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Re: [WebDNA] Installation on windows 2008 server

This WebDNA talk-list message is from

2010


It keeps the original formatting.
numero = 105237
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texte = --0016361e7b802bcb3204879c172c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi everyone, Long time since I have been on this list. I was so glad to see that WebDNA was finally set free from it's captors. Anyways, I am actually planning on going to law school, but I do still have a server and recently installed WebDNA on my local machine running Win 7 using these instructions from the talk-list. I have a YouTube page with some videos of what I have been doing over the years. You can check it out at http://www.youtube.com/saldanna I hope all of you are doing well. Sal Subject:[WebDNA] Installing Windows CICADA under IIS7/2008 Server Enterpris= e 64bit From:Patrick McCormick I managed to get WebDNA v6.1 CICADA working under Windows Server 2008 Enterprise, 64 bit. This OS supports running 32 bit .dlls if properly configured. I'm posting the steps here in case anyone else needs it, and because I'll forget and need to look this up again. 1) Before installing WebDNA, you need to make sure that you have already installed IIS 6 Metabase Compatibility, ISAPI Extension Support and ISAPI Filters on the server. Make sure you can get to the default web page with a browser and figure that out before proceeding. 2) Install the Windows CICADA package. It will attempt to set up and configure the services and will likely generate an error message. We will update the installer in the future, but until then, please follow the rest of these steps. 3) Open the Internet Information Services (IIS) Manager. 4) Double-click =93Handler Mappings=94 from the main IIS screen. 5) Click on =93Add Script Map.=94 6) Set up the handler mapping for c:\inetpub\scripts\WebCatalogEngine\ $WebCat.dll with extensions *.tpl, *.tmpl, *.htm, *.html, plus/or any other suffixes and check to allow the ISAPI extension and execution of scripts. 7) Double-click =93ISAPI & CGI Restrictions=94 on the main IIS screen. Right-click on PHP and select =93Edit Feature Settings=94 and check =93Allo= w unspecified ISAPI modules.=94 8) Right-click on the Default Application Pool (or the one you want to use if more than one) and select =93Advanced Settings.=94 9) Change the =93Enable 32-bit Applications=94 to True. Click OK. This spawns the App Pool in 32-bit mode, so if you have other modules that need to be run in 64-bit mode, best to separate the website into two App Pools: one 32-bit and one 64-bit. 10) Restart the server. -Pat On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 4:00 PM, wrote: > > Hi Stuart! the fastCGI version will be supported by most windows versions= , but it is not ready yet. Otherwise, i guess a knowledgeable windows administrator should be able to install CICADA on windows 2008. Unfortunately, my own experience is more unix side... > > - chris > > > On May 26, 2010, at 19:17, Stuart Tremain wrote: > > > Christophe > > > > Have you done this installation. > > > > I am upgrading my server hardware and want to move on to the newer OS and also be ready for the fast CGI version. > > > > Regards > > > > Stuart Tremain > > IDFK Web Developments > > AUSTRALIA > > webdna@idfk.com.au > > > > > > > > > > On 26/05/2010, at 11:35 PM, Michael A. DeLorenzo wrote: > > > >> Not sure. I will tell you that on my end of things just getting WebDNA to > >> run on Window 7 was difficult. I eventually had to use Sambar as Olin > >> suggested. > >> > >> Has anyone successfully installed webDNA on a Windows 7 machine 64-Bit using > >> IIS? I would think directions to do so would be of some priority now that > >> most of the new PC's run that OS. > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Mike > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Stuart Tremain [mailto:webdna@idfk.com.au] > >> Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 2:27 AM > >> To: talk@webdna.us > >> Subject: Re: [WebDNA] Installation on windows 2008 server > >> > >> So can I assume that this is not possible ??? > >> > >> Regards > >> > >> Stuart Tremain > >> IDFK Web Developments > >> AUSTRALIA > >> webdna@idfk.com.au > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> On 25/05/2010, at 5:58 PM, Stuart Tremain wrote: > >> > >>> Does anyone have instructions for this ?? > >>> > >>> Regards > >>> > >>> Stuart Tremain > >>> IDFK Web Developments > >>> AUSTRALIA > >>> webdna@idfk.com.au > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> --------------------------------------------------------- > >>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > >>> the mailing list . > >>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > >>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us > >>> old archives: http://dev.webdna.us/TalkListArchive/ > >>> Bug Reporting: http://forum.webdna.us/eucabb.html?page=3Dtopics&category=3D288 > >> > >> --------------------------------------------------------- > >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > >> the mailing list . > >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > >> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us > >> old archives: http://dev.webdna.us/TalkListArchive/ > >> Bug Reporting: http://forum.webdna.us/eucabb.html?page=3Dtopics&category=3D288 > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> --------------------------------------------------------- > >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > >> the mailing list . > >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > >> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us > >> old archives: http://dev.webdna.us/TalkListArchive/ > >> Bug Reporting: http://forum.webdna.us/eucabb.html?page=3Dtopics&category=3D288 > > > > --------------------------------------------------------- > > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > > the mailing list . > > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us > > old archives: http://dev.webdna.us/TalkListArchive/ > > Bug Reporting: http://forum.webdna.us/eucabb.html?page=3Dtopics&category=3D288 > > --------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us > old archives: http://dev.webdna.us/TalkListArchive/ > Bug Reporting: http://forum.webdna.us/eucabb.html?page=3Dtopics&category= =3D288 --0016361e7b802bcb3204879c172c Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi everyone,=

