Re: One Hour Email

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2002


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texte = It's not really the time that's causing the problem. I don't think. I think the problem is with the -0800. It should be. I think. When I open this email message in MS Outlook, the time listed there is one hour fast.I give up.-----Original Message----- From: WebCatalog Talk [mailto:WebDNA-Talk@talk.smithmicro.com]On Behalf Of Stuart Tremain Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 10:11 PM To: WebCatalog Talk Subject: Re: One Hour EmailOn w2000 Emailer does not come into the process. It is not used.The time is set by w2000 SMTP server.Did the time=[Time] give you the result you were after?-- Stuart Tremain idfk web developments - AustraliaOn Tuesday, 10 September 2002, Kimberly D. Walls \(Ingram\) wrote: >When I add &time=[time] to [sendmail]... I get the following >header: > >Received: from hfd-www.netsourcery.com [192.168.254.15] by >mail.netsourcery.com > (SMTPD32-7.00) id A026840088; Mon, 09 Sep 2002 18:51:34 >Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2002 18:51:46 -0800 >to: fauxefficient@mcleodusa.net >from: webmaster@fauxefficient.com >Subject: Web Site Contact >Time: 18:51:37 >Message-Id: <200209091851716.SM01176@hfd-www.netsourcery.com> >X-RCPT-TO: >Status: U >X-UIDL: 318584662 > >In comparison to the previous header: > >>>Received: from hfd-www.netsourcery.com [192.168.254.15] by >>>mail.netsourcery.com >>> (SMTPD32-7.00) id AF9A818008E; Mon, 09 Sep 2002 06:18:18 >>>Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2002 06:18:18 -0800 >>>to: info@cherokeepharmacy.com >>>from: kim@netsourcery.com >>>Subject: Web Site Contact >>>MIME-Version: 1.0 >>>Content-Type: text/html;charset=us-ascii >>>Message-Id: <200209090618412.SM01176@hfd-www.netsourcery.com> >>>X-RCPT-TO: >>>Status: U >>>X-UIDL: 318584619 > > >So, where exactly does this part <<< Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2002 18:51:46 -0800 >>>> come from? I thought it was from Emailer, now I'm not >sure. > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: WebCatalog Talk [mailto:WebDNA-Talk@talk.smithmicro.com]On Behalf Of >Stuart Tremain >Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 9:50 PM >To: WebCatalog Talk >Subject: Re: One Hour Email > >Try putting &Time=[Time] in the sendmail. > >ie [SendMail to=name@domain.com&From=fromname@domain.com&Subject=time >test&Time=[Time]] > >I haven't tried it myself but this would force the issue. > > > > > >-- >Stuart Tremain >idfk web developments - Australia > >On Tuesday, 10 September 2002, Kimberly D. Walls \(Ingram\) > wrote: >>I understand that. But doesn't WebCatalog set the Date in the >>header? >> >>I'm sorry. I'm confused by the entire thing. >> >>If I send email regularly, simply using Outlook, the time is fine. >>If I send email using a template and the [sendmail] command, there is a 1 >>hour difference in the header information. >>If I use [time] in any template, WebCatalog shows me the >>correct time. >> >> >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: WebCatalog Talk [mailto:WebDNA-Talk@talk.smithmicro.com]On Behalf Of >>Stuart Tremain >>Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 7:45 PM >>To: WebCatalog Talk >>Subject: Re: One Hour Email >> >>Kimberly >> >>On W2000 server platform Emailer is not used. The w2000 internal SMTP >server >>is the engine sending the email. WebCatalog only creates the file that is >>ultimately sent by the w2000 SMTP Server. >> >> >> >> >>-- >>Stuart Tremain >>idfk web developments - Australia >> >>On Tuesday, 10 September 2002, Kimberly D. Walls \(Ingram\) >> wrote: >>>Kenneth Grome just mentioned this problem, but I can't find any talk-list >>>archives newer than June 2002. {sigh} >>> >>>Here's what we have... >>> WebCatalog: Version 4.5.0 ( just upgraded ) >>> Mail Server: iMail 7.0 >>> Server: Windows 2000 ( Advanced Server ) >>> >>>Now for the problem. >>> >>>When using WebCatalog's Emailer in a template, the email header looks like >>>this: >>> >>>Received: from hfd-www.netsourcery.com [192.168.254.15] by >>>mail.netsourcery.com >>> (SMTPD32-7.00) id AF9A818008E; Mon, 09 Sep 2002 06:18:18 >>>Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2002 06:18:18 -0800 >>>to: info@cherokeepharmacy.com >>>from: kim@netsourcery.com >>>Subject: Web Site Contact >>>MIME-Version: 1.0 >>>Content-Type: text/html;charset=us-ascii >>>Message-Id: <200209090618412.SM01176@hfd-www.netsourcery.com> >>>X-RCPT-TO: >>>Status: U >>>X-UIDL: 318584619 >>> >>> >>>Notice the difference in the Received time and the Date time. >>>I am in Tennessee (Eastern Daylight Time) and the server is in California >>>(Pacific Daylight Time), I send the message this morning at 9:18am, >>>therefore... >>> >>>The Received setting shows the time as, which is correct. >>>The Date settings shows the time as -0800, which is 1 hour >>>wrong. >>> >>>From what I understand, the Received setting is provided by the Mail >>>Server and in this case, the Date setting is provided by WebCatalog's >>>Emailer. >>> >>>So, my assumption is that Emailer is not seeing the Daylight >>>savings time. >>> >>>When Kenneth Grome asked about this problem last week, someone mentioned >>>that it was a bug that had been corrected in the latest version (4.5.0 ?), >>>but according to my testing, the bug still has not been fixed. >>> >>>Now, I don't understand how Emailer works, but from what I do >understand... >>>the server has two clock references. >>>The first is the actual system clock, then the second would be the OS's >>>interpretation of that clock, which includes Daylight Savings >>>time. >>> >>>I would like to know where Emailer gathers the time information... is it >>from >>>the system clock of from the OS? >>> >>>Any ideas on how to resolve this issue? Are there any Emailer files that >>>could be altered in order to solve this problem? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>------------------------------------------------------------- >>>This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>> the mailing list . >>>To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >> >>>Web Archive of this list is at: http://search.smithmicro.com/ >>> >> >> >> >>------------------------------------------------------------- >>This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >>To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >> >>Web Archive of this list is at: http://search.smithmicro.com/ >> >> >> >>------------------------------------------------------------- >>This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >>To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > >>Web Archive of this list is at: http://search.smithmicro.com/ >> > > > >------------------------------------------------------------- >This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . >To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > >Web Archive of this list is at: http://search.smithmicro.com/ > > > >------------------------------------------------------------- >This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . >To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >Web Archive of this list is at: http://search.smithmicro.com/ >------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://search.smithmicro.com/------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://search.smithmicro.com/ Associated Messages, from the most recent to the oldest:

    
  1. Re: One Hour Email (Kenneth Grome 2002)
  2. Re: One Hour Email (Stuart Tremain 2002)
  3. Re: One Hour Email (Scott Anderson 2002)
  4. Re: One Hour Email (Kimberly D. Walls \(Ingram\) 2002)
  5. Re: One Hour Email (Brian Fries 2002)
  6. Re: Talk Archives Was: One Hour Email (Jesse Williams-Proudman 2002)
  7. Talk Archives Was: One Hour Email (Kimberly D. Walls \(Ingram\) 2002)
  8. Re: One Hour Email (Glenn Busbin 2002)
  9. Re: One Hour Email (Kimberly D. Walls \(Ingram\) 2002)
  10. Re: One Hour Email (John Peacock 2002)
  11. Re: One Hour Email (Kimberly D. Walls \(Ingram\) 2002)
  12. Re: One Hour Email (John Peacock 2002)
