Re: Blowback and budgets.
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texte = At 12:09 AM 1/25/00, David A. Bryant wrote:>> ... but if you all had to take a vote today, and by>> show of hands I'd like a tally, who today would purchase WebCatalog>> right off the cyberstore shelf knowing what they know now? Whether>> Unix, NT, or Mac solution, would you buy it?I would, but let me explain.First of all I was already using WS4D for my e-commerce storefronts. Backin September I needed to program a subscription based messaging matchingsort of thing that would be very similar to what a dating service sitemight require. Needed a database for people and there profiles, needed tokeep track of paid subscriptions and process CC payments, needed to allowmessaging between users without revealing e-mail addresses, etc, etc. Usersneeded to login and I need to keep track of logins, sessions, membershiplevel, paid stats, etc, etc as a person moved from page to page.I sent my database spec to Steve C. at MGI and Nathan and Steve N. atWebSiphon. Both said that my app was do-able, but would take them weeks forthem to get to a point in their work schedule before they could help me andboth indicated that the site would have a long development period.Subsequently Steve Crisp said that MGI would not be able to do what Iwanted to do, but MGI 2 (not even in beta as I write this) would be able todo. I need the job done in less then 30 days. I talked up the applicationon both the MGI and WebSiphon talk list and pretty much got the sameanswers as the product developers were giving me. Do-able, but difficult,and long development time.Blueworld (lasso) and pervasive (tango) never even replied to inquiries.WebCat was out of the question due to it's price tag.Then Dale from colony.net turned me on to TyphoonPro. For those who don'tknow, Tpro is WebCat without the e-commerce tags and only cost me $495.Since I didn't need the e-commerce tags anyway, I downloaded an evaluationcopy and jumped in... (in a previous life I programmed in C -- FORTRAN,COBOL, BASIC and RPG before that) [Everyone under 30 now asks, What'sRPG?]I plowed into my application, asked a few newbie questions on this verylist... got some great answers from some of the users... and I was able toget the site on-line in less then a week. I'm not kidding.It is only through the support offered by other WebCat-ers on this listthat I have any confidence in this software at all, and as long as they arearound, and as long as TPro doesn't explode... I suppose I will survive.Will I buy an upgrade to some future version of WebCat? Probably not.___Joe____________________________________________________Joseph D'Andrea JoeDan@West21.comWEST21.com Internet services for the 21st Century http://www.west21.com/_________________________________________________-------------------------------------------------------------Brought to you by CommuniGate Pro - The Buzz Word Compliant Messaging Server.To end your Mail problems go to
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At 12:09 AM 1/25/00, David A. Bryant wrote:>> ... but if you all had to take a vote today, and by>> show of hands I'd like a tally, who today would purchase WebCatalog>> right off the cyberstore shelf knowing what they know now? Whether>> Unix, NT, or Mac solution, would you buy it?I would, but let me explain.First of all I was already using WS4D for my e-commerce storefronts. Backin September I needed to program a subscription based messaging matchingsort of thing that would be very similar to what a dating service sitemight require. Needed a database for people and there profiles, needed tokeep track of paid subscriptions and process CC payments, needed to allowmessaging between users without revealing e-mail addresses, etc, etc. Usersneeded to login and I need to keep track of logins, sessions, membershiplevel, paid stats, etc, etc as a person moved from page to page.I sent my database spec to Steve C. at MGI and Nathan and Steve N. atWebSiphon. Both said that my app was do-able, but would take them weeks forthem to get to a point in their work schedule before they could help me andboth indicated that the site would have a long development period.Subsequently Steve Crisp said that MGI would not be able to do what Iwanted to do, but MGI 2 (not even in beta as I write this) would be able todo. I need the job done in less then 30 days. I talked up the applicationon both the MGI and WebSiphon Talk List and pretty much got the sameanswers as the product developers were giving me. Do-able, but difficult,and long development time.Blueworld (lasso) and pervasive (tango) never even replied to inquiries.WebCat was out of the question due to it's price tag.Then Dale from colony.net turned me on to TyphoonPro. For those who don'tknow, Tpro is WebCat without the e-commerce tags and only cost me $495.Since I didn't need the e-commerce tags anyway, I downloaded an evaluationcopy and jumped in... (in a previous life I programmed in C -- FORTRAN,COBOL, BASIC and RPG before that) [Everyone under 30 now asks, What'sRPG?]I plowed into my application, asked a few newbie questions on this verylist... got some great answers from some of the users... and I was able toget the site on-line in less then a week. I'm not kidding.It is only through the support offered by other WebCat-ers on this listthat I have any confidence in this software at all, and as long as they arearound, and as long as TPro doesn't explode... I suppose I will survive.Will I buy an upgrade to some future version of WebCat? Probably not.___Joe____________________________________________________Joseph D'Andrea JoeDan@West21.comWEST21.com Internet services for the 21st Century http://www.west21.com/_________________________________________________-------------------------------------------------------------Brought to you by CommuniGate Pro - The Buzz Word Compliant Messaging Server.To end your Mail problems go to .This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list .To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to
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