Re: [WebDNA] Apache or Nginx

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2016


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texte = 589 Dude =E2=80=A6 you would be my idol! (You=E2=80=99re already my idol so I=E2=80=99ll just have to add more = candles to the shrine.) > On Sep 22, 2016, at 10:51 AM, Donovan Brooke wrote: >=20 > I personally don=E2=80=99t see ANY reason why WebDNA FastCGI can=E2=80=99= t be installed on a CPANEL Account.. one of these days I=E2=80=99ll get = around to trying it out. >=20 > Agree 100% about integrating into these types of environments. >=20 > Donovan >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Sep 22, 2016, at 9:32 AM, Patrick McCormick = wrote: >=20 >> Did the same thing, Ken & I=E2=80=99m using Webmin. >>=20 >> My main server does a ton of WordPress sites & that one uses = WHM/cPanel. I=E2=80=99ve also installed WHMCS, which automates billing. = Clients pay with a credit card and future monthly payments are drawn = automatically and it even auto-kills sites if the payment isn=E2=80=99t = received by a deadline. >>=20 >> I wish that WebDNA was installable through this system. It has a = package called Softaculous that contains installers for almost every = common software package used online. WebDNA should really be just = another package in that ecosystem. >>=20 >> That would allow programmers like us to do WebDNA solutions which = could be sold commercially as plugins for other CMS=E2=80=99s including = WordPress. >>=20 >> Although I originally used Webmin & have always found it to be = extremely complete & functional, WHM/cPanel is extremely fast and does a = much better job of managing all the domains on a server and all of the = various packages for each domain. >>=20 >>=20 >>> On Sep 22, 2016, at 8:52 AM, Kenneth Grome = wrote: >>>=20 >>> I don't know what Chris meant by Debian giving "deeper control" >>> than Ubuntu. There is nothing I have ever needed to do on a >>> server that cannot be done in Ubuntu. I tried Debian once but it >>> was more difficult to configure and manage than Ubuntu. >>>=20 >>> In my opinion Ubuntu/Apache is the best solution, especially when >>> installing Webmin for server management, which I do on all my >>> servers. The command line still rules for certain tasks, but for >>> everything else Webmin makes life much easier, especially when >>> you're not employed full-time as a server admin. >>>=20 >>> You ordered a huge amount of resources for something you described >>> as needing 1/10th of that amount in your first post. It looks >>> like you're into some serious overkill. I hope the network you're >>> on is half as good as the server you ordered ... :) >>>=20 >>> Regards, >>> Kenneth Grome >>> WebDNA Solutions >>> http://www.webdnasolutions.com >>> Web Database Systems and Linux Server Administration >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> On 09/22/2016 02:25 AM, dale wrote: >>>> Thanks Chris, >>>>=20 >>>> The VPS I ordered has 6GB ram with 6 cores. My previous servers >>>> were CentOS and a Fedora box. =46rom what I read, it appeared that >>>> Ubuntu was more server focused. >>>>=20 >>>> I'll defer to you guys as to which is better. If Debian/Apache is >>>> considered the better combination I'm fine with that. Especially >>>> since I always used Apache once I moved from WebStar :) >>>>=20 >>>> Thanks! >>>>=20 >>>> Dale.=20 >>>>=20 >>>> On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 2:20 AM, >>> > wrote: >>>>=20 >>>> Hi Dale! >>>>=20 >>>> it depends a little bit of your linux skills: >>>>=20 >>>> Debian is more technical than Ubuntu (which is a Debian >>>> dressed up) but it also uses less resources and gives a deeper >>>> control. >>>> Ubuntu is easier to manage >>>> CentOS is also easy to manage >>>> nginx will use less resources than apache and might be a >>>> little faster >>>> apache is much better documented than nginx >>>>=20 >>>> I suppose a Debian + nginx can run on a small VPS with as >>>> little as 128MB RAM >>>>=20 >>>> - chris >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>> On Sep 22, 2016, at 10:14, dale >>> > wrote: >>>>>=20 >>>>> I have always used Apache, with this new project I'm >>>> wondering which you folks recommend? >>>>>=20 >>>>> =46rom my reading, I think I'm going to go with Ubuntu as it >>>> seems be the better server option vs Debian. >>>>>=20 >>>>> Thanks! >>>>>=20 >>>>> Dale >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the >>>> mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: archives: >>>> http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >>>> Bug Reporting: >>>> support@webdna.us >>>>=20 >>>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>> the mailing list >. >>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>> > >>>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >>>> >>>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> --------------------------------------------------------- This >>>> message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing >>>> list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: archives: >>>> http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us Bug Reporting: >>>> support@webdna.us >>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>> the mailing list . >>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >>=20 >> --------------------------------------------------------- This = message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . = To unsubscribe, E-mail to: archives: = http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us Bug Reporting: = support@webdna.us >=20 > --------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us > Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us --------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . 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  1. Re: [WebDNA] Apache or Nginx (Patrick McCormick 2016)