  13. Re: One Hour Email (Gary Krockover 2002)
  14. Re: One Hour Email (Kenneth Grome 2002)
  15. Re: One Hour Email (Kenneth Grome 2002)
  16. Re: One Hour Email (Gary Krockover 2002)
  17. Re: One Hour Email (Kenneth Grome 2002)
  18. Re: One Hour Email (Gary Krockover 2002)
  19. Re: One Hour Email (John Peacock 2002)
  20. Re: One Hour Email (Kenneth Grome 2002)
  21. Re: One Hour Email (Stuart Tremain 2002)
  22. Re: One Hour Email (Kimberly D. Walls \(Ingram\) 2002)
  23. Re: One Hour Email (Stuart Tremain 2002)
  24. Re: One Hour Email (Kimberly D. Walls \(Ingram\) 2002)
  25. Re: One Hour Email (Stuart Tremain 2002)
  26. Re: One Hour Email (Kimberly D. Walls \(Ingram\) 2002)
  27. Re: One Hour Email (Kimberly D. Walls \(Ingram\) 2002)
  28. Re: One Hour Email (Stuart Tremain 2002)
  29. Re: One Hour Email (Glenn Busbin 2002)
  30. One Hour Email (Kimberly D. Walls \(Ingram\) 2002)
It's not really the time that's causing the problem. I don't think. I think the problem is with the -0800. It should be. I think. When I open this email message in MS Outlook, the time listed there is one hour fast.I give up.-----Original Message----- From: WebCatalog Talk [mailto:WebDNA-Talk@talk.smithmicro.com]On Behalf Of Stuart Tremain Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 10:11 PM To: WebCatalog Talk Subject: Re: One Hour EmailOn w2000 Emailer does not come into the process. It is not used.The time is set by w2000 SMTP server.Did the time=[time] give you the result you were after?-- Stuart Tremain idfk web developments - AustraliaOn Tuesday, 10 September 2002, Kimberly D. Walls \(Ingram\) wrote: >When I add &time=[time] to [sendmail]... I get the following >header: > >Received: from hfd-www.netsourcery.com [192.168.254.15] by >mail.netsourcery.com > (SMTPD32-7.00) id A026840088; Mon, 09 Sep 2002 18:51:34 >Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2002 18:51:46 -0800 >to: fauxefficient@mcleodusa.net >from: webmaster@fauxefficient.com >Subject: Web Site Contact >Time: 18:51:37 >Message-Id: <200209091851716.SM01176@hfd-www.netsourcery.com> >X-RCPT-TO: >Status: U >X-UIDL: 318584662 > >In comparison to the previous header: > >>>Received: from hfd-www.netsourcery.com [192.168.254.15] by >>>mail.netsourcery.com >>> (SMTPD32-7.00) id AF9A818008E; Mon, 09 Sep 2002 06:18:18 >>>Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2002 06:18:18 -0800 >>>to: info@cherokeepharmacy.com >>>from: kim@netsourcery.com >>>Subject: Web Site Contact >>>MIME-Version: 1.0 >>>Content-Type: text/html;charset=us-ascii >>>Message-Id: <200209090618412.SM01176@hfd-www.netsourcery.com> >>>X-RCPT-TO: >>>Status: U >>>X-UIDL: 318584619 > > >So, where exactly does this part <<< Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2002 18:51:46 -0800 >>>> come from? I thought it was from Emailer, now I'm not >sure. > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: WebCatalog Talk [mailto:WebDNA-Talk@talk.smithmicro.com]On Behalf Of >Stuart Tremain >Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 9:50 PM >To: WebCatalog Talk >Subject: Re: One Hour Email > >Try putting &Time=[time] in the sendmail. > >ie [SendMail to=name@domain.com&From=fromname@domain.com&Subject=time >test&Time=[time]] > >I haven't tried it myself but this would force the issue. > > > > > >-- >Stuart Tremain >idfk web developments - Australia > >On Tuesday, 10 September 2002, Kimberly D. Walls \(Ingram\) > wrote: >>I understand that. But doesn't WebCatalog set the Date in the >>header? >> >>I'm sorry. I'm confused by the entire thing. >> >>If I send email regularly, simply using Outlook, the time is fine. >>If I send email using a template and the [sendmail] command, there is a 1 >>hour difference in the header information. >>If I use [time] in any template, WebCatalog shows me the >>correct time. >> >> >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: WebCatalog Talk [mailto:WebDNA-Talk@talk.smithmicro.com]On Behalf Of >>Stuart Tremain >>Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 7:45 PM >>To: WebCatalog Talk >>Subject: Re: One