Re: [include file=filename.inc&strip=t]

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It keeps the original formatting.
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texte = Is there a way for the parser to defferentiate between the EOL's that it has inserted as a side effect of processing the code versus the ones that have been placed in code by the developer?----- Original Message ----- From: Scott Anderson To: WebCatalog Talk Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002 6:43 AM Subject: Re: [include file=filename.inc&strip=t] > One idea that comes to mind is the introduction of a post-parse action. > This action could take the form of a WebDNA code block, which could be > persisted in the admin prefs. This code block would then be applied to all > parsed results, just before being returned to the webserver. It would then > be simple matter to define a WebDNA post-parse block of code to strip out > EOL's (or whatever), and this would be applied to every template processed. > Any feedback? > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: WebCatalog Talk > > [mailto:WebDNA-Talk@talk.smithmicro.com]On Behalf > > Of John Peacock > > Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 10:21 AM > > To: WebCatalog Talk > > Subject: RFE: [include file=filename.inc&strip=t] > > > > > > Working with the two include files I just posted, I was again > > reminded how > > stupid WebDNA is with regard to extraneous whitespace like > > EOL characters. > > Sure, when displayed to a HTML browser, multiple EOL's or > > spaces will be > > supressed. However, just looking at the maze of [!][/!] > > contexts I had to put > > in that file emphasizes that this is poorly designed behavior. > > > > I have long argued that only a handful of contexts require > > maintaining the EOL > > characters ([sendmail] and [writefile] being the two most > > obvious). Every > > single other context could easily strip EOL's without > > interfering in the coding > > in the slightest. Grant shot me down, I think because it > > would mean branching > > the parser to know when to strip and when not to strip, based > > on context. > > > > Hence, my suggestion that the [include] context at the very > > least include a > > strip=t option (defaults to F) so that it would be much > > easier to write user > > defined functions. I want to return only the text I want to > > return, without > > extraneous EOL characters, and without having to load up my > > source code with an > > unreadable mass of [!][/!] contexts. > > > > In fact, if the parser were altered to support this for all > > contexts, defaulting > > to F, I could reduce the size of my pages by a significant > > percentage, just by > > supressing those stupid EOL's. > > > > When writing CGI code in Perl, I usually turn off the extra > > EOL's after I have > > debugged the code. It makes view source less useful, but it > > has a definite > > impact on how fast the page loads to have all of the HTML on > > basically a couple > > of lines. > > > > Thanks > > > > John > > > > -- > > John Peacock > > Director of Information Research and Technology > > Rowman & Littlefield Publishing Group > > 4720 Boston Way > > Lanham, MD 20706 > > 301-459-3366 x.5010 > > fax 301-429-5747 > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > > the mailing list . > > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > > > > Web Archive of this list is at: http://search.smithmicro.com/ > > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > Web Archive of this list is at: http://search.smithmicro.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://search.smithmicro.com/ Associated Messages, from the most recent to the oldest:

