Re: My new discussion forum

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2003


It keeps the original formatting.
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texte = I hate to sound like a stick in the mud, but this is not the first WebDNA help forum and it will probably not be used as much as we would like. A few months ago I posted an entire site dedicated to WebDNA www.webdnadev.net It has areas to allow users to upload scripts, advertise hosting or coding services, post links to sites they have coded with WebDNA and more importantly a WebDNA forum. Overall, the site gets a good amount of hits each day and many of the webDNA community has posted a lot of data up there....with the exception of the Forum. I see the same situation with the forum that SMSI placed up there. Unfortunately there just does not seem enough users to warrant a forum right now.And even I am guilty of this because if I want a question answered, I place it on the talk list. The responses are much quicker and plentiful. The only other way I could think of to get questions answered by more users in the Forum was to email the posted questions to all the users who elect to receive them or even tie it into my Email List Server. Just need to find a way to get the list server replies placed back into the forum for archival purposes. Right now you can elect to receive all replies to your post via email for 30 days but that does not help you get users to place a reply any quicker.just my 2cents....Brian www.webdnadev.net ----- Original Message ----- From: Claude Gelinas To: WebDNA Talk Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 11:51 AM Subject: Re: My new discussion forum > Hi Brian, > > As I'm sure you noticed, we can't send attachments with our messages to > the list so it's tough to share code snippets or even little site > frames. This may have slowed the sharing of our best scripts over the > years so this is all about to change since we can post full HTML > messages in the forum! This being said, the list saved my life time and > again ; ) > > I know it's hard to imagine a vibrant WebDNA community since, to this > day, a simple Google search shows how this is badly missing but I'm > convinced it will happen with http://webmaster.mbnx.net/ because quite > frankly, we need it. > > The forum format might even bring more people to WebDNA since over > time, we'll be posting some very valuable snippets and this will > convince the watchers that the language really is easy to use and > deploy. > > I hope this answers your message well, > > > > On Thursday, March 13, 2003, at 11:17 AM, Brian Fries wrote: > > > In the years I've been on this list, there have been a number of > > attempts by various folks to establish alternative discussion systems > > such as the nice forum you've got set up. The problem has always been > > that there are simply not enough WebDNA developers out here to provide > > sufficient discussion traffic for multiple venues, and separating by > > OS divides the developer pool up even further. > > > > Hopefully, with the new product suite and marketing focus at SMSI, > > there will be a larger pool of developers to draw from in the future > > and multiple discussion venues will make more sense. In the meantime, > > I'll stick to this list as my single support venue - I don't have time > > to keep up with multiple venues, and the traffic on this list seems to > > hit a happy medium volume. Enough to be useful, not so much as to be a > > hinderance. > > > > Just my thoughts... > > > > Brian > > > > On Thursday, March 13, 2003, at 07:19 AM, Claude Gelinas wrote: > > > >> Hi Gary, > >> > >> I've always valued your comments very much and my first impression > >> was that WinXP, MacOS X and OpenSource people really wanted to have > >> their own environment to discuss the webmaster issues pertaining to > >> their specific environment. Now, WebDNA has a fantastic language > >> offered on all three platforms and although I might eventually think > >> of rearranging the setup, I'll try it like that for a bit and see if > >> there's an interest from OS-minded webmasters. > >> > >> My guess is that some WebDNA questions might also be related to the > >> OS you're running it on so having three distinct forums to discuss > >> WebDNA might someday turn out to be a sizeable advantage. > >> Nevertheless, I'm keeping your recommendation close! > >> > >> Just so you know, the forum is running on phpBB (the best, in my > >> opinion) which is basically a PHP script pulling data from a MySQL > >> database server. It's the most solid programming duo I've ever worked > >> with but it's nowhere as easy to code as WebDNA. > >> > >> Thank you very much for your feedback on http://webmaster.mbnx.net/ > >> > >> > >> On Thursday, March 13, 2003, at 10:05 AM, Gary Krockover wrote: > >> > >>> The problem is though, that someone that wants to discuss WebDNA (or > >>> PHP or > >>> MySQL or whatever) in GENERAL would have to cross-post the same > >>> message to > >>> each of the OS's in order for everyone to see it. > >>> > >>> FWIW, my suggestion for the categories would be: > >>> > >>> Operating System > >>> -Windows > >>> -Mac > >>> -Linux/Unix > >>> > >>> Web Server Solutions > >>> -Apache > >>> -IIS > >>> -Webstar > >>> -iTools > >>> etc... > >>> > >>> Programming Languages > >>> etc... > >>> > >>> Databases > >>> etc... > >>> > >>> Software > >>> etc... > >>> > >>> In otherwords, eliminate the