Hour Email >> >>Kimberly >> >>On W2000 server platform Emailer is not used. The w2000 internal SMTP >server >>is the engine sending the email. WebCatalog only creates the file that is >>ultimately sent by the w2000 SMTP Server. >> >> >> >> >>-- >>Stuart Tremain >>idfk web developments - Australia >> >>On Tuesday, 10 September 2002, Kimberly D. Walls \(Ingram\) >> wrote: >>>Kenneth Grome just mentioned this problem, but I can't find any talk-list >>>archives newer than June 2002. {sigh} >>> >>>Here's what we have... >>> WebCatalog: Version 4.5.0 ( just upgraded ) >>> Mail Server: iMail 7.0 >>> Server: Windows 2000 ( Advanced Server ) >>> >>>Now for the problem. >>> >>>When using WebCatalog's Emailer in a template, the email header looks like >>>this: >>> >>>Received: from hfd-www.netsourcery.com [192.168.254.15] by >>>mail.netsourcery.com >>> (SMTPD32-7.00) id AF9A818008E; Mon, 09 Sep 2002 06:18:18 >>>Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2002 06:18:18 -0800 >>>to: info@cherokeepharmacy.com >>>from: kim@netsourcery.com >>>Subject: Web Site Contact >>>MIME-Version: 1.0 >>>Content-Type: text/html;charset=us-ascii >>>Message-Id: <200209090618412.SM01176@hfd-www.netsourcery.com> >>>X-RCPT-TO: >>>Status: U >>>X-UIDL: 318584619 >>> >>> >>>Notice the difference in the Received time and the Date time. >>>I am in Tennessee (Eastern Daylight Time) and the server is in California >>>(Pacific Daylight Time), I send the message this morning at 9:18am, >>>therefore... >>> >>>The Received setting shows the time as, which is correct. >>>The Date settings shows the time as -0800, which is 1 hour >>>wrong. >>> >>>From what I understand, the Received setting is provided by the Mail >>>Server and in this case, the Date setting is provided by WebCatalog's >>>Emailer. >>> >>>So, my assumption is that Emailer is not seeing the Daylight >>>savings time. >>> >>>When Kenneth Grome asked about this problem last week, someone mentioned >>>that it was a bug that had been corrected in the latest version (4.5.0 ?), >>>but according to my testing, the bug still has not been fixed. >>> >>>Now, I don't understand how Emailer works, but from what I do >understand... >>>the server has two clock references. >>>The first is the actual system clock, then the second would be the OS's >>>interpretation of that clock, which includes Daylight Savings >>>time. >>> >>>I would like to know where Emailer gathers the time information... is it >>from >>>the system clock of from the OS? >>> >>>Any ideas on how to resolve this issue? Are there any Emailer files that >>>could be altered in order to solve this problem? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>------------------------------------------------------------- >>>This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>> the mailing list . >>>To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >> >>>Web Archive of this list is at: http://search.smithmicro.com/ >>> >> >> >> >>------------------------------------------------------------- >>This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >>To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >> >>Web Archive of this list is at: http://search.smithmicro.com/ >> >> >> >>------------------------------------------------------------- >>This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >>To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > >>Web Archive of this list is at: http://search.smithmicro.com/ >> > > > >------------------------------------------------------------- >This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . >To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > >Web Archive of this list is at: http://search.smithmicro.com/ > > > >------------------------------------------------------------- >This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . >To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >Web Archive of this list is at: http://search.smithmicro.com/ >------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . 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