    
  1. Re: [include file=filename.inc&strip=t] (Rob Marquardt 2002)
  2. Re: [include file=filename.inc&strip=t] (Brian Fries 2002)
  3. Re: [include file=filename.inc&strip=t] (Donovan 2002)
  4. Re: [include file=filename.inc&strip=t] (Louis A Perosi 2002)
  5. Re: [include file=filename.inc&strip=t] (Brian Fries 2002)
  6. Re: [include file=filename.inc&strip=t] (Donovan 2002)
  7. Re: [include file=filename.inc&strip=t] (Brian Fries 2002)
  8. Re: [include file=filename.inc&strip=t] (Kenneth Grome 2002)
  9. Re: [include file=filename.inc&strip=t] (Scott Anderson 2002)
  10. Re: [include file=filename.inc&strip=t] (Brian Fries 2002)
  11. Re: [include file=filename.inc&strip=t] (Scott Anderson 2002)
  12. Re: [include file=filename.inc&strip=t] (Scott Anderson 2002)
  13. Re: [include file=filename.inc&strip=t] (Brian Fries 2002)
  14. Re: [include file=filename.inc&strip=t] (Brian Fries 2002)
  15. Re: [include file=filename.inc&strip=t] (Donovan 2002)
  16. Re: [include file=filename.inc&strip=t] (Scott Anderson 2002)
  17. Re: [include file=filename.inc&strip=t] (Scott Anderson 2002)
  18. Re: [include file=filename.inc&strip=t] (Andrew Simpson 2002)
  19. Re: [include file=filename.inc&strip=t] (Larry Goodhew 2002)
  20. Re: [include file=filename.inc&strip=t] (John Peacock 2002)
  21. Re: [include file=filename.inc&strip=t] (Alain Russell 2002)
  22. Re: [include file=filename.inc&strip=t] (Scott Anderson 2002)
  23. Re: RFE: [include file=filename.inc&strip=t] (Brian Fries 2002)
  24. Re: RFE: [include file=filename.inc&strip=t] (Gary Krockover 2002)
  25. Re: RFE: [include file=filename.inc&strip=t] (Brian Fries 2002)
  26. Re: [include file=filename.inc&strip=t] (Scott Anderson 2002)
  27. RFE: [include file=filename.inc&strip=t] (John Peacock 2002)
Is there a way for the parser to defferentiate between the EOL's that it has inserted as a side effect of processing the code versus the ones that have been placed in code by the developer?----- Original Message ----- From: Scott Anderson To: WebCatalog Talk Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002 6:43 AM Subject: Re: [include file=filename.inc&strip=t] > One idea that comes to mind is the introduction of a post-parse action. > This action could take the form of a WebDNA code block, which could be > persisted in the admin prefs. This code block would then be applied to all > parsed results, just before being returned to the webserver. It would then > be simple matter to define a WebDNA post-parse block of code to strip out > EOL's (or whatever), and this would be applied to every template processed. > Any feedback? > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: WebCatalog Talk > > [mailto:WebDNA-Talk@talk.smithmicro.com]On Behalf > > Of John Peacock > > Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 10:21 AM > > To: WebCatalog Talk > > Subject: RFE: [include file=filename.inc&strip=t] > > > > > > Working with the two include files I just posted, I was again > > reminded how > > stupid WebDNA is with regard to extraneous whitespace like > > EOL characters. > > Sure, when displayed to a HTML browser, multiple EOL's or > > spaces will be > > supressed. However, just looking at the maze of [!][/!] > > contexts I had to put > > in that file emphasizes that this is poorly designed behavior. > > > > I have long argued that only a handful of contexts require > > maintaining the EOL > > characters ([sendmail] and [writefile] being the two most > > obvious). Every > > single other context could easily strip EOL's without > > interfering in the coding > > in the slightest. Grant shot me down, I think because it > > would mean branching > > the parser to know when to strip and when not to strip, based > > on context. > > > > Hence, my suggestion that the [include] context at the very > > least include a > > strip=t option (defaults to F) so that it would be much > > easier to write user > > defined functions. I want to return only the text I want to > > return, without > > extraneous EOL characters, and without having to load up my > > source code with an > > unreadable mass of [!][/!] contexts. > > > > In fact, if the parser were altered to support this for all > > contexts, defaulting > > to F, I could reduce the size of my pages by a significant > > percentage, just by > > supressing those stupid EOL's. > > > > When writing CGI code in Perl, I usually turn off the extra > > EOL's after I have > > debugged the code. It makes view source less useful, but it > > has a definite > > impact on how fast the page loads to have all of the HTML on > > basically a couple > > of lines. > > > > Thanks > > > > John > > > > -- > > John Peacock > > Director of Information Research and Technology > > Rowman & Littlefield Publishing Group > > 4720 Boston Way > > Lanham, MD 20706 > > 301-459-3366 x.5010 > > fax 301-429-5747 > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > > the mailing list . > > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > > > > Web Archive of this list is at: http://search.smithmicro.com/ > > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > Web Archive of this list is at: http://search.smithmicro.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://search.smithmicro.com/ Andrew Simpson

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