choose your favorite OS since your > >>> pigeon > >>> holing people that might otherwise have a question or topic that > >>> isn't > >>> necessarily restricted by the OS. > >>> > >>> My $.02. The boards look nice, is that Phorum that you're using for > >>> it? > >>> > >>> GK > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>> You're both absolutely right and should've thought about that > >>>> myself: > >>>> > >>>> http://webmaster.mbnx.net/ > >>>> > >>>> The WebDNA language is now discussable on all three platform > >>>> forums! > >>>> It's great to know we'll all be able to have a real forum to talk > >>>> about > >>>> our favorite web language, the WebDNA. > >>>> > >>>> Cheers ; ) > >>>> > >>>> On Wednesday, March 12, 2003, at 08:45 PM, Kimberly D. Walls wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Yah, me too. The site looks very exciting, but WebDNA for Mac is > >>>>> useless to > >>>>> me. Sorry. > >>> > >>> > >>> ------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > >>> the mailing list . > >>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > >>> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > >>> > >>> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ > >>> > >>> > >> > >> -- > >> Claude Gelinas, Chief Technology Officer > >> SuperJobs.net Online Employment Central > >> > >> Mailto:cgelinas@superjobs.net > >> http://www.superjobs.net/ > >> > >> Phone: (418) 657-6184 > >> Toll free: 1 866 783-2321 > >> > >> Where dynamic employers find talented candidates. > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------------------------------------- > >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > >> the mailing list . > >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > >> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > >> > >> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ > >> > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > > the mailing list . > > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > > > > Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ > > > > > > -- > Claude Gelinas, Chief Technology Officer > SuperJobs.net Online Employment Central > > Mailto:cgelinas@superjobs.net > http://www.superjobs.net/ > > Phone: (418) 657-6184 > Toll free: 1 866 783-2321 > > Where dynamic employers find talented candidates. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ > ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . 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  1. Re: My new discussion forum (Gary Krockover 2003)
  2. Re: My new discussion forum (Brian Boegershausen 2003)
  3. Re: My new discussion forum (Claude Gelinas 2003)
  4. Re: My new discussion forum (Brian Fries 2003)
  5. Re: My new discussion forum (Kimberly D. Walls 2003)
  6. Re: My new discussion forum (Claude Gelinas 2003)
  7. Re: My new discussion forum (Clint Davis 2003)
  8. Re: My new discussion forum (Gary Krockover 2003)
  9. Re: My new discussion forum (Claude Gelinas 2003)
  10. Re: My new discussion forum (Kimberly D. Walls 2003)
  11. Re: My new discussion forum (Brian Boegershausen 2003)
  12. My new discussion forum (Claude Gelinas 2003)
I hate to sound like a stick in the mud, but this is not the first WebDNA help forum and it will probably not be used as much as we would like. A few months ago I posted an entire site dedicated to WebDNA www.webdnadev.net It has areas to allow users to upload scripts, advertise hosting or coding services, post links to sites they have coded with WebDNA and more importantly a WebDNA forum. Overall, the site gets a good amount of hits each day and many of the webDNA community has posted a lot of data up there....with the exception of the Forum. I see the same situation with the forum that SMSI placed up there. Unfortunately there just does not seem enough users to warrant a forum right now.And even I am guilty of this because if I want a question answered, I place it on the Talk List. The responses are much quicker and plentiful. The only other way I could think of to get questions answered by more users in the Forum was to email the posted questions to all the users who elect to receive them or even tie it into my Email List Server. Just need to find a way to get the list server replies placed back into the forum for archival purposes. Right now you can elect to receive all replies to your post via email for 30 days but that does not help you get users to place a reply any quicker.just my 2cents....Brian www.webdnadev.net ----- Original Message ----- From: Claude Gelinas To: WebDNA Talk Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 11:51 AM Subject: Re: My new discussion forum > Hi Brian, > > As I'm sure you noticed, we can't send attachments with our messages to > the list so it's tough to share code snippets or even little site > frames. This may have slowed the sharing of our best scripts over the > years so this is all about to change since we can post full HTML > messages in the forum! This being said, the list saved my life time and > again ; ) > > I know it's hard to imagine a vibrant WebDNA community since, to this > day, a simple Google search shows how this is badly missing but I'm > convinced it will happen with http://webmaster.mbnx.net/ because quite > frankly, we need it. > > The forum format might even bring more people to WebDNA since over > time, we'll be posting some very valuable snippets and this will > convince the watchers that the language really