[BULK] RE: [WebDNA] WebDNA for Windows Newbie Questions
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texte = Well, frustrated beyond belief, I am giving up on WebDNA. I have tried everything I can think of to get this product to run under Windows XP = Pro. I really want to thank Stuart for trying to help me out. I combed = through EVERY historical posting in the TalkList archive to no avail. I'm = doubly frustrated because it seems that some people did get the application running. Unfortunately, I am not one of them. It seems that several = people got WebDNA running with alternative Web Servers (not IIS) like Sambar, = but the servers mentioned are no longer available/supported. It seems that WebDNA is experiencing a resurgence, and I have enjoyed = being on the List for the past few days to see the community start to come = back to life. I enjoy learning new languages and products, but this one has = been a tough one. I will remain on the list for a few more days, and I may = even attempt an install on my Ubuntu server in a few days, but I am not very hopeful as this Windows experience has been a tough one. Thanks again to those that tried to help me. Sincerely, JD Ready -----Original Message----- From: Stuart Tremain [mailto:webdna@idfk.com.au]=20 Sent: Monday, September 15, 2008 6:37 PM To: talk@webdna.us Subject: Re: [WebDNA] WebDNA for Windows Newbie Questions JD I found this in the archives, it may help. I have only ever installed =20 on server platforms and there are probably some tricks to what you are =20 doing, especially the 500 error. http://dev.webdna.us/TalkListArchive/SubjectResults.tpl?command=3Dsearch&= db=3Dwe bdna-talk.db&Group1Field=3DSubject%2BBody%2BFrom&Group1data=3Dwindows%20X= P&group 1comp=3Dws&IDsort=3D1&IDtype=3Dnum&IDsdir=3Dde&max=3D15&startAt=3D16 Regards Stuart Tremain IDFK Web Developments AUSTRALIA webdna@idfk.com.au On 16/09/2008, at 10:15 AM, JD Ready wrote: > Thanks for the help Stuart. I really appreciate it. Unfortunately, I = > followed your instructions as well as I could. The problem is that > in IIS > 5.1 on Windows XP Pro, there is no "Web Services" folder (that I can =20 > find). > I am still getting HTTP 500 errors with nothing meaningful in the =20 > IIS logs > to go on. > > So I am still stuck. At this point, I'm getting quite frustrated > with the > process. I may try and get the application installed on my Ubuntu =20 > server, > but I know less about that server than I do about Windows. In the =20 > 90's, I > was an AIX administrator, and I have installed/run servers with =20 > FreeBSD, Red > Hat and Ubuntu, so I'm somewhat familiar with Linux/Unix. > > Anyway, if there is anyone else out there that can give me any other > Windows > suggestions, I would greatly appreciate it. As I said, I'm pretty > discouraged at this point, and I'm starting to wish that I didn't =20 > have to do > this project :-( > > Thanks! > > JD > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Stuart Tremain [mailto:webdna@idfk.com.au] > Sent: Monday, September 15, 2008 12:12 AM > To: talk@webdna.us > Subject: Re: [WebDNA] WebDNA Newbie Questions > > > JD > > Try this: > > Select Web Sites Folder - Right Click > Properties > Home Directory Tab > Set Execute Permissions to Scripts Only > Click Config Button > Mappings Tab click add > Set Executable path to $WebCat.dll (Usually > C:\Inetpub\scripts\WebCatalogEngine) > Set Extension to .TPL > OK to exit > > Select Web Services Folder - Right Click > Add a new Web Service Extension Wizard button > Set Extension Name to "WebCat" > Click add button to add path to $WebCat.dll (Usually > C:\Inetpub\scripts\WebCatalogEngine) > Check box "Set extension status to allowed" > OK to exit > > At root of IIS, Where it says "Computer Name" (local computer) - > Right Click > All Tasks - Save Config to Disk All Tasks - Restart IIS > > > > > More info in the archives: > http://dev.webdna.us/TalkListArchive/DetailResults.tpl?command=3Dsearch&d= b=3Dweb > dna-talk.db&eqIDdata=3D56216&max=3D1&words=3Dserver%202003 > > > > > > > Regards > > Stuart Tremain > IDFK Web Developments > AUSTRALIA > webdna@idfk.com.au > > > > > On 15/09/2008, at 3:41 PM, JD Ready wrote: > >> Hi Donovan, >> >> Yes, I did look at the mapping instructions at the bottom of the >> Welcome >> Screen: >> >> Welcome to WebDNA 6.0 >> for Windows 95/98, NT, 2000, XP, and 2003 Server! >> >> Unfortunately, after doing all of the mappings and making sure the >> settings >> are as close as they can be. I then click on the >> "Administration" (or any >> other .tpl file), and I get an HTTP 500 Error. The stright html >> pages seem >> to diplay just fine. I don't see anything in the loag as far as >> errors, so >> again, I am completely lost and getting a little frustrated. >> >> Can anyone guide to to the right direction as to why I would be >> receiving >> these 500 errors, or, is there a log somewhere that the error might =20 >> be >> getting logged? >> >> Thanks in advance! >> >> JD >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Donovan Brooke [mailto:dbrooke@webdna.us] >> Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2008 12:19 PM >> To: talk@webdna.us >> Subject: Re: [WebDNA] WebDNA Newbie Questions >> >> >> JD Ready wrote: >> >>> OK, here's the deal. I am a web developer (ASP/.NET & SQL Server, >>> PHP >>> & >>> MySQL). I have a friend that is purchasing a website written in >>> WebDNA >>> (currently maintained by Jay Van Vark?). The site is currently >>> running >>> on a Sun Server running Sparc, and the hosting company is charging =20 >>> an >>> arm & a leg). >>> >>> I am technically in charge of taking over the site, so I am new to >>> WebDNA and wanted to get familiar with it. So I downloaded the >>> Developer Edition for Windows and I was trying to install on my XP >>> Pro >>> machine and have not been successful. The install runs, but the >>> mapping >>> does not take place for the .tpl files. I tried to do the mapping >>> manually myself but to no avail. So can anyone help me get that >>> going? >> >> >> >> Hello again JD, did you have a chance to look at the mapping >> instructions >> for Windows that I mentioned on the HTML forum? >> >> >> >>> Now, in addition, I run a Ubuntu server here in my office, but I >>> did not >>> see a build for that platform. However, I was surprised to see so >>> many >>> platform specific builds. I'm used to seeing generic Linux >>> builds. Why >>> are the builds so platform specific? Is it possible to run WebDNA >>> on a >>> generic Linux platform? That would allow me to significantly >>> reduce my >>> host costs. >> >> >> Probably. I think the only reason there are specific installers is >> that >> things can be in different places and use different libraries for the >> different >> builds. We are starting development just now (as we only acquired >> WebDNA >> a short time ago) and will be looking at the best ways to move >> forward with >> the Linux installers and support. I have a lot of ideas in that area >> and we >> have some >> good potential resources to really improve on the linux versitality >> during >> development. >> >> >>> And finally, is WebDNA generic enough across platforms to run the >>> same >>> code on Windows as it does on Linux/Unix? The database back-end >>> for the >>> website I will be running is a CSV file that is being exported from >>> FileMaker Pro on a Mac. At this point, I am unsure which version of >>> WebDNA I will need, but I am assuming the Commerce Edition at a >>> minimum. >> >> >> Yes, That is one of the "plusses" in regards to WebDNA. It works >> relatively >> the same across platforms. There are platform specific contexts and >> commands.. >> but all the core stuff is very portable. The CSV file is the heart of >> WebDNA's internal RAM resident table system.. so that will work >> fine. You >> just have to make sure the file format is clean before uploading =20 >> (file >> format >> structure is in the docs at dev.webdna.us. >> >> >>> >>> Anyway, any help you guys can give me to point me in the right >>> direction >>> would be greatly appreciated. >>> >>> Sincerely, >>> JD Ready >> >> >> Respectfully to Chris's suggestion, I would rather suggest that you >> actually >> get started now. WebDNA on XP should run just fine as it is listed as >> supported. >> However, as I mentioned, >> this hasn't been my personal platform of choice and I won't be able =20 >> to >> help much, other than pointing you to the instructions for mapping =20 >> the >> suffixes for Windows. >> >> However, there are hundreds of Windows Servers running WebDNA out >> there, >> so I am guessing there are people on this list who can help you with >> install issues. >> >> Lastly, Chris and I and others will know a lot more in a couple/few >> months >> about all this stuff I'm sure ;-) (when we are in the thick of >> development). >> >> Hope that helps!... and hopefully someone else will chime in to help >> you >> get up and running quickly. >> >> Donovan >> >> P.S. Ubuntu is my personal favorite flavor! >> >> >> >> --=20 >> Donovan D. Brooke PH/FAX: 1 (608) 291-2024 >> ---------------------------------------------- >> VP >> WebDNA Software Corporation >> 16192 Coastal Highway >> Lewes, DE 19958 >> --------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list
