Re: Here we go again...

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2006


It keeps the original formatting.
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texte = WebDNA is using flat file for storing data. It is not a relationship = database like MySQL. Also once your flat file grow beyond roughly 2 GB = (check with Network Admin to verify the size), you can't run data very = well. The go-around solution is to break down WebDNA database into = smaller chunks for faster performance. You really need Relationship = Database for scaleable application. -----Original Message----- From: WebDNA Talk [mailto:WebDNA-Talk@talk.smithmicro.com]On Behalf Of Kenneth Grome Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 4:55 AM To: WebDNA Talk Subject: Re: Here we go again... On Fri, 31 Mar 2006 07:05:55 -0500, Terry Wilson wrote: > ... you never know when you'll be required to start doing something a=20 > certain way; or at some point, an old solution just isn't good enough=20 > or fast enough any longer ... Example: A client of mine preferred webdna but his searches were too slow, so he = hired me to debug and fix them. His code was fine but the database = files were not configured to optimize webdna's performance, so I could = only recommend two options: (1) reconfigure the databases (not a good = solution because updated data files came from another source frequently) = .... or (2) switch to MySQL and give that a try ... =20 I really didn't know if MySQL could handle the task any faster than = webdna and I told him this, but he went for it anyways. He said webdna = hosting cost too much anyways, and since he wasn't committed to using it = on his server anyways (although he enjoyed personally mocking up web = sites because it's east for a non-programmer to use) he decided to go = with PHP and MySQL. The moment we switched his search times dropped from about 10 seconds to = less than two seconds. I think the reason is two-fold: (1) he had = database files that were too large for webdna to RAM-cache efficiently, = and (2) we were doing nested searches, and webdna is pretty slow = sometimes when using nested searches, especially with large db files. The bottom line is that he "outgrew" webdna for use on his server, and = now he's happy again with a faster free solution. I think this type of = situation is going to become more and more common as webdna continues to = be less and less aggressively developed, supported and marketed. Sincerely,=20 Kenneth Grome=20 owner@kengrome.com kengrome@gmail.com www.kengrome.com ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to = Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ Associated Messages, from the most recent to the oldest:

    
  1. Re: Here we go again... ( "Bess Ho" 2006)
  2. Re: Here we go again... ( Kenneth Grome 2006)
  3. Re: Here we go again... ( "sal danna" 2006)
  4. Re: Here we go again... ( "Bess Ho" 2006)
  5. Re: Here we go again... ( Kenneth Grome 2006)
  6. Re: Here we go again... ( "Bess Ho" 2006)
  7. Re: Here we go again...WebDNA - SQL- Clustering ( Kenneth Grome 2006)
  8. Re: Here we go again...WebDNA - SQL- Clustering ( "Bess Ho" 2006)
  9. Re: Here we go again...WebDNA - SQL- Clustering ( Donovan Brooke 2006)
  10. Re: Here we go again...WebDNA - SQL- Clustering ( "Bess Ho" 2006)
  11. Re: Here we go again...WebDNA - SQL- Clustering ( "Bess Ho" 2006)
  12. Re: Here we go again...WebDNA - SQL- Clustering ( Alex McCombie 2006)
  13. Re: Here we go again...WebDNA - SQL- Stored Procedures ( Alex McCombie 2006)
  14. Re: Here we go again...WebDNA - SQL- Clustering ( Donovan Brooke 2006)
  15. Re: Here we go again...WebDNA - SQL- Clustering ( Donovan Brooke 2006)
