.> > For example: If the site is www.test.com then it should include a file> located in http://www.test.com/include/filename.txt> > Is there something I am missing?> > Vince> > > APC Net, Inc. - sales@apcn.net - www.apcn.net> 4471 NW 36 St. #110 - Miami Springs, FL 33166> > > > -------------------------------------------------------------> Brought to you by CommuniGate Pro - The Buzz Word Compliant Messaging Server.> To end your Mail problems go to .> > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to> the mailing list .> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to> -------------------------------------------------------------Brought to you by CommuniGate Pro - The Buzz Word Compliant Messaging Server.To end your Mail problems go to .This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list .To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to
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