Re: SSL Certs

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2003


It keeps the original formatting.
numero = 50808
interpreted = N
texte = >My question was more conceptual than technical. I see the issues of >secure transit and reputable business as having two differing >personalities. To liken to the 'real' world, I might find myself in >some seedy downtown fast-mart and not trust the guy behind the >counter with my credit card, but if I use a secure ATM in the corner >I know that I can buy my bag of chips and feel relatively sure that >even if the business owner is a crook, my bank account is relatively >safe. To turn to the cyber-situation, I have built up a >considerable customer base that knows that I'm a trustworthy >business, who I would like to dispense with the reputation side of >things and focus only on making sure that their data isn't sniffed >in transit. I think the two issues should not be so intertwined, or >at least there should be a friendlier, less alarmist way to >accomplish a secure connection with someone you know (or don't know, >for that matter). If you know me and trust me, I should only have >to provide a secure connection between you and me so that _others_ >do not interfere with our relationship. I want a secure cert that >pops a warning that says we don't know who Michael Davis is, but he >certainly has a very secure, encrypted connection that he's >providing for your sensitive data. Proceed at your discretion. >Not this fear-mongering, insurance policy pleasing crap that >Microsoft deploys. Does that make sense? Sure it makes sense, but unless you can make your clients use a browser that has a nicer warning message, or install your certificate into your client's browsers before they visit your site, there's no other way I can think of that's going to let them use SSL with your private certificate and not get a scary warning message ... -- Sincerely, Kenneth Grome ------------------------------------------------------------- My programmers will write WebDNA code for you at $27 an hour! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ Associated Messages, from the most recent to the oldest:

    
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>My question was more conceptual than technical. I see the issues of >secure transit and reputable business as having two differing >personalities. To liken to the 'real' world, I might find myself in >some seedy downtown fast-mart and not trust the guy behind the >counter with my credit card, but if I use a secure ATM in the corner >I know that I can buy my bag of chips and feel relatively sure that >even if the business owner is a crook, my bank account is relatively >safe. To turn to the cyber-situation, I have built up a >considerable customer base that knows that I'm a trustworthy >business, who I would like to dispense with the reputation side of >things and focus only on making sure that their data isn't sniffed >in transit. I think the two issues should not be so intertwined, or >at least there should be a friendlier, less alarmist way to >accomplish a secure connection with someone you know (or don't know, >for that matter). If you know me and trust me, I should only have >to provide a secure connection between you and me so that _others_ >do not interfere with our relationship. I want a secure cert that >pops a warning that says we don't know who Michael Davis is, but he >certainly has a very secure, encrypted connection that he's >providing for your sensitive data. Proceed at your discretion. >Not this fear-mongering, insurance policy pleasing crap that >Microsoft deploys. Does that make sense? Sure it makes sense, but unless you can make your clients use a browser that has a nicer warning message, or install your certificate into your client's browsers before they visit your site, there's no other way I can think of that's going to let them use SSL with your private certificate and not get a scary warning message ... -- Sincerely, Kenneth Grome ------------------------------------------------------------- My programmers will write WebDNA code for you at $27 an hour! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ Kenneth Grome

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