Re: [WebDNA] An actual attempt to get WebDNA and MAMP Pro to work -

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2018


It keeps the original formatting.
numero = 114116
interpreted = N
texte = 1719 --Apple-Mail=_F46FFE01-8C8F-4A27-A4C7-2C2AAA68FFB1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 I don=E2=80=99t think that=E2=80=99s unexpected, it=E2=80=99s exactly = what you would expect based on the change you made. 192.168.1.144/index..dna << Works as it always did 192.168.1.144/ << Works because the server now uses index.dna being the = first file listed in DirectoryIndex 192.168.1.144/index.html << Never did and still doesn't work PW > On 18 Mar 2018, at 19:42, Palle Bo Nielsen = wrote: >=20 >=20 > So I changed the order of the index parameters so that index.dna was = first. Like this. >=20 > > DirectoryIndex index.dnaindex.htmlindex.tpl > >=20 > The unexpected result was >=20 > 192.168.1.144/ << Workds > 192.168.1.144/index..dna << Works > 192.168.1.144/index.htmlk << Does NOT works even though "Always = interpret WebDNA [xxx] tags on all pages=E2=80=9D is active and = > is also included in the html. >=20 > I am thinking that index.html somehow might be related to something = else in the apache httpd but can not find anything. >=20 > /Palle >=20 >=20 >=20 >> On 18 Mar 2018, at 20.35, Palle Bo Nielsen > wrote: >>=20 >> Currently set to <"Always interpret WebDNA [xxx] tags on all = pages=E2=80=9D> and not working (beside .dna suffix). >>=20 >> Agree on the logic that it is most likely just a minor config issue = somewhere. >>=20 >> /Palle >>=20 >>=20 >>> On 18 Mar 2018, at 19.43, Paul Willis > wrote: >>>=20 >>> Your logic is sound >>>=20 >>> Entering... >>> http://192.168.1.144 >>> Should serve the first file in your DirectoryIndex list so the same = as entering http://192.168.1.144/index.html = >>>=20 >>> Using=E2=80=A6 >>> http://192.168.1.144/index.html >>> =E2=80=A6should serve index.html as well. In both cases they should = process WebDNA code (if as Brian suggests you=E2=80=99ve got the = preferences set to parse ALL pages rather than just those with = in them). >>>=20 >>> And finally=E2=80=A6 >>> 192.1681.144/index.dna >>> ..as this works then your server and WebDNA are essentially up and = running so it is just a minor config issue somewhere. >>>=20 >>> PW >>>=20 >>>> On 18 Mar 2018, at 17:26, Palle Bo Nielsen = > wrote: >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> Let me try to be more specific. >>>>=20 >>>> I would assume that any URL like 192.168.1.144 would request any = Index file in the orde specified in the Apache https.conf file. So if = 192.168.1.144 was entered then it should service index.html if this = existed in the root directory; if index.html does not exist in the = directory then look for index.dna and if this exists then load this file = in the browser - etc. etc. >>>>=20 >>>> My challenge is than nothing is loading then I do not specify the = 192.168.1.144/xxxxxx -file and if I specify 192.168.1.144/index.html it = is not parted by WebDNA, but if I specify 192.1681.144/index.dna i = works. >>>>=20 >>>> Do you suggest that I re=C2=B4move the entire =E2=80=9C to avoid double instructions? >>>>=20 >>>> /Palle >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>> On 18 Mar 2018, at 17.10, Brian Harrington > wrote: >>>>>=20 >>>>> seems to me if u were gonna write suffixes in 2 or 3 places... u = should at least list them in the same order...=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>> also, getting webdna admin page to display in a web browser with a = domain name or external ip address in itself creates security issues!!!=20= >>>>>=20 >>>>> On Sun, Mar 18, 2018 at 1:57 PM, Palle Bo Nielsen = > wrote: >>>>> Hi Paul >>>>>=20 >>>>> The WebDNA configuration page is configured to handle: >>>>> .tmpl .tpl .tp2 .dna .html .htm >>>>>=20 >>>>> And the Apache httpd.conf file has: >>>>> >>>>> DirectoryIndex index.html index.dna index.tpl >>>>> >>>>>=20 >>>>> Should that not be enough to handle either/or: >>>>> 192.168.1.144/index.html >>>>> 192.168.1.144/index.dna >>>>> ..or just plan... >>>>> 192.168.1.144/ >>>>>=20 >>>>> ?? >>>>>=20 >>>>> /Palle >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>> > On 18 Mar 2018, at 12.54, Paul Willis > wrote: >>>>> > >>>>> > Going to plain 192.168.1.144 will load the first file listed in = your DirectoryIndex which is index.html >>>>> > >>>>> > Is your server configured to process .html files as WebDNA? >>>>> > >>>>> > PW >>>>> > >>>>> >> On 18 Mar 2018, at 09:01, Palle Bo Nielsen = > wrote: >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Progress :) >>>>> >> >>>>> >> So now Apache and WebDNA is installed and I get WebDNA to parse = a simple index.dna page within the /Library/WebServer/Documents/ = directory. Well, =E2=80=A6 that is when I am doing the following >>>>> >> >>>>> >> 192.168.1.144 << it load but does NOT parse any WebDNA, like = [date] [time] >>>>> >> 192.168.1.144/index.dna << it = works and parses WebDNA >>>>> >> >>>>> >> WebAdmin is set to use index.dna and dna is set in the Apache = config. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> DirectoryIndex index.html index.dna index.tpl >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> So why does a plain (=E2=80=9C192.168.1.144=E2=80=9D) use not = load the index.dna file and parse it with WebDNA? >>>>> >> >>>>> >> I even got that admin page to work :) Woah=E2=80=A6 and the sun = is shining from a blue sky in Denmark today maxing out with only -1 = degrees celcius... >>>>> >> >>>>> >> /Palle >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >>> On 18 Mar 2018, at 09.35, Palle Bo Nielsen = > wrote: >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> That just might be my next discovery and if this happens then = I am on my way to a clean OS install. >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> /Palle >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>>> On 18 Mar 2018, at 08.52, christophe.billiottet@webdna.us = wrote: >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> The problem I see is that you first used your server as OSX = Server. The OSX Server installation process replaces Apache, changes the = structure, the configuration files have their names changed, the files = are stored in different folders with different paths... remove the = server, and you do not get back a plain OSX client machine. You get = something hybrid. >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> Chris >>>>> >>>> =46rom mobile >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Mar 18, 2018, at 10:41, Palle Bo Nielsen = > wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Everything you mention sound logical. I have now removed the = server.app but the /Library/Server/ remains. Would it be wise to = manually remove the entire Server directory as I will not be using = Server.app on this device again? Any experience with that. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> /Palle >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> >>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>>> >>>> the mailing list talk@webdna.us >>>>> >>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: talk-leave@webdna.us = >>>>> >>>> archives: http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 = >>>>> >>>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> >>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>>> >>> the mailing list talk@webdna.us >>>>> >>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: talk-leave@webdna.us = >>>>> >>> archives: http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 = >>>>> >>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >>>>> >> >>>>> >> --------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>>> >> the mailing list talk@webdna.us >>>>> >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: talk-leave@webdna.us = >>>>> >> archives: http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 = >>>>> >> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >>>>> > >>>>> > --------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>>> > the mailing list talk@webdna.us >>>>> > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: talk-leave@webdna.us = >>>>> > archives: http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 = >>>>> > Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >>>>>=20 >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>>> the mailing list talk@webdna.us >>>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: talk-leave@webdna.us = >>>>> archives: http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 = >>>>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >>>>>=20 >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- This = message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list = talk@webdna.us To unsubscribe, E-mail to: = talk-leave@webdna.us archives: = http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 = Bug Reporting: = support@webdna.us >>>> --------------------------------------------------------- This = message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list = talk@webdna.us To unsubscribe, E-mail to: = talk-leave@webdna.us archives: = http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 = Bug Reporting: = support@webdna.us >>> --------------------------------------------------------- This = message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list = talk@webdna.us To unsubscribe, E-mail to: = talk-leave@webdna.us archives: = http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 = Bug Reporting: = support@webdna.us >> --------------------------------------------------------- This = message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list = talk@webdna.us To unsubscribe, E-mail to: = talk-leave@webdna.us archives: = http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 = Bug Reporting: = support@webdna.us > --------------------------------------------------------- This message = is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list = talk@webdna.us To unsubscribe, E-mail to: talk-leave@webdna.us archives: = http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 Bug Reporting: = support@webdna.us --Apple-Mail=_F46FFE01-8C8F-4A27-A4C7-2C2AAA68FFB1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 I don=E2=80=99t think that=E2=80=99s unexpected, it=E2=80=99s = exactly what you would expect based on the change you made.

