Re: [WebDNA] Seriously what is wrong here?
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texte = Yes, quick and simple. Would be great if WebDNA community was able to make images available for = a few different OS to make install easy for others too. On 07/11/2011, at 10:53 AM, Kenneth Grome wrote: > You'll only have to install a new serial number for each=20 > domain you want to run in accelerated mode after duplicating=20 > the master for a new client. >=20 > Most hosts can install an image from other hosts too -- a=20 > similar process that's not quite as fast but still plenty=20 > fast enough. >=20 > Sincerely, > Kenneth Grome >=20 >=20 >=20 >> As a trial I started using Rackspace, I set up a CentOS >> server with WebDNA installed on it and then made a copy >> of the file in the Rackspace cloud. >>=20 >> To set up a new site for a new client it takes about 1 >> minute to take the "master" server image and put it into >> production. >>=20 >> Admittedly I have not put this process into practice but >> it looks like a great way to setup sites for clients now >> that v7 is available. >>=20 >> I know that Rackspace is not the cheapest but at the >> moment I am only spending about $10 a month with them >> while I explore these ideas. >>=20 >> On 05/11/2011, at 3:41 AM, Matthew Bohne wrote: >>> I think part of your frustration is and will continue >>> to be this: If you don't want to be a server admin, >>> don't set up a hosting server. As soon as you set up a >>> server, that is all you end up doing (often to the >>> detriment of development). >>>=20 >>> The best advice in this thread so far is: let someone >>> else do your hosting. I was given the same advice from >>> some of the same people, and they are very right. >>> Server problems become very close personal problems. >>> Your customers' sites depend on your server, and your >>> server depends on you. It sounds like a great idea... >>> and it would be if you had someone else to manage the >>> server while you develop, or vice-versa. But a single >>> person trying to balance development, marketing, and >>> server administration is a great recipe for severe >>> health problems, outright failure, or both. >>>=20 >>> I can say from experience that Zarcrom provides >>> wonderful service. I have had php hosting through >>> GoDaddy for years, and Zarcrom's speed, performance, >>> and uptime are second to none. I think Ken Grome >>> hosts, as do several others on the distro. >>>=20 >>> Anyway, glad to hear that your problems are fixed... >>> But, if you take anything away from this, take this: >>> If you don't want to be a server admin, don't set up a >>> hosting server. >>>=20 >>> On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 10:55 AM, =20 >
wrote: >>>> Hey guys. Sorry, I hate to be that frustrated guy, >>>> and I certainly hit a high point last night, but this >>>> has been a strange few days of things just breaking >>>> down and falling apart around me (friends dying, >>>> relationships ending, vehicles breaking down, and so >>>> on). At any rate, I still really like WebDNA and >>>> just lost my patience. >>>>=20 >>>> Last night though, I did get a setup with Ubuntu 11.10 >>>> working with WebDNA7 (replacing the libssl.so file) >>>> just fine with the same configuration I was using. I >>>> was not able to reproduce the funky database >>>> behavior. >>>>=20 >>>> So I do believe that there is a real problem with this >>>> build on Ubuntu 10.4, and was not due to user error.=20 >>>> There were no special configurations with Linode >>>> either as far as automatic replicating and so forth.=20 >>>> The configuration I provided was completely verbatim. >>>> And again, the problem wasn't "installing" WebDNA, >>>> it was a bug in the behavior of it. >>>>=20 >>>> I like using Ubuntu + Apache. Setting up virtual >>>> hosts in this environment is intuitive and >>>> comfortable for me. Next time around, I'll give >>>> CentOS and Lighhtpd a go. >>>>=20 >>>> On Nov 4, 2011, at 8:55 AM, Kenneth Grome wrote: >>>>> Chris, >>>>>=20 >>>>> It seems his db's are being replicated in different >>>>> states. >>>>>=20 >>>>> Either that or he is not telling us everything about >>>>> his testing and observations, which wouldn't make >>>>> sense if he wants us to help him get webdna working >>>>> on his system. >>>>>=20 >>>>> Without a link to a test page that actually works -- >>>>> and continues to work until we help him figure out >>>>> what's wrong -- we cannot do any testing ourselves. >>>>>=20 >>>>> Even better, he could offer to give one of us FTP >>>>> access to the server root so we could run our own >>>>> tests -- in ways we know are correct. Maybe then we >>>>> could actually determine the cause of the problem, >>>>> rather than trying to guess at it. >>>>>=20 >>>>> Having said this, it seems he may be leaving out >>>>> important information about his configuration.=20 >>>>> You're the one who >>>>>=20 >>>>> noted this, I don't remember him saying anything about=20 > it: >>>>>> I just found peru.kazwebworks.com is hosted on a >>>>>> cloud server at linode.com... could it be possible >>>>>> your website (and webdna) are automatically=20 >>>>>> replicated among several servers? >>>>>=20 >>>>> I think you may have hit the nail on the head here.=20 >>>>> This could easily be the problem. It explains >>>>> everything he's been complaining about. >>>>>=20 >>>>> Sincerely, >>>>> Kenneth Grome >>>>> ----------------------------------------------------- >>>>> ---- This message is sent to you because you are >>>>> subscribed to the mailing list . >>>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >>>>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >>>>=20 >>>> ------------------------------------------------------ >>>> --- This message is sent to you because you are >>>> subscribed to the mailing list . >>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >>>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >>>=20 >>> ------------------------------------------------------- >>> -- This message is sent to you because you are >>> subscribed to the mailing list . >>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >>=20 >> --------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us > --------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us > Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us