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Well, frustrated beyond belief, I am giving up on WebDNA. I have tried everything I can think of to get this product to run under Windows XP = Pro. I really want to thank Stuart for trying to help me out. I combed = through EVERY historical posting in the TalkList archive to no avail. I'm = doubly frustrated because it seems that some people did get the application running. Unfortunately, I am not one of them. It seems that several = people got WebDNA running with alternative Web Servers (not IIS) like Sambar, = but the servers mentioned are no longer available/supported. It seems that WebDNA is experiencing a resurgence, and I have enjoyed = being on the List for the past few days to see the community start to come = back to life. I enjoy learning new languages and products, but this one has = been a tough one. I will remain on the list for a few more days, and I may = even attempt an install on my Ubuntu server in a few days, but I am not very hopeful as this Windows experience has been a tough one. Thanks again to those that tried to help me. Sincerely, JD Ready -----Original Message----- From: Stuart Tremain [mailto:webdna@idfk.com.au]=20 Sent: Monday, September 15, 2008 6:37 PM To: talk@webdna.us Subject: Re: [WebDNA] WebDNA for Windows Newbie Questions JD I found this in the archives, it may help. I have only ever installed =20 on server platforms and there are probably some tricks to what you are =20 doing, especially the 500 error. http://dev.webdna.us/TalkListArchive/SubjectResults.tpl?command=3Dsearch&= db=3Dwe bdna-talk.db&Group1Field=3DSubject%2BBody%2BFrom&Group1data=3Dwindows%20X= P&group 1comp=3Dws&IDsort=3D1&IDtype=3Dnum&IDsdir=3Dde&max=3D15&startAt=3D16 Regards Stuart Tremain IDFK Web Developments AUSTRALIA webdna@idfk.com.au On 16/09/2008, at 10:15 AM, JD Ready wrote: > Thanks for the help Stuart. I really appreciate it. Unfortunately, I = > followed your instructions as well as I could. The problem is that > in IIS > 5.1 on Windows XP Pro, there is no "Web Services" folder (that I can =20 > find). > I am still getting HTTP 500 errors with nothing meaningful in the =20 > IIS logs > to go on. > > So I am still stuck. At this point, I'm getting quite frustrated > with the > process. I may try and get the application installed on my Ubuntu =20 > server, > but I know less about that server than I do about Windows. In the =20 > 90's, I > was an AIX administrator, and I have installed/run servers with =20 > FreeBSD, Red > Hat and Ubuntu, so I'm somewhat familiar with Linux/Unix. > > Anyway, if there is anyone else out there that can give me any other > Windows > suggestions, I would greatly appreciate it. As I said, I'm pretty > discouraged at this point, and I'm starting to wish that I didn't =20 > have to do > this project :-( > > Thanks! > > JD > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Stuart Tremain [mailto:webdna@idfk.com.au] > Sent: Monday, September 15, 2008 12:12 AM > To: talk@webdna.us > Subject: Re: [WebDNA] WebDNA Newbie Questions > > > JD > > Try this: > > Select Web Sites Folder - Right Click > Properties > Home Directory Tab > Set Execute Permissions to Scripts Only > Click Config Button > Mappings Tab click add > Set Executable path to $WebCat.dll (Usually > C:\Inetpub\scripts\WebCatalogEngine) > Set Extension to .TPL > OK to exit > > Select Web Services Folder - Right Click > Add a new Web Service Extension Wizard button > Set Extension Name to "WebCat" > Click add button to add path to $WebCat.dll (Usually > C:\Inetpub\scripts\WebCatalogEngine) > Check box "Set extension status to allowed" > OK to exit > > At root of IIS, Where it says "Computer Name" (local computer) - > Right Click > All Tasks - Save Config to Disk All Tasks - Restart IIS > > > > > More info in the archives: > http://dev.webdna.us/TalkListArchive/DetailResults.tpl?command=3Dsearch&d= b=3Dweb > dna-talk.db&eqIDdata=3D56216&max=3D1&words=3Dserver%202003 > > > > > > > Regards > > Stuart Tremain > IDFK Web Developments > AUSTRALIA > webdna@idfk.com.au > > > > > On 15/09/2008, at 3:41 PM, JD Ready wrote: > >> Hi Donovan, >> >> Yes, I did look at the mapping instructions at the bottom of the >> Welcome >> Screen: >> >> Welcome to WebDNA 6.0 >> for Windows 95/98, NT, 2000, XP, and 2003 Server! >> >> Unfortunately, after doing all of the mappings and making sure the >> settings >> are as close as they can be. I then click on the >> "Administration" (or any >> other .tpl file), and I get an HTTP 500 Error. The stright html >> pages seem >> to diplay just fine. I don't see anything in the loag as far as >> errors, so >> again, I am completely lost and getting a little frustrated. >> >> Can anyone guide to to the right direction as to why I would be >> receiving >> these 500 errors, or, is there a