  16. Re: Here we go again...WebDNA - SQL- Clustering ( Adam O'Connor 2006)
  17. Re: Here we go again...WebDNA - SQL- Clustering ( nitai@computeroil.com 2006)
  18. Re: Here we go again...WebDNA - SQL- Clustering ( Donovan Brooke 2006)
  19. Re: Here we go again...WebDNA - SQL- Clustering ( Alex McCombie 2006)
  20. Re: Here we go again...WebDNA - SQL- Stored Procedures ( Adam O'Connor 2006)
  21. Re: Here we go again...WebDNA - SQL- Clustering ( nitai@computeroil.com 2006)
  22. Re: Here we go again... ( nitai@computeroil.com 2006)
  23. Re: Here we go again... ( Kenneth Grome 2006)
  24. Re: Here we go again...WebDNA - SQL- Clustering ( Donovan Brooke 2006)
  25. Re: Here we go again... ( Donovan Brooke 2006)
  26. Re: Here we go again...WebDNA - SQL- Clustering ( Alex McCombie 2006)
  27. Re: Here we go again... ( Kenneth Grome 2006)
  28. Re: Here we go again...WebDNA - SQL- Clustering ( Bob Minor 2006)
  29. Re: Here we go again... ( "Bess Ho" 2006)
  30. Re: Here we go again... ( "Bess Ho" 2006)
  31. Re: Here we go again... ( Donovan Brooke 2006)
  32. Re: Here we go again...WebDNA - SQL- Clustering ( Stuart Tremain 2006)
  33. Re: Here we go again...WebDNA - SQL- Clustering ( Adam O'Connor 2006)
  34. Re: Here we go again... ( "Bess Ho" 2006)
  35. Re: Here we go again... ( Adam O'Connor 2006)
  36. Re: Here we go again... ( Adam O'Connor 2006)
  37. Re: Here we go again... ( Marc Thompson 2006)
  38. Re: Here we go again... ( "Bess Ho" 2006)
  39. Re: Here we go again... ( "Bess Ho" 2006)
  40. Re: Here we go again... ( Donovan Brooke 2006)
  41. Re: Here we go again... ( Adam O'Connor 2006)
  42. Re: Here we go again... ( "Bess Ho" 2006)
  43. Re: Here we go again... ( "Bess Ho" 2006)
  44. Re: Here we go again... ( Pat McCormick 2006)
  45. Re: Here we go again... ( Pat McCormick 2006)
  46. Re: Here we go again... ( "Bess Ho" 2006)
  47. Re: Here we go again... ( "Bess Ho" 2006)
  48. Re: Here we go again... ( Pat McCormick 2006)
  49. Re: Here we go again... ( Chris 2006)
  50. Re: Here we go again... ( Terry Wilson 2006)
  51. Re: Here we go again... ( Donovan Brooke 2006)
  52. Re: Here we go again... ( Donovan Brooke 2006)
  53. Re: Here we go again... ( Adam O'Connor 2006)
  54. Re: Here we go again... ( Kenneth Grome 2006)
  55. Re: Here we go again... ( Kenneth Grome 2006)
  56. Re: Here we go again... ( "Dan Strong" 2006)
  57. Re: Here we go again... ( "Dan Strong" 2006)
  58. Re: Here we go again... ( Donovan Brooke 2006)
  59. Re: Here we go again... ( Adam O'Connor 2006)
  60. Re: Here we go again... ( Donovan Brooke 2006)
  61. Re: Here we go again... ( Pat McCormick 2006)
  62. Re: Here we go again... was: DDEConnect not working ( Robie Blair 2006)
  63. Re: Here we go again... ( "Bess Ho" 2006)
  64. Re: Here we go again... ( Kenneth Grome 2006)
  65. Re: Here we go again... ( Terry Wilson 2006)
  66. Re: Here we go again... ( Larry Hewitt 2006)
  67. Re: Here we go again... ( Phil Herring 2006)
  68. Re: Here we go again... ( Jesse Proudman 2006)
  69. Re: Here we go again... ( Stuart Tremain 2006)
  70. Re: Here we go again... ( Jesse Proudman 2006)
  71. Re: Here we go again... ( Stuart Tremain 2006)
  72. Re: Here we go again... ( Jesse Proudman 2006)
  73. Re: Here we go again... ( "Dan Strong" 2006)
  74. Re: Here we go again... ( Jesse Proudman 2006)
  75. Re: Here we go again... ( "Dan Strong" 2006)
  76. Re: Here we go again... ( Stuart Tremain 2006)
  77. Re: Here we go again... was: DDEConnect not working ( Chris 2006)
  78. Re: Here we go again... was: DDEConnect not working ( Kenneth Grome 2006)
  79. Re: Here we go again... was: DDEConnect not working ( Chris 2006)
