WebDNA FAQ or FAQs -- was "weird problem"

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2004


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texte = Sounds like we need a FAQ for posting to the Talk List. I think Ken's detailed message explains what to expect here and seems to mirror what I do when debugging my own code before posting here. Here's some free advice for those new here: Strip down to bare WebDNA. Are you seeing the right text where it needs to be? Use some sort of debugging code to see what variables have been used and what the values are. This let's you spot when things don't happen as you've planned. Strip down to bare HTML using hardcoded values, i.e. no WebDNA variables. Then roll in CSS a bit at a time. If everything "appears" right, then roll in Javascript to see if it behaves right. This should be standard practice for coders when trying to track something down, although I welcome other debugging tips (such as re-using working code libraries). You should be able to isolate the problem to either a WebDNA issue or an HTML/CSS/JS issue. If it's a WebDNA issue, check the archives to see if it's been solved before. As you might imagine, it's not productive to post questions that have been answered before, particularly recent ones. If the archives don't help, feel free to post here the WebDNA code that is not working. Without the code, it's impossible to spot the problem so you'll only get help, if any, in the form of educated guesses. When you have an HTML/CSS/JS (or any non-WebDNA) issue, put OT: (Off Topic) at the beginning of the subject line so others know that it's not a WebDNA issue. That way people can skip it quickly if they don't want to deal with OT issues. I think captures what most of us have been doing and expect. Bill -----Original Message----- From: Terry Wilson Sent: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 10:22:58 -0500 To: (WebDNA Talk) Subject: Re: FW: weird problem If I might chime in here... When I have a problem, I find that in the process extracting the essential code into an email, I usually discover the answer on my own. So there's more than one benefit for keeping postings concise. Terry >My suggestion for posting your original webdna code is even simpler: > >1- Remove all the HTML and javascript, then post ONLY the webdna >code. If we need to see your html we will ask for it, but 99 times >out of 100 we will not need to see it, and posting it (or >javascript) just discourages us from trying to help. ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ Associated Messages, from the most recent to the oldest:

    
  1. Re: WebDNA FAQ or FAQs -- was "weird problem" ( Kenneth Grome 2004)
  2. Re: WebDNA FAQ or FAQs -- was "weird problem" ( Jesse Proudman 2004)
  3. Re: WebDNA FAQ or FAQs -- was "weird problem" ( Kenneth Grome 2004)
  4. Re: WebDNA FAQ or FAQs -- was "weird problem" ( Jesse Proudman 2004)
  5. Re: WebDNA FAQ or FAQs -- was "weird problem" ( Kenneth Grome 2004)
  6. Re: WebDNA FAQ or FAQs -- was "weird problem" ( devaulw@onebox.com 2004)
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  8. Re: WebDNA FAQ or FAQs -- was "weird problem" ( John Peacock 2004)
  9. WebDNA FAQ or FAQs -- was "weird problem" ( devaulw@onebox.com 2004)
Sounds like we need a FAQ for posting to the Talk List. I think Ken's detailed message explains what to expect here and seems to mirror what I do when debugging my own code before posting here. Here's some free advice for those new here: Strip down to bare WebDNA. Are you seeing the right text where it needs to be? Use some sort of debugging code to see what variables have been used and what the values are. This let's you spot when things don't happen as you've planned. Strip down to bare HTML using hardcoded values, i.e. no WebDNA variables. Then roll in CSS a bit at a time. If everything "appears" right, then roll in Javascript to see if it behaves right. This should be standard practice for coders when trying to track something down, although I welcome other debugging tips (such as re-using working code libraries). You should be able to isolate the problem to either a WebDNA issue or an HTML/CSS/JS issue. If it's a WebDNA issue, check the archives to see if it's been solved before. As you might imagine, it's not productive to post questions that have been answered before, particularly recent ones. If the archives don't help, feel free to post here the WebDNA code that is not working. Without the code, it's impossible to spot the problem so you'll only get help, if any, in the form of educated guesses. When you have an HTML/CSS/JS (or any non-WebDNA) issue, put OT: (Off Topic) at the beginning of the subject line so others know that it's not a WebDNA issue. That way people can skip it quickly if they don't want to deal with OT issues. I think captures what most of us have been doing and expect. Bill -----Original Message----- From: Terry Wilson Sent: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 10:22:58 -0500 To: (WebDNA Talk) Subject: Re: FW: weird problem If I might chime in here... When I have a problem, I find that in the process extracting the essential code into an email, I usually discover the answer on my own. So there's more than one benefit for keeping postings concise. Terry >My suggestion for posting your original webdna code is even simpler: > >1- Remove all the HTML and javascript, then post ONLY the webdna >code. If we need to see your html we will ask for it, but 99 times >out of 100 we will not need to see it, and posting it (or >javascript) just discourages us from trying to help. ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ devaulw@onebox.com

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