192.168.1.144/index..dna = << Works as it always did

192.168.1.144/  << Works = because the server now uses index.dna being the first file listed in = DirectoryIndex

192.168.1.144/index.html << Never did and still doesn't = work

PW


On 18 Mar 2018, at 19:42, Palle Bo Nielsen <powerpalle@powerpalle.dk> wrote:


So I changed the order of the index parameters so that = index.dna was first. Like this.

<IfModule dir_module>
    DirectoryIndex index.dna= index.html= index.tpl
</IfModule>

The unexpected result = was

192.168.1.144/  << Workds
192.168.1.144/index..dna << Works
192.168.1.144/index.htmlk << Does NOT works even though = "Always interpret WebDNA [xxx] = tags on all pages=E2=80=9D is active and <!--HAS_WEBDNA_TAGS-->
 is also included in the = html.

I = am thinking that index.html somehow might be related to something else = in the apache httpd but can not find anything.

/Palle



On 18 = Mar 2018, at 20.35, Palle Bo Nielsen <powerpalle@powerpalle.dk> wrote:

Currently set to <"Always interpret WebDNA [xxx] tags on all pages=E2=80=9D> = and not working (beside .dna suffix).

Agree on the logic that it is most likely just = a minor config issue somewhere.

/Palle


On 18 = Mar 2018, at 19.43, Paul Willis <paul.willis@me.com> wrote:

Your logic is = sound

Entering...
http://192.168.1.144
Should serve = the first file in your DirectoryIndex list so the same as = entering http://192.168.1.144/index.html

Using=E2=80=A6
http://192.168.1.144/index.html
=E2=80=A6should serve index.html as well. In both cases they = should process WebDNA code (if as Brian suggests you=E2=80=99ve got the = preferences set to parse ALL pages rather than just those with = <!--HAS_WEBDNA_TAGS--> in them).

And finally=E2=80=A6
192.1681.144/index.dna
..as this works = then your server and WebDNA are essentially up and running so it is just = a minor config issue somewhere.

PW

On 18 Mar 2018, at 17:26, Palle Bo Nielsen <powerpalle@powerpalle.dk> wrote:


Let me try to be more = specific.

I = would assume that any URL like 192.168.1.144 would request any Index = file in the orde specified in the Apache https.conf file. So if = 192.168.1.144 was entered then it should service index.html if this = existed in the root directory; if index.html does not exist in the = directory then look for index.dna and if this exists then load this file = in the browser - etc. etc.

My challenge is than nothing is loading then I do not specify = the 192.168.1.144/xxxxxx -file and if I specify 192.168.1.144/index.html = it is not parted by WebDNA, but if I specify 192.1681.144/index.dna i = works.

Do you = suggest that I re=C2=B4move the entire =E2=80=9C<ifMofule = dur-_mofule=E2=80=A6..:> to avoid double instructions?

/Palle


On 18 Mar 2018, at 17.10, Brian Harrington = <autoglasswny@gmail.com> wrote:

seems to me if u were gonna write suffixes in 2 or 3 = places... u should at least list them in the same order... 

also, getting webdna = admin page to display in a web browser with a domain name or external ip = address in itself creates security issues!!! 

On Sun, = Mar 18, 2018 at 1:57 PM, Palle Bo Nielsen <powerpalle@powerpalle.dk> = wrote:
Hi Paul

The WebDNA configuration page is configured to handle:
..tmpl .tpl .tp2 .dna .html .htm

And the Apache httpd.conf file has:
<IfModule dir_module>
    DirectoryIndex index.html index.dna index.tpl
= </IfModule>

Should that not be enough to handle either/or:
192.168.1.144/index.html
192.168.1.144/index.dna
...or just plan...
192.168.1.144/

??