Long time since I have been on this list. =A0I was = so glad to see that WebDNA was finally set free from it's captors. =A0A= nyways, I am actually planning on going to law school, but I do still have = a server and recently installed WebDNA on my local machine running Win 7 us= ing these instructions from the talk-list.

I have a YouTube page with some videos of what I have been doing over the = years. =A0You can check it out at http://www.youtube.com/saldanna

I hope all of you are doing well.
Sal

Subject:[WebDNA] Instal= ling Windows CICADA under IIS7/2008 Server Enterprise 64bit
From:Patrick=A0McCormick


I managed to get WebDNA v6.1 CICADA worki= ng under Windows Server 2008=A0
Enterprise, 64 bit. This OS supports runni= ng 32 bit .dlls if properly=A0
config= ured. I'm posting the steps here in case anyone else needs it,=A0
=
and because I'll forget and need to look this up again.

1) Before= installing WebDNA, you need to make sure that you have=A0
already installed IIS 6 Metabase Compatibility, ISAPI Extension=A0
Support and ISAPI Filters on the server. Make= sure you can get to the=A0
default w= eb page with a browser and figure that out before proceeding.

2) Install the Windows CICADA package. It will attempt to set up and=A0
configure the services and will likely = generate an error message. We=A0
will update the installer in the future, b= ut until then, please follow=A0
the r= est of these steps.

3) Open the Internet Information Services (IIS) Manager.

4) Double-cl= ick =93Handler Mappings=94 from the main IIS screen.

5) Click on =93Add Script Map.= =94

6) Set up the handler mapping for c:\inetpub\scripts\WebCatalogEn= gine\=A0
$WebCat.dll with extensions *.tpl, *.tmpl,= *.htm, *.html, plus/or any=A0
other = suffixes and check to allow the ISAPI extension and execution of=A0
scripts.

7) Double-click =93ISAPI & CGI Restrictions=94 on the ma= in IIS screen.=A0
Right-click on PHP = and select =93Edit Feature Settings=94 and check =93Allow=A0
unspecified ISAPI modules.=94

8) Rig= ht-click on the Default Application Pool (or the one you want to=A0
use if more than one) and select =93Advanced Settings.=94

9) Change= the =93Enable 32-bit Applications=94 to True. Click OK. This=A0
spawns the App Pool in 32-bit mode, so if you have other modules that=A0
need to be run in 64-bit mode, best to = separate the website into two=A0
App = Pools: one 32-bit and one 64-bit.

10) Restart the server.