is easy to use and > deploy. > > I hope this answers your message well, > > > > On Thursday, March 13, 2003, at 11:17 AM, Brian Fries wrote: > > > In the years I've been on this list, there have been a number of > > attempts by various folks to establish alternative discussion systems > > such as the nice forum you've got set up. The problem has always been > > that there are simply not enough WebDNA developers out here to provide > > sufficient discussion traffic for multiple venues, and separating by > > OS divides the developer pool up even further. > > > > Hopefully, with the new product suite and marketing focus at SMSI, > > there will be a larger pool of developers to draw from in the future > > and multiple discussion venues will make more sense. In the meantime, > > I'll stick to this list as my single support venue - I don't have time > > to keep up with multiple venues, and the traffic on this list seems to > > hit a happy medium volume. Enough to be useful, not so much as to be a > > hinderance. > > > > Just my thoughts... > > > > Brian > > > > On Thursday, March 13, 2003, at 07:19 AM, Claude Gelinas wrote: > > > >> Hi Gary, > >> > >> I've always valued your comments very much and my first impression > >> was that WinXP, MacOS X and OpenSource people really wanted to have > >> their own environment to discuss the webmaster issues pertaining to > >> their specific environment. Now, WebDNA has a fantastic language > >> offered on all three platforms and although I might eventually think > >> of rearranging the setup, I'll try it like that for a bit and see if > >> there's an interest from OS-minded webmasters. > >> > >> My guess is that some WebDNA questions might also be related to the > >> OS you're running it on so having three distinct forums to discuss > >> WebDNA might someday turn out to be a sizeable advantage. > >> Nevertheless, I'm keeping your recommendation close! > >> > >> Just so you know, the forum is running on phpBB (the best, in my > >> opinion) which is basically a PHP script pulling data from a MySQL > >> database server. It's the most solid programming duo I've ever worked > >> with but it's nowhere as easy to code as WebDNA. > >> > >> Thank you very much for your feedback on http://webmaster.mbnx.net/ > >> > >> > >> On Thursday, March 13, 2003, at 10:05 AM, Gary Krockover wrote: > >> > >>> The problem is though, that someone that wants to discuss WebDNA (or > >>> PHP or > >>> MySQL or whatever) in GENERAL would have to cross-post the same > >>> message to > >>> each of the OS's in order for everyone to see it. > >>> > >>> FWIW, my suggestion for the categories would be: > >>> > >>> Operating System > >>> -Windows > >>> -Mac > >>> -Linux/Unix > >>> > >>> Web Server Solutions > >>> -Apache > >>> -IIS > >>> -Webstar > >>> -iTools > >>> etc... > >>> > >>> Programming Languages > >>> etc... > >>> > >>> Databases > >>> etc... > >>> > >>> Software > >>> etc... > >>> > >>> In otherwords, eliminate the choose your favorite OS since your > >>> pigeon > >>> holing people that might otherwise have a question or topic that > >>> isn't > >>> necessarily restricted by the OS. > >>> > >>> My $.02. The boards look nice, is that Phorum that you're using for > >>> it? > >>> > >>> GK > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>> You're both absolutely right and should've thought about that > >>>> myself: > >>>> > >>>> http://webmaster.mbnx.net/ > >>>> > >>>> The WebDNA language is now discussable on all three platform > >>>> forums! > >>>> It's great to know we'll all be able to have a real forum to talk > >>>> about > >>>> our favorite web language, the WebDNA. > >>>> > >>>> Cheers ; ) > >>>> > >>>> On Wednesday, March 12, 2003, at 08:45 PM, Kimberly D. Walls wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Yah, me too. The site looks very exciting, but WebDNA for Mac is > >>>>> useless to > >>>>> me. Sorry. > >>> > >>> > >>> ------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > >>> the mailing list . > >>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > >>> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > >>> > >>> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ > >>> > >>> > >> > >> -- > >> Claude Gelinas, Chief Technology Officer > >> SuperJobs.net Online Employment Central > >> > >> Mailto:cgelinas@superjobs.net > >> http://www.superjobs.net/ > >> > >> Phone: (418) 657-6184 > >> Toll free: 1 866 783-2321 > >> > >> Where dynamic employers find talented candidates. > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------------------------------------- > >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > >> the mailing list . > >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > >> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > >> > >> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ > >> > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > > the mailing list . > > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > > > > Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ > > > > > > -- > Claude Gelinas, Chief Technology Officer > SuperJobs.net Online Employment Central > > Mailto:cgelinas@superjobs.net > http://www.superjobs.net/ > > Phone: (418) 657-6184 > Toll free: 1 866 783-2321 > > Where dynamic employers find talented candidates. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ > ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . 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