  2. Re: [WebDNA] Apache or Nginx (Donovan Brooke 2016)
  3. Re: [WebDNA] Apache or Nginx (Patrick McCormick 2016)
  4. Re: [WebDNA] Apache or Nginx (Kenneth Grome 2016)
  5. Re: [WebDNA] Apache or Nginx (dale 2016)
  6. Re: [WebDNA] Apache or Nginx (christophe.billiottet@webdna.us 2016)
  7. [WebDNA] Apache or Nginx (dale 2016)
589 Dude =E2=80=A6 you would be my idol! (You=E2=80=99re already my idol so I=E2=80=99ll just have to add more = candles to the shrine.) > On Sep 22, 2016, at 10:51 AM, Donovan Brooke wrote: >=20 > I personally don=E2=80=99t see ANY reason why WebDNA FastCGI can=E2=80=99= t be installed on a CPANEL Account.. one of these days I=E2=80=99ll get = around to trying it out. >=20 > Agree 100% about integrating into these types of environments. >=20 > Donovan >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Sep 22, 2016, at 9:32 AM, Patrick McCormick = wrote: >=20 >> Did the same thing, Ken & I=E2=80=99m using Webmin. >>=20 >> My main server does a ton of WordPress sites & that one uses = WHM/cPanel. I=E2=80=99ve also installed WHMCS, which automates billing. = Clients pay with a credit card and future monthly payments are drawn = automatically and it even auto-kills sites if the payment isn=E2=80=99t = received by a deadline. >>=20 >> I wish that WebDNA was installable through this system. It has a = package called Softaculous that contains installers for almost every = common software package used online. WebDNA should really be just = another package in that ecosystem. >>=20 >> That would allow programmers like us to do WebDNA solutions which = could be sold commercially as plugins for other CMS=E2=80=99s including = WordPress. >>=20 >> Although I originally used Webmin & have always found it to be = extremely complete & functional, WHM/cPanel is extremely fast and does a = much better job of managing all the domains on a server and all of the = various packages for each domain. >>=20 >>=20 >>> On Sep 22, 2016, at 8:52 AM, Kenneth Grome = wrote: >>>=20 >>> I don't know what Chris meant by Debian giving "deeper control" >>> than Ubuntu. There is nothing I have ever needed to do on a >>> server that cannot be done in Ubuntu. I tried Debian once but it >>> was more difficult to configure and manage than Ubuntu. >>>=20 >>> In my opinion Ubuntu/Apache is the best solution, especially when >>> installing Webmin for server management, which I do on all my >>> servers. The command line still rules for certain tasks, but for >>> everything else Webmin makes life much easier, especially when >>> you're not employed full-time as a server admin. >>>=20 >>> You ordered a huge amount of resources for something you described >>> as needing 1/10th of that amount in your first post. It looks >>> like you're into some serious overkill. I hope the network you're >>> on is half as good as the server you ordered ... :) >>>=20 >>> Regards, >>> Kenneth Grome >>> WebDNA Solutions >>> http://www.webdnasolutions.com >>> Web Database Systems and Linux Server Administration >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> On 09/22/2016 02:25 AM, dale wrote: >>>> Thanks Chris, >>>>=20 >>>> The VPS I ordered has 6GB ram with 6 cores. My previous servers >>>> were CentOS and a Fedora box. =46rom what I read, it appeared that >>>> Ubuntu was more server focused. >>>>=20 >>>> I'll defer to you guys as to which is better. If Debian/Apache is >>>> considered the better combination I'm fine with that. Especially >>>> since I always used Apache once I moved from WebStar :) >>>>=20 >>>> Thanks! >>>>=20 >>>> Dale.=20 >>>>=20 >>>> On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 2:20 AM, >>> > wrote: >>>>=20 >>>> Hi Dale! >>>>=20 >>>> it depends a little bit of your linux skills: >>>>=20 >>>> Debian is more technical than Ubuntu (which is a Debian >>>> dressed up) but it also uses less resources and gives a deeper >>>> control. >>>> Ubuntu is easier to manage >>>> CentOS is also easy to manage >>>> nginx will use less resources than apache and might be a >>>> little faster >>>> apache is much better documented than nginx >>>>=20 >>>> I suppose a Debian + nginx can run on a small VPS with as >>>> little as 128MB RAM >>>>=20 >>>> - chris >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>> On Sep 22, 2016, at 10:14, dale >>> > wrote: >>>>>=20 >>>>> I have always used Apache, with this new project I'm >>>> wondering which you folks recommend? >>>>>=20 >>>>> =46rom my reading, I think I'm going to go with Ubuntu as it >>>> seems be the better server option vs Debian. >>>>>=20 >>>>> Thanks! >>>>>=20 >>>>> Dale >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the >>>> mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: archives: >>>> http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >>>> Bug Reporting: >>>> support@webdna.us >>>>=20 >>>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>> the mailing list >. >>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>> > >>>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >>>> >>>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> --------------------------------------------------------- This >>>> message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing >>>> list . 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