Re: [WebDNA] WebDNA as cgi app (was WebSite Examples)
This WebDNA talk-list message is from 2008
It keeps the original formatting.
numero = 100047
interpreted = N
texte = I've put "invisible" in quotes because the PHP session ID is normally not in the URL (it does not need to be) and no, it is not a cookie. It is known by PHP and bound to the browser. Works always, even if the user turns cookies off. It is shown if you display it. The user has no way to block or manipulate it. It remains the same as long as there is a session_start() called on top of the page. And it dies, hm, next week? ;-) Don't know. :::::::: Peter Ostry On 30.06.2008, at 02:37, Bob Minor wrote: > Well the php sessions and asp sessions for that matter are cookies, > nothing really invisible. > > On Jun 29, 2008, at 6:48 PM, William DeVaul wrote: > >> What is an invisible session id? I thought sessions were either in >> the URL as a parameter or in a cookie. >> >> >> On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 3:37 PM, Peter Ostry
wrote: >>> On 29.06.2008, at 19:11, Donovan Brooke wrote: >>> >>>> ... some (official) work has been done to replace >>>> authentication and the system in >>>> favor >>>> of cookies. >>> >>> Cookies aren't bad to identify a machine but they can be >>> disabled. For ID's >>> I would prefer a kind of "invisible" session ID like PHP has. >>> >>> :::::::::: >>> Peter Ostry >>> >>> >>> >> > > Robert Minor > Director of Internet Services > ------------------------------------------------------------ > Cybermill Communications > http://www.cybermill.com http://www.merchantmaker.com > > Providing Ecommerce and interactive website development and > hosting services on Macintosh, Windows NT, *nix, and AS/400. > > Complete ddos proof hosting solutions and network services. >
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I've put "invisible" in quotes because the PHP session ID is normally not in the URL (it does not need to be) and no, it is not a cookie. It is known by PHP and bound to the browser. Works always, even if the user turns cookies off. It is shown if you display it. The user has no way to block or manipulate it. It remains the same as long as there is a session_start() called on top of the page. And it dies, hm, next week? ;-) Don't know. :::::::: Peter Ostry On 30.06.2008, at 02:37, Bob Minor wrote: > Well the php sessions and asp sessions for that matter are cookies, > nothing really invisible. > > On Jun 29, 2008, at 6:48 PM, William DeVaul wrote: > >> What is an invisible session id? I thought sessions were either in >> the URL as a parameter or in a cookie. >> >> >> On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 3:37 PM, Peter Ostry wrote: >>> On 29.06.2008, at 19:11, Donovan Brooke wrote: >>> >>>> ... some (official) work has been done to replace >>>> authentication and the [cart]"> system in >>>> favor >>>> of cookies. >>> >>> Cookies aren't bad to identify a machine but they can be >>> disabled. For ID's >>> I would prefer a kind of "invisible" session ID like PHP has. >>> >>> :::::::::: >>> Peter Ostry >>> >>> >>> >> > > Robert Minor > Director of Internet Services > ------------------------------------------------------------ > Cybermill Communications > http://www.cybermill.com http://www.merchantmaker.com > > Providing Ecommerce and interactive website development and > hosting services on Macintosh, Windows NT, *nix, and AS/400. > > Complete ddos proof hosting solutions and network services. >
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