log somewhere that the error might =20 >> be >> getting logged? >> >> Thanks in advance! >> >> JD >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Donovan Brooke [mailto:dbrooke@webdna.us] >> Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2008 12:19 PM >> To: talk@webdna.us >> Subject: Re: [WebDNA] WebDNA Newbie Questions >> >> >> JD Ready wrote: >> >>> OK, here's the deal. I am a web developer (ASP/.NET & SQL Server, >>> PHP >>> & >>> MySQL). I have a friend that is purchasing a website written in >>> WebDNA >>> (currently maintained by Jay Van Vark?). The site is currently >>> running >>> on a Sun Server running Sparc, and the hosting company is charging =20 >>> an >>> arm & a leg). >>> >>> I am technically in charge of taking over the site, so I am new to >>> WebDNA and wanted to get familiar with it. So I downloaded the >>> Developer Edition for Windows and I was trying to install on my XP >>> Pro >>> machine and have not been successful. The install runs, but the >>> mapping >>> does not take place for the .tpl files. I tried to do the mapping >>> manually myself but to no avail. So can anyone help me get that >>> going? >> >> >> >> Hello again JD, did you have a chance to look at the mapping >> instructions >> for Windows that I mentioned on the HTML forum? >> >> >> >>> Now, in addition, I run a Ubuntu server here in my office, but I >>> did not >>> see a build for that platform. However, I was surprised to see so >>> many >>> platform specific builds. I'm used to seeing generic Linux >>> builds. Why >>> are the builds so platform specific? Is it possible to run WebDNA >>> on a >>> generic Linux platform? That would allow me to significantly >>> reduce my >>> host costs. >> >> >> Probably. I think the only reason there are specific installers is >> that >> things can be in different places and use different libraries for the >> different >> builds. We are starting development just now (as we only acquired >> WebDNA >> a short time ago) and will be looking at the best ways to move >> forward with >> the Linux installers and support. I have a lot of ideas in that area >> and we >> have some >> good potential resources to really improve on the linux versitality >> during >> development. >> >> >>> And finally, is WebDNA generic enough across platforms to run the >>> same >>> code on Windows as it does on Linux/Unix? The database back-end >>> for the >>> website I will be running is a CSV file that is being exported from >>> FileMaker Pro on a Mac. At this point, I am unsure which version of >>> WebDNA I will need, but I am assuming the Commerce Edition at a >>> minimum. >> >> >> Yes, That is one of the "plusses" in regards to WebDNA. It works >> relatively >> the same across platforms. There are platform specific contexts and >> commands.. >> but all the core stuff is very portable. The CSV file is the heart of >> WebDNA's internal RAM resident table system.. so that will work >> fine. You >> just have to make sure the file format is clean before uploading =20 >> (file >> format >> structure is in the docs at dev.webdna.us. >> >> >>> >>> Anyway, any help you guys can give me to point me in the right >>> direction >>> would be greatly appreciated. >>> >>> Sincerely, >>> JD Ready >> >> >> Respectfully to Chris's suggestion, I would rather suggest that you >> actually >> get started now. WebDNA on XP should run just fine as it is listed as >> supported. >> However, as I mentioned, >> this hasn't been my personal platform of choice and I won't be able =20 >> to >> help much, other than pointing you to the instructions for mapping =20 >> the >> suffixes for Windows. >> >> However, there are hundreds of Windows Servers running WebDNA out >> there, >> so I am guessing there are people on this list who can help you with >> install issues. >> >> Lastly, Chris and I and others will know a lot more in a couple/few >> months >> about all this stuff I'm sure ;-) (when we are in the thick of >> development). >> >> Hope that helps!... and hopefully someone else will chime in to help >> you >> get up and running quickly. >> >> Donovan >> >> P.S. Ubuntu is my personal favorite flavor! >> >> >> >> --=20 >> Donovan D. Brooke PH/FAX: 1 (608) 291-2024 >> ---------------------------------------------- >> VP >> WebDNA Software Corporation >> 16192 Coastal Highway >> Lewes, DE 19958 >> --------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > > --------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > > > --------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us > old archives: http://dev.webdna.us/TalkListArchive/ --------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . 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