-Pat
<= br>
On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 4:00 PM, <christophe.billiottet@webdna.= us> wrote:
>
> Hi Stuart! the fastCGI version will be supported by most windows versi= ons, but it is not ready yet. Otherwise, i guess a knowledgeable windows ad= ministrator should be able to install CICADA on windows 2008. Unfortunately= , my own experience is more unix side...
>
> - chris
>
>
> On May = 26, 2010, at 19:17, Stuart Tremain wrote:
>
> > Christophe
> >
=
> > Have you done this installation.=
> >
> > I am upgrading my server hardware and want to move on to th= e newer OS and also be ready for the fast =A0CGI version.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Stuart Tremain
> > = IDFK Web Developments
> > AUSTRALIA
> >
> >
> >
> >
>= > On 26/05/2010, at 11:35 PM, Michael A. DeLorenzo wrote:
> >
> >> Not sure. I w= ill tell you that on my end of things just getting WebDNA to
> >> run on Window 7 was difficult. I even= tually had to use Sambar as Olin
> >> suggested.
> >>
= > >> Has anyone successfully installed webDNA on a Windows 7 machi= ne 64-Bit using
> >> IIS? I would think direction= s to do so would be of some priority now that
> >> most of the new PC's run that OS.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Mike
> >>
>= >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Stuart Tremain [mailto= :webdna@idfk.com.au]
> >> Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 2:27 = AM
> >= ;> Subject: Re: [WebDNA] Installation on windows 2008 server
> >>
> >> So can I = assume that this is not possible ???
= > >>
> >> Regards
> >>
> >> Stuart Tremain
> >> IDFK Web Developments
> >> AUSTRALIA
>= >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 25/05/2010, at 5:58 PM, Stuar= t Tremain wrote:
> >>
<= div style=3D"text-align: left;"> > >>> Does anyone have instructions for this ??
> >>>
> >>> Regards
> &g= t;>>
> >>> Stuart Tremain
> >>> IDFK Web Developments<= div style=3D"text-align: left;">> >>> AUSTRALIA
> >>>
> >>> --------------------= -------------------------------------
> >>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to=
> >>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: <talk-leave@webdna.us>
=
> >>
> >> ---------= ------------------------------------------------
> >> This message is sent to you because you are subsc= ribed to
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> >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: <talk-leave@webdna.us>
> >> old archives: http://dev.webdna.us/TalkLi= stArchive/
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ---= ------------------------------------------------------
> >> This message is sent to you = because you are subscribed to
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> >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: &= lt;talk-leave@webdna.us>
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> >
> > ---------------------------------------------------------
> > This message is sent to you = because you are subscribed to
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> > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: <talk-leave@webdna.us>
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> ---------------------------= ------------------------------
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--0016361e7b802bcb3204879c172c-- Associated Messages, from the most recent to the oldest:

    
  1. Re: [WebDNA] Installation on windows 2008 server ("Gary Krockover" 2010)
  2. RE: [WebDNA] Installation on windows 2008 server ("Michael A. DeLorenzo" 2010)
  3. Re: [WebDNA] Installation on windows 2008 server (sal danna 2010)
  4. Re: [WebDNA] Installation on windows 2008 server (christophe.billiottet@webdna.us 2010)
  5. Re: [WebDNA] Installation on windows 2008 server (Stuart Tremain 2010)
  6. RE: [WebDNA] Installation on windows 2008 server ("Michael A. DeLorenzo" 2010)
  7. Re: [WebDNA] Installation on windows 2008 server (Stuart Tremain 2010)
  8. RE: [WebDNA] Installation on windows 2008 server ("Olin Lagon" 2010)
  9. [WebDNA] Installation on windows 2008 server (Stuart Tremain 2010)
--0016361e7b802bcb3204879c172c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi everyone, Long time since I have been on this list. I was so glad to see that WebDNA was finally set free from it's captors. Anyways, I am actually planning on going to law school, but I do still have a server and recently installed WebDNA on my local machine running Win 7 using these instructions from the talk-list. I have a YouTube page with some videos of what I have been doing over the years. You can check it out at http://www.youtube.com/saldanna I hope all of you are doing well. Sal Subject:[WebDNA] Installing Windows CICADA under IIS7/2008 Server Enterpris= e 64bit From:Patrick McCormick I managed to get WebDNA v6.1 CICADA working under Windows Server 2008 Enterprise, 64 bit. This OS supports running 32 bit .dlls if properly configured. I'm posting the steps here in case anyone else needs it, and because I'll forget and need to look this up again. 1) Before installing WebDNA, you need to make sure that you have already installed IIS 6 Metabase Compatibility, ISAPI Extension Support and ISAPI Filters on the server. Make sure you can get to the default web page with a browser and figure that out before proceeding. 2) Install the Windows CICADA package. It will attempt to set up and configure the services and will likely generate an error message. We will update the installer in the future, but until then, please follow the rest of these steps. 3) Open the Internet Information Services (IIS) Manager. 4) Double-click =93Handler Mappings=94 from the main IIS screen. 5) Click on =93Add Script Map.=94 6) Set up the handler mapping for c:\inetpub\scripts\WebCatalogEngine\ $WebCat.dll with extensions *.tpl, *.tmpl, *.htm, *.html, plus/or any other suffixes and check to allow the ISAPI extension and execution of scripts. 7) Double-click =93ISAPI & CGI Restrictions=94 on the main IIS screen. Right-click on PHP and select =93Edit Feature Settings=94 and check =93Allo= w unspecified ISAPI modules.=94 8) Right-click on the Default Application Pool (or the one you want to use if more than one) and select =93Advanced Settings.=94 9) Change the =93Enable 32-bit Applications=94 to True. Click OK. This spawns the App Pool in 32-bit mode, so if you have other modules that need to be run in 64-bit mode, best to separate the website into two App Pools: one 32-bit and one 64-bit. 10) Restart the server. -Pat On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 4:00 PM, wrote: > > Hi Stuart! the fastCGI version will be supported by most windows versions= , but it is not ready yet. Otherwise, i guess a knowledgeable windows administrator should be able to install CICADA on windows 2008. Unfortunately, my own experience is more unix side... > > - chris > > > On May 26, 2010, at 19:17, Stuart Tremain wrote: > > > Christophe > > > > Have you done this installation. > > > > I am upgrading my server hardware and want to move on to the newer OS and also be ready for the fast CGI version. > > > > Regards > > > > Stuart Tremain > > IDFK Web Developments > > AUSTRALIA > > webdna@idfk.com.au > > > > > > > > > > On 26/05/2010, at 11:35 PM, Michael A. DeLorenzo wrote: > > > >> Not sure. I will tell you that on my end of things just getting WebDNA to > >> run on Window 7 was difficult. I eventually had to use Sambar as Olin > >> suggested. > >> > >> Has anyone successfully installed webDNA on a Windows 7 machine 64-Bit using > >> IIS? I would think directions to do so would be of some priority now that > >> most of the new PC's run that OS. > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Mike > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Stuart Tremain [mailto:webdna@idfk.com.au] > >> Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 2:27 AM > >> To: talk@webdna.us > >> Subject: Re: [WebDNA] Installation on windows 2008 server > >> > >> So can I assume that this is not possible ??? > >> > >> Regards > >> > >> Stuart Tremain > >> IDFK Web Developments > >> AUSTRALIA > >> webdna@idfk.com.au > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> On 25/05/2010, at 5:58 PM, Stuart Tremain wrote: > >> > >>> Does anyone have instructions for this ?? > >>> > >>> Regards > >>> > >>> Stuart Tremain > >>> IDFK Web Developments > >>> AUSTRALIA > >>> webdna@idfk.com.au > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> --------------------------------------------------------- > >>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > >>> the mailing list . > >>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > >>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us > >>> old archives: http://dev.webdna.us/TalkListArchive/ > >>> Bug Reporting: http://forum.webdna.us/eucabb.html?page=3Dtopics&category=3D288 > >> > >> --------------------------------------------------------- > >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > >> the mailing list . > >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > >> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us > >> old archives: http://dev.webdna.us/TalkListArchive/ > >> Bug Reporting: http://forum.webdna.us/eucabb.html?page=3Dtopics&category=3D288 > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> --------------------------------------------------------- > >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > >> the mailing list . > >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > >> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us > >> old archives: http://dev.webdna.us/TalkListArchive/ > >> Bug Reporting: http://forum.webdna.us/eucabb.html?page=3Dtopics&category=3D288 > > > > --------------------------------------------------------- > > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > > the mailing list . > > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us > > old archives: http://dev.webdna.us/TalkListArchive/ > > Bug Reporting: http://forum.webdna.us/eucabb.html?page=3Dtopics&category=3D288 > > --------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us > old archives: http://dev.webdna.us/TalkListArchive/ > Bug Reporting: http://forum.webdna.us/eucabb.html?page=3Dtopics&category= =3D288 --0016361e7b802bcb3204879c172c Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi everyone,=

Long time since I have been on this list. =A0I was = so glad to see that WebDNA was finally set free from it's captors. =A0A= nyways, I am actually planning on going to law school, but I do still have = a server and recently installed WebDNA on my local machine running Win 7 us= ing these instructions from the talk-list.

I have a YouTube page with some videos of what I have been doing over the = years. =A0You can check it out at http://www.youtube.com/saldanna

I hope all of you are doing well.
Sal

Subject:[WebDNA] Instal= ling Windows CICADA under IIS7/2008 Server Enterprise 64bit
From:Patrick=A0McCormick


I managed to get WebDNA v6.1 CICADA worki= ng under Windows Server 2008=A0
Enterprise, 64 bit. This OS supports runni= ng 32 bit .dlls if properly=A0
config= ured. I'm posting the steps here in case anyone else needs it,=A0
=
and because I'll forget and need to look this up again.

1) Before= installing WebDNA, you need to make sure that you have=A0
already installed IIS 6 Metabase Compatibility, ISAPI Extension=A0
Support and ISAPI Filters on the server. Make= sure you can get to the=A0
default w= eb page with a browser and figure that out before proceeding.