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Yes, quick and simple. Would be great if WebDNA community was able to make images available for = a few different OS to make install easy for others too. On 07/11/2011, at 10:53 AM, Kenneth Grome wrote: > You'll only have to install a new serial number for each=20 > domain you want to run in accelerated mode after duplicating=20 > the master for a new client. >=20 > Most hosts can install an image from other hosts too -- a=20 > similar process that's not quite as fast but still plenty=20 > fast enough. >=20 > Sincerely, > Kenneth Grome >=20 >=20 >=20 >> As a trial I started using Rackspace, I set up a CentOS >> server with WebDNA installed on it and then made a copy >> of the file in the Rackspace cloud. >>=20 >> To set up a new site for a new client it takes about 1 >> minute to take the "master" server image and put it into >> production. >>=20 >> Admittedly I have not put this process into practice but >> it looks like a great way to setup sites for clients now >> that v7 is available. >>=20 >> I know that Rackspace is not the cheapest but at the >> moment I am only spending about $10 a month with them >> while I explore these ideas. >>=20 >> On 05/11/2011, at 3:41 AM, Matthew Bohne wrote: >>> I think part of your frustration is and will continue >>> to be this: If you don't want to be a server admin, >>> don't set up a hosting server. As soon as you set up a >>> server, that is all you end up doing (often to the >>> detriment of development). >>>=20 >>> The best advice in this thread so far is: let someone >>> else do your hosting. I was given the same advice from >>> some of the same people, and they are very right. >>> Server problems become very close personal problems. >>> Your customers' sites depend on your server, and your >>> server depends on you. It sounds like a great idea... >>> and it would be if you had someone else to manage the >>> server while you develop, or vice-versa. But a single >>> person trying to balance development, marketing, and >>> server administration is a great recipe for severe >>> health problems, outright failure, or both. >>>=20 >>> I can say from experience that Zarcrom provides >>> wonderful service. I have had php hosting through >>> GoDaddy for years, and Zarcrom's speed, performance, >>> and uptime are second to none. I think Ken Grome >>> hosts, as do several others on the distro. >>>=20 >>> Anyway, glad to hear that your problems are fixed... >>> But, if you take anything away from this, take this: >>> If you don't want to be a server admin, don't set up a >>> hosting server. >>>=20 >>> On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 10:55 AM, =20 > wrote: >>>> Hey guys. Sorry, I hate to be that frustrated guy, >>>> and I certainly hit a high point last night, but this >>>> has been a strange few days of things just breaking >>>> down and falling apart around me (friends dying, >>>> relationships ending, vehicles breaking down, and so >>>> on). At any rate, I still really like WebDNA and >>>> just lost my patience. >>>>=20 >>>> Last night though, I did get a setup with Ubuntu 11.10 >>>> working with WebDNA7 (replacing the libssl.so file) >>>> just fine with the same configuration I was using. I >>>> was not able to reproduce the funky database >>>> behavior. >>>>=20 >>>> So I do believe that there is a real problem with this >>>> build on Ubuntu 10.4, and was not due to user error.=20 >>>> There were no special configurations with Linode >>>> either as far as automatic replicating and so forth.=20 >>>> The configuration I provided was completely verbatim. >>>> And again, the problem wasn't "installing" WebDNA, >>>> it was a bug in the behavior of it. >>>>=20 >>>> I like using Ubuntu + Apache. Setting up virtual >>>> hosts in this environment is intuitive and >>>> comfortable for me. Next time around, I'll give >>>> CentOS and Lighhtpd a go. >>>>=20 >>>> On Nov 4, 2011, at 8:55 AM, Kenneth Grome wrote: >>>>> Chris, >>>>>=20 >>>>> It seems his db's are being replicated in different >>>>> states. >>>>>=20 >>>>> Either that or he is not telling us everything about >>>>> his testing and observations, which wouldn't make >>>>> sense if he wants us to help him get webdna working >>>>> on his system. >>>>>=20 >>>>> Without a link to a test page that actually works -- >>>>> and continues to work until we help him figure out >>>>> what's wrong -- we cannot do any testing ourselves. >>>>>=20 >>>>> Even better, he could offer to give one of us FTP >>>>> access to the server root so we could run our own >>>>> tests -- in ways we know are correct. Maybe then we >>>>> could actually determine the cause of the problem, >>>>> rather than trying to guess at it. >>>>>=20 >>>>> Having said this, it seems he may be leaving out >>>>> important information about his configuration.=20 >>>>> You're the one who >>>>>=20 >>>>> noted this, I don't remember him saying anything about=20 > it: >>>>>> I just found peru.kazwebworks.com is hosted on a >>>>>> cloud server at linode.com... could it be possible >>>>>> your website (and webdna) are automatically=20 >>>>>> replicated among several servers? >>>>>=20 >>>>> I think you may have hit the nail on the head here.=20 >>>>> This could easily be the problem. It explains >>>>> everything he's been complaining about. >>>>>=20 >>>>> Sincerely, >>>>> Kenneth Grome >>>>> ----------------------------------------------------- >>>>> ---- This message is sent to you because you are >>>>> subscribed to the mailing list . >>>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >>>>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >>>>=20 >>>> ------------------------------------------------------ >>>> --- This message is sent to you because you are >>>> subscribed to the mailing list . >>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >>>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >>>=20 >>> ------------------------------------------------------- >>> -- This message is sent to you because you are >>> subscribed to the mailing list . >>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >>=20 >> --------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us > --------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us > Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us
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