/Palle


> On 18 Mar 2018, at 12.54, Paul Willis <paul.willis@me.com> = wrote:
>
> Going to plain 192.168.1.144 will load the first file listed in = your DirectoryIndex which is index.html
>
> Is your server configured to process .html files as WebDNA?
>
> PW
>
>> On 18 Mar 2018, at 09:01, Palle Bo Nielsen <powerpalle@powerpalle.dk> wrote:
>>
>> Progress :)
>>
>> So now Apache and WebDNA is installed and I get WebDNA to parse = a simple index.dna page within the /Library/WebServer/Documents/ = directory. Well, =E2=80=A6 that is when I am doing the following
>>
>> 192.168.1.144 << it load but does NOT parse any WebDNA, = like [date] [time]
>> 192.168.1.144/index.dna  << = it works and parses WebDNA
>>
>> WebAdmin is set to use index.dna and dna is set in the Apache = config.
>>
>> <IfModule dir_module>
>>   DirectoryIndex index.html index.dna index.tpl
>> </IfModule>
>>
>> So why does a plain (=E2=80=9C192.168.1.144=E2=80=9D) use not = load the index.dna file and parse it with WebDNA?
>>
>> I even got that admin page to work :) Woah=E2=80=A6 and the sun = is shining from a blue sky in Denmark today maxing out with only -1 = degrees celcius...
>>
>> /Palle
>>
>>
>>
>>> On 18 Mar 2018, at 09.35, Palle Bo Nielsen <powerpalle@powerpalle.dk> wrote:
>>>
>>> That just might be my next discovery and if this happens = then I am on my way to a clean OS install.
>>>
>>> /Palle
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 18 Mar 2018, at 08.52, christophe.billiottet@webdna.us wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The problem I see is that you first used your server as = OSX Server. The OSX Server installation process replaces Apache, changes = the structure, the configuration files have their  names changed, = the files are stored in different folders with different paths... remove = the server, and you do not get back a plain OSX client machine. You get = something hybrid.
>>>>
>>>> Chris
>>>> =46rom mobile
>>>>
>>>>> On Mar 18, 2018, at 10:41, Palle Bo Nielsen <powerpalle@powerpalle.dk> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Everything you mention sound logical. I have now = removed the server.app but the /Library/Server/ remains. Would it be = wise to manually remove the entire Server directory as I will not be = using Server.app on this device again? Any experience with that.
>>>>>
>>>>> /Palle
>>>>
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1719 --Apple-Mail=_F46FFE01-8C8F-4A27-A4C7-2C2AAA68FFB1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 I don=E2=80=99t think that=E2=80=99s unexpected, it=E2=80=99s exactly = what you would expect based on the change you made. 192.168.1.144/index..dna << Works as it always did 192.168.1.144/ << Works because the server now uses index.dna being the = first file listed in DirectoryIndex 192.168.1.144/index.html << Never did and still doesn't work PW > On 18 Mar 2018, at 19:42, Palle Bo Nielsen = wrote: >=20 >=20 > So I changed the order of the index parameters so that index.dna was = first. Like this. >=20 > > DirectoryIndex index.dnaindex.htmlindex.tpl > >=20 > The unexpected result was >=20 > 192.168.1.144/ << Workds > 192.168.1.144/index..dna << Works > 192.168.1.144/index.htmlk << Does NOT works even though "Always = interpret WebDNA [xxx] tags on all pages=E2=80=9D is active and = > is also included in the html. >=20 > I am thinking that index.html somehow might be related to something = else in the apache httpd but can not find anything. >=20 > /Palle >=20 >=20 >=20 >> On 18 Mar 2018, at 20.35, Palle Bo Nielsen > wrote: >>=20 >> Currently set to <"Always interpret WebDNA [xxx] tags on all = pages=E2=80=9D> and not working (beside .dna suffix). >>=20 >> Agree on the logic that it is most likely just a minor config issue = somewhere. >>=20 >> /Palle >>=20 >>=20 >>> On 18 Mar 2018, at 19.43, Paul Willis > wrote: >>>=20 >>> Your logic is sound >>>=20 >>> Entering... >>> http://192.168.1.144 >>> Should serve the first file in your DirectoryIndex list so the same = as entering http://192.168.1.144/index.html = >>>=20 >>> Using=E2=80=A6 >>> http://192.168.1.144/index.html >>> =E2=80=A6should serve index.html as well. In both cases they should = process WebDNA code (if as Brian suggests you=E2=80=99ve got the = preferences set to parse ALL pages rather than just those with = in them). >>>=20 >>> And finally=E2=80=A6 >>> 192.1681.144/index.dna >>> ..as this works then your server and WebDNA are essentially up and = running so it is just a minor config issue somewhere. >>>=20 >>> PW >>>=20 >>>> On 18 Mar 2018, at 17:26, Palle Bo Nielsen = > wrote: >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> Let me try to be more specific. >>>>=20 >>>> I would assume that any URL like 192.168.1.144 would request any = Index file in the orde specified in the Apache https.conf file. So if = 192.168.1.144 was entered then it should service index.html if this = existed in the root directory; if index.html does not exist in the = directory then look for index.dna and if this exists then load this file = in the browser - etc. etc. >>>>=20 >>>> My challenge is than nothing is loading then I do not specify the = 192.168.1.144/xxxxxx -file and if I specify 192.168.1.144/index.html it = is not parted by WebDNA, but if I specify 192.1681.144/index.dna i = works. >>>>=20 >>>> Do you suggest that I re=C2=B4move the entire =E2=80=9C to avoid double instructions? >>>>=20 >>>> /Palle >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>> On 18 Mar 2018, at 17.10, Brian Harrington > wrote: >>>>>=20 >>>>> seems to me if u were gonna write suffixes in 2 or 3 places... u = should at least list them in the same order...=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>> also, getting webdna admin page to display in a web browser with a = domain name or external ip address in itself creates security issues!!!=20= >>>>>=20 >>>>> On Sun, Mar 18, 2018 at 1:57 PM, Palle Bo Nielsen = > wrote: >>>>> Hi Paul >>>>>=20 >>>>> The WebDNA configuration page is configured to handle: >>>>> .tmpl .tpl .tp2 .dna .html .htm >>>>>=20 >>>>> And the Apache httpd.conf file has: >>>>> >>>>> DirectoryIndex index.html index.dna index.tpl