2) Install the Windows CICADA package. It will attempt to set up and=A0
configure the services and will likely = generate an error message. We=A0
will update the installer in the future, b= ut until then, please follow=A0
the r= est of these steps.

3) Open the Internet Information Services (IIS) Manager.

4) Double-cl= ick =93Handler Mappings=94 from the main IIS screen.

5) Click on =93Add Script Map.= =94

6) Set up the handler mapping for c:\inetpub\scripts\WebCatalogEn= gine\=A0
$WebCat.dll with extensions *.tpl, *.tmpl,= *.htm, *.html, plus/or any=A0
other = suffixes and check to allow the ISAPI extension and execution of=A0
scripts.

7) Double-click =93ISAPI & CGI Restrictions=94 on the ma= in IIS screen.=A0
Right-click on PHP = and select =93Edit Feature Settings=94 and check =93Allow=A0
unspecified ISAPI modules.=94

8) Rig= ht-click on the Default Application Pool (or the one you want to=A0
use if more than one) and select =93Advanced Settings.=94

9) Change= the =93Enable 32-bit Applications=94 to True. Click OK. This=A0
spawns the App Pool in 32-bit mode, so if you have other modules that=A0
need to be run in 64-bit mode, best to = separate the website into two=A0
App = Pools: one 32-bit and one 64-bit.

10) Restart the server.

-Pat
<= br>
On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 4:00 PM, <christophe.billiottet@webdna.= us> wrote:
>
> Hi Stuart! the fastCGI version will be supported by most windows versi= ons, but it is not ready yet. Otherwise, i guess a knowledgeable windows ad= ministrator should be able to install CICADA on windows 2008. Unfortunately= , my own experience is more unix side...
>
> - chris
>
>
> On May = 26, 2010, at 19:17, Stuart Tremain wrote:
>
> > Christophe
> >
=
> > Have you done this installation.=
> >
> > I am upgrading my server hardware and want to move on to th= e newer OS and also be ready for the fast =A0CGI version.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Stuart Tremain
> > = IDFK Web Developments
> > AUSTRALIA
> >
> >
> >
> >
>= > On 26/05/2010, at 11:35 PM, Michael A. DeLorenzo wrote:
> >
> >> Not sure. I w= ill tell you that on my end of things just getting WebDNA to
> >> run on Window 7 was difficult. I even= tually had to use Sambar as Olin
> >> suggested.
> >>
= > >> Has anyone successfully installed webDNA on a Windows 7 machi= ne 64-Bit using
> >> IIS? I would think direction= s to do so would be of some priority now that
> >> most of the new PC's run that OS.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Mike
> >>
>= >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Stuart Tremain [mailto= :webdna@idfk.com.au]
> >> Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 2:27 = AM
> >= ;> Subject: Re: [WebDNA] Installation on windows 2008 server
> >>
> >> So can I = assume that this is not possible ???
= > >>
> >> Regards
> >>
> >> Stuart Tremain
> >> IDFK Web Developments
> >> AUSTRALIA
>= >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 25/05/2010, at 5:58 PM, Stuar= t Tremain wrote:
> >>
<= div style=3D"text-align: left;"> > >>> Does anyone have instructions for this ??
> >>>
> >>> Regards
> &g= t;>>
> >>> Stuart Tremain
> >>> IDFK Web Developments<= div style=3D"text-align: left;">> >>> AUSTRALIA
> >>>
> >>> --------------------= -------------------------------------
> >>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to=
> >>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: <talk-leave@webdna.us>
=
> >>
> >> ---------= ------------------------------------------------
> >> This message is sent to you because you are subsc= ribed to
> >> the mailing list <talk@webdna.us>.
> >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: <talk-leave@webdna.us>
> >> old archives: http://dev.webdna.us/TalkLi= stArchive/
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ---= ------------------------------------------------------
> >> This message is sent to you = because you are subscribed to
> &g= t;> the mailing list <talk@webdna.u= s>.
> >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: &= lt;talk-leave@webdna.us>
> >> Bug Reporting: = http://forum.webdna.us/eucabb.html?page=3Dtopics&category=3D288
> >
> > ---------------------------------------------------------
> > This message is sent to you = because you are subscribed to
> > the mailing list <talk@webdna.us>.
> > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: <talk-leave@webdna.us>
>
> ---------------------------= ------------------------------
> T= his message is sent to you because you are subscribed to
> the mailing list <talk@webdna.us<= /a>>.

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