Re: OT: Poll Results
This WebDNA talk-list message is from 2002
It keeps the original formatting.
numero = 42263
interpreted = N
texte = I haven't seemed to have much of a problem with ASP/PHP/CF comparisons either. I simply don't talk about the programming language(s) unless asked by the client. If they do interrogate, I give them a very brief answer, minimize the importance, then keeping moving forward.My interest in taking this poll has come from my notation of some of the responses on this mailing list. There are several developers here that seem to have spent an extended amount of time on testing and researching WebDNA.Now don't get me wrong, I think that is fabulous and it benefits me greatly as well as many others, BUT... it also amazes me. Being an independent developer, I simply do NOT have the time to go above and beyond exactly what I need to get the job done. Time for testing and exploring is more than limited for me.In learning WebDNA, I have basically gained my experience as needed, which I'm sure puts me a bit behind many of those who work for another business alongside other developers. To be competitive, I have to be capable of pulling projects off the board as quickly as companies who may have 2, 3, 4 or more developers on staff. That alone, makes my time extremely valuable, yet very constrained. Not to mention, being independent... there are many other aspects of your work that you must carry on your own shoulders: consultation, billing, education, technical support, taxes, etc. Again, all of those tasks taking away from any research and testing time allocation.I realize the importance of this research and I know that bottom line, it will save me time and effort... but in the real world, it seems virtually impossible to accomplish.Just my stance on the topic.-----Original Message----- From: WebCatalog Talk [mailto:WebDNA-Talk@talk.smithmicro.com]On Behalf Of Karl Schroll Sent: Monday, August 05, 2002 1:51 PM To: WebCatalog Talk Subject: Re: OT: Poll Results> (5) Owners of Development Business (more than 1 employee)^ This is me.I'm not positive, but since we started developing with WebCatalog 1.6.1, I don't think that we've EVER lost a job because the technology didn't stack up to ASP/Cold Fusion, etc. In fact most of our clients don't even ask or care. And most of our projects come in with decent size budgets, but we're often substantially less than the competition. Seems for us the sweet spot in is larger organizations that don't really have an IT department, but sometimes an IT person who does double duty, is overworked, and is just looking for an affordable way to ease the pain of website management, which is where our WebCat content management system fits the bill nicely. The more bells and whistles in the project, the more you're likely to run into the IT people who want the safe ASP/CF solution. But we've gotten some of those too. Get testimonials from your higher-profile sites, give demos, and keep the price reasonable and maybe don't target the higest end. --Regards,Karl Schroll Digital Frontier PO Box 1171, 1813 Mountain Road Stowe, VT 05672 802-253-8612 schroll@digitalfrontier.com www.digitalfrontier.com************************************************** Take control of your web site with our easy-to-use content management systems. Discover for yourself how easy web site management can be! **************************************************------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list
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I haven't seemed to have much of a problem with ASP/PHP/CF comparisons either. I simply don't talk about the programming language(s) unless asked by the client. If they do interrogate, I give them a very brief answer, minimize the importance, then keeping moving forward.My interest in taking this poll has come from my notation of some of the responses on this mailing list. There are several developers here that seem to have spent an extended amount of time on testing and researching WebDNA.Now don't get me wrong, I think that is fabulous and it benefits me greatly as well as many others, BUT... it also amazes me. Being an independent developer, I simply do NOT have the time to go above and beyond exactly what I need to get the job done. Time for testing and exploring is more than limited for me.In learning WebDNA, I have basically gained my experience as needed, which I'm sure puts me a bit behind many of those who work for another business alongside other developers. To be competitive, I have to be capable of pulling projects off the board as quickly as companies who may have 2, 3, 4 or more developers on staff. That alone, makes my time extremely valuable, yet very constrained. Not to mention, being independent... there are many other aspects of your work that you must carry on your own shoulders: consultation, billing, education, technical support, taxes, etc. Again, all of those tasks taking away from any research and testing time allocation.I realize the importance of this research and I know that bottom line, it will save me time and effort... but in the real world, it seems virtually impossible to accomplish.Just my stance on the topic.-----Original Message----- From: WebCatalog Talk [mailto:WebDNA-Talk@talk.smithmicro.com]On Behalf Of Karl Schroll Sent: Monday, August 05, 2002 1:51 PM To: WebCatalog Talk Subject: Re: OT: Poll Results> (5) Owners of Development Business (more than 1 employee)^ This is me.I'm not positive, but since we started developing with WebCatalog 1.6.1, I don't think that we've EVER lost a job because the technology didn't stack up to ASP/Cold Fusion, etc. In fact most of our clients don't even ask or care. And most of our projects come in with decent size budgets, but we're often substantially less than the competition. Seems for us the sweet spot in is larger organizations that don't really have an IT department, but sometimes an IT person who does double duty, is overworked, and is just looking for an affordable way to ease the pain of website management, which is where our WebCat content management system fits the bill nicely. The more bells and whistles in the project, the more you're likely to run into the IT people who want the safe ASP/CF solution. But we've gotten some of those too. Get testimonials from your higher-profile sites, give demos, and keep the price reasonable and maybe don't target the higest end. --Regards,Karl Schroll Digital Frontier PO Box 1171, 1813 Mountain Road Stowe, VT 05672 802-253-8612 schroll@digitalfrontier.com www.digitalfrontier.com************************************************** Take control of your web site with our easy-to-use content management systems. Discover for yourself how easy web site management can be! **************************************************------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://search.smithmicro.com/------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://search.smithmicro.com/
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