  80. Re: Here we go again... was: DDEConnect not working ( Kenneth Grome 2006)
  81. Re: Here we go again... was: DDEConnect not working ( Chris 2006)
  82. Re: Here we go again... was: DDEConnect not working ( Kenneth Grome 2006)
  83. Re: Here we go again... ( Donovan Brooke 2006)
  84. Re: Here we go again... was: DDEConnect not working ( Chris 2006)
  85. Re: Here we go again... ( Terry Wilson 2006)
  86. Re: Here we go again... was: DDEConnect not working ( Kenneth Grome 2006)
  87. Re: Here we go again... was: DDEConnect not working ( Stuart Tremain 2006)
  88. Re: Here we go again... was: DDEConnect not working ( "Dan Strong" 2006)
  89. Re: Here we go again... was: DDEConnect not working ( Stuart Tremain 2006)
  90. Re: Here we go again... was: DDEConnect not working ( Jay Van Vark 2006)
  91. Re: Here we go again... was: DDEConnect not working ( Stuart Tremain 2006)
  92. Re: Here we go again... was: DDEConnect not working ( "Bess Ho" 2006)
  93. Re: Here we go again... was: DDEConnect not working ( Gary Krockover 2006)
  94. Here we go again... was: DDEConnect not working ( "Dan Strong" 2006)
WebDNA is using flat file for storing data. It is not a relationship = database like MySQL. Also once your flat file grow beyond roughly 2 GB = (check with Network Admin to verify the size), you can't run data very = well. The go-around solution is to break down WebDNA database into = smaller chunks for faster performance. You really need Relationship = Database for scaleable application. -----Original Message----- From: WebDNA Talk [mailto:WebDNA-Talk@talk.smithmicro.com]On Behalf Of Kenneth Grome Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 4:55 AM To: WebDNA Talk Subject: Re: Here we go again... On Fri, 31 Mar 2006 07:05:55 -0500, Terry Wilson wrote: > ... you never know when you'll be required to start doing something a=20 > certain way; or at some point, an old solution just isn't good enough=20 > or fast enough any longer ... Example: A client of mine preferred webdna but his searches were too slow, so he = hired me to debug and fix them. His code was fine but the database = files were not configured to optimize webdna's performance, so I could = only recommend two options: (1) reconfigure the databases (not a good = solution because updated data files came from another source frequently) = .... or (2) switch to MySQL and give that a try ... =20 I really didn't know if MySQL could handle the task any faster than = webdna and I told him this, but he went for it anyways. He said webdna = hosting cost too much anyways, and since he wasn't committed to using it = on his server anyways (although he enjoyed personally mocking up web = sites because it's east for a non-programmer to use) he decided to go = with PHP and MySQL. The moment we switched his search times dropped from about 10 seconds to = less than two seconds. I think the reason is two-fold: (1) he had = database files that were too large for webdna to RAM-cache efficiently, = and (2) we were doing nested searches, and webdna is pretty slow = sometimes when using nested searches, especially with large db files. The bottom line is that he "outgrew" webdna for use on his server, and = now he's happy again with a faster free solution. I think this type of = situation is going to become more and more common as webdna continues to = be less and less aggressively developed, supported and marketed. Sincerely,=20 Kenneth Grome=20 owner@kengrome.com kengrome@gmail.com www.kengrome.com ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to = Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ "Bess Ho"

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