Re: [WebDNA] To be or not to be friendly (URLs)

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2011


It keeps the original formatting.
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texte = Oh I see; adding variables in the url purely for the=20 purpose of injecting keywords. Yes, that would be=20 interesting to know. On Mon, 24 Jan 2011 17:24:46 -0800 "Dan Strong" wrote: > Thanks, yeah, I already do that on many sites and it=20 >works great, and it's what I was doing on the webdna site=20 >up until last night. The issue isn't how to do it, it's=20 >what effect, if any, a URL like this might have on SEO: >=20 > http://webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D152&topic=3Dintroduction >=20 > -Dan >=20 > -------------------------------------------------- >From: "Terry Wilson" > Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 5:06 PM > To: > Subject: Re: [WebDNA] To be or not to be friendly (URLs) >=20 >> Nice to see so much action on the list! >> >> >> Here's how I've been handling this for my sites for the=20 >>past couple of=20 >> years. For the different pages of the site, I create an=20 >>actual document,=20 >> and it contains the "has WebDNA tags" up top, then a=20 >>text variable that=20 >> says what page it is (i.e. section=3DAbout) along with any=20 >>other specific=20 >> variables (e.g. page title, meta tags and description),=20 >>then an include=20 >> for the rest of the page (usually the include is the=20 >>index.html page).=20 >> This include holds the top, footer, navigation, etc and=20 >>showifs that=20 >> display, for instance about.inc. On my current sites,=20 >>it's rare to have=20 >> any variables sent in a link, at least not on the public=20 >>pages. (The CMS=20 >> is another story, but those aren't public pages.) >> >> >> For your example below, the scheme would work like this.=20 >>The document=20 >> introduction.dna would contain only this: >> >> >> [text]numero=3D152[/text] >> [include page.dna] >> >> >> It's exactly the same thing as=20 >>http://webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D152. This=20 >> would let you keep the existing db scheme and still have=20 >>relevant text as=20 >> the page name. >> >> >> Terry >> >> >> On Mon, 24 Jan 2011 10:42:55 -0800 >> "Dan Strong" wrote: >>> I consider myself to be fairly SEO savvy, so I'm not=20 >>>asking this out of=20 >>> ignorance nor am I looking for an exhaustive lesson on=20 >>>SEO, but I would=20 >>> like to get some opinions from the SEO experts on the=20 >>>list. >>> >>> Personally, I prefer friendly URLs, mostly for cosmetic=20 >>>reasons, but back=20 >>> around 2005, when I first started using them, the=20 >>>consensus was that=20 >>> having keywords in the URL was good for SEO and for my=20 >>>sites, it did seem=20 >>> to be the case. >>> >>> My impression these days is that, like always, relevant=20 >>>original=20 >>> human-readable content is the key, and a google sitemap=20 >>>is a very good=20 >>> idea, but beyond that the typical SEO best practices=20 >>>(validated html/css,=20 >>> descriptive title attributes in links, backlinks from=20 >>>authority sites,=20 >>> etc.) while they don't hurt, don't necessarily help=20 >>>either. Is that a=20 >>> fair statement? >>> >>> Specifically, on the webdna.us site, the links are now=20 >>>like this: >>> http://webdna.us?page.dna?numero=3D152 >>> >>> I'd prefer they were like this, but it's beginning to=20 >>>look like a=20 >>> time-sink: >>> http://webdna.us/introduction.dna >>> >>> So, with everything above in mind, what are your=20 >>>opinions about URLs like=20 >>> this as they relate to SEO: >>> http://webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D152&topic=3Dintroduction >>> >>> Where "topic" is an unused variable with no purpose=20 >>>other than to put=20 >>> descriptive words in the URL >>> >>> Thanks, >>> -Dan >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed=20 >>to >> the mailing list . >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >>=20 > --------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed=20 >to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us > Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us =A0 Associated Messages, from the most recent to the oldest:

    
  1. Re: [WebDNA] To be or not to be friendly (URLs) ("Dan Strong" 2011)
  2. Re: [WebDNA] To be or not to be friendly (URLs) ("Terry Wilson" 2011)
  3. Re: [WebDNA] To be or not to be friendly (URLs) ("Dan Strong" 2011)
  4. Re: [WebDNA] To be or not to be friendly (URLs) ("Terry Wilson" 2011)
  5. Re: [WebDNA] To be or not to be friendly (URLs) (William DeVaul 2011)
  6. Re: [WebDNA] To be or not to be friendly (URLs) (Steve Craig 2011)
  7. Re: [WebDNA] To be or not to be friendly (URLs) ("Dan Strong" 2011)
  8. Re: [WebDNA] To be or not to be friendly (URLs) (Brian Fries 2011)
  9. Re: [WebDNA] To be or not to be friendly (URLs) ("Dan Strong" 2011)
  10. Re: [WebDNA] To be or not to be friendly (URLs) (Brian Fries 2011)
  11. Re: [WebDNA] To be or not to be friendly (URLs) ("Dan Strong" 2011)
  12. Re: [WebDNA] To be or not to be friendly (URLs) (Steve Craig 2011)
  13. Re: [WebDNA] To be or not to be friendly (URLs) (William DeVaul 2011)
  14. [WebDNA] To be or not to be friendly (URLs) ("Dan Strong" 2011)
Oh I see; adding variables in the url purely for the=20 purpose of injecting keywords. Yes, that would be=20 interesting to know. On Mon, 24 Jan 2011 17:24:46 -0800 "Dan Strong" wrote: > Thanks, yeah, I already do that on many sites and it=20 >works great, and it's what I was doing on the webdna site=20 >up until last night. The issue isn't how to do it, it's=20 >what effect, if any, a URL like this might have on SEO: >=20 > http://webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D152&topic=3Dintroduction >=20 > -Dan >=20 > -------------------------------------------------- >From: "Terry Wilson" > Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 5:06 PM > To: > Subject: Re: [WebDNA] To be or not to be friendly (URLs) >=20 >> Nice to see so much action on the list! >> >> >> Here's how I've been handling this for my sites for the=20 >>past couple of=20 >> years. For the different pages of the site, I create an=20 >>actual document,=20 >> and it contains the "has WebDNA tags" up top, then a=20 >>text variable that=20 >> says what page it is (i.e. section=3DAbout) along with any=20 >>other specific=20 >> variables (e.g. page title, meta tags and description),=20 >>then an include=20 >> for the rest of the page (usually the include is the=20 >>index.html page).=20 >> This include holds the top, footer, navigation, etc and=20 >>showifs that=20 >> display, for instance about.inc. On my current sites,=20 >>it's rare to have=20 >> any variables sent in a link, at least not on the public=20 >>pages. (The CMS=20 >> is another story, but those aren't public pages.) >> >> >> For your example below, the scheme would work like this.=20 >>The document=20 >> introduction.dna would contain only this: >> >> >> [text]numero=3D152[/text] >> [include page.dna] >> >> >> It's exactly the same thing as=20 >>http://webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D152. This=20 >> would let you keep the existing db scheme and still have=20 >>relevant text as=20 >> the page name. >> >> >> Terry >> >> >> On Mon, 24 Jan 2011 10:42:55 -0800 >> "Dan Strong" wrote: >>> I consider myself to be fairly SEO savvy, so I'm not=20 >>>asking this out of=20 >>> ignorance nor am I looking for an exhaustive lesson on=20 >>>SEO, but I would=20 >>> like to get some opinions from the SEO experts on the=20 >>>list. >>> >>> Personally, I prefer friendly URLs, mostly for cosmetic=20 >>>reasons, but back=20 >>> around 2005, when I first started using them, the=20 >>>consensus was that=20 >>> having keywords in the URL was good for SEO and for my=20 >>>sites, it did seem=20 >>> to be the case. >>> >>> My impression these days is that, like always, relevant=20 >>>original=20 >>> human-readable content is the key, and a google sitemap=20 >>>is a very good=20 >>> idea, but beyond that the typical SEO best practices=20 >>>(validated html/css,=20 >>> descriptive title attributes in links, backlinks from=20 >>>authority sites,=20 >>> etc.) while they don't hurt, don't necessarily help=20 >>>either. Is that a=20 >>> fair statement? >>> >>> Specifically, on the webdna.us site, the links are now=20 >>>like this: >>> http://webdna.us?page.dna?numero=3D152 >>> >>> I'd prefer they were like this, but it's beginning to=20 >>>look like a=20 >>> time-sink: >>> http://webdna.us/introduction.dna >>> >>> So, with everything above in mind, what are your=20 >>>opinions about URLs like=20 >>> this as they relate to SEO: >>> http://webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D152&topic=3Dintroduction >>> >>> Where "topic" is an unused variable with no purpose=20 >>>other than to put=20 >>> descriptive words in the URL >>> >>> Thanks, >>> -Dan >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed=20 >>to >> the mailing list . >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >>=20 > --------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed=20 >to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us > Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us =A0 "Terry Wilson"

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