Re: WebDNA Feature Request
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texte = Nitai @ ComputerOil wrote: > PHP and ColdFusion and probably others have exactly this abstraction > layer to connect my application to any data source I want. We as web > developers only have to select the data source and that's it. All of my > code still works as expected and there is no need to reconfigure my > application. I'm not saying it isn't possible, or that it isn't something that would be useful. I am only saying that I think you (and Alex) are (in my estimation) very much the exception rather than the rule. If we are talking about allocating scarce resources, I would rather have SMSI focus on things that make the language useful for everyone, not just the power developers. Over the years I've been peripherally involved with DBI/DBD::Oracle in the Perl world, in the sense that I've installed it multiple times on a wide variety of platforms, including VMS, and submitted patches upstream to fix things that didn't work. It is a surprisingly tricky thing to support native database access on multiple O/S's, especially when the database vendor is not helpful (or in the case of Micro$loth, actively hostile to the exercise). The reason that WebDNA has ODBC support at all was that they were able to use someone else's library. I'm not confident that there is sufficient programming depth at SMSI to design and execute a database abstraction layer. Please remember that WebDNA runs on Windows, O/S X, O/S 9.x, and various Linux incarnations. As such, providing *crossplatform* capabilities will necessarily limit features. It would be relatively straightforward to support MS SQL on Windows, but it is very hard to do so on other platforms, due to the total lack of developer support by the vendor. John -- John Peacock Director of Information Research and Technology Rowman & Littlefield Publishing Group 4501 Forbes Boulevard Suite H Lanham, MD 20706 301-459-3366 x.5010 fax 301-429-5748 ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list
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Nitai @ ComputerOil wrote: > PHP and ColdFusion and probably others have exactly this abstraction > layer to connect my application to any data source I want. We as web > developers only have to select the data source and that's it. All of my > code still works as expected and there is no need to reconfigure my > application. I'm not saying it isn't possible, or that it isn't something that would be useful. I am only saying that I think you (and Alex) are (in my estimation) very much the exception rather than the rule. If we are talking about allocating scarce resources, I would rather have SMSI focus on things that make the language useful for everyone, not just the power developers. Over the years I've been peripherally involved with DBI/DBD::Oracle in the Perl world, in the sense that I've installed it multiple times on a wide variety of platforms, including VMS, and submitted patches upstream to fix things that didn't work. It is a surprisingly tricky thing to support native database access on multiple O/S's, especially when the database vendor is not helpful (or in the case of Micro$loth, actively hostile to the exercise). The reason that WebDNA has ODBC support at all was that they were able to use someone else's library. I'm not confident that there is sufficient programming depth at SMSI to design and execute a database abstraction layer. Please remember that WebDNA runs on Windows, O/S X, O/S 9.x, and various Linux incarnations. As such, providing *crossplatform* capabilities will necessarily limit features. It would be relatively straightforward to support MS SQL on Windows, but it is very hard to do so on other platforms, due to the total lack of developer support by the vendor. John -- John Peacock Director of Information Research and Technology Rowman & Littlefield Publishing Group 4501 Forbes Boulevard Suite H Lanham, MD 20706 301-459-3366 x.5010 fax 301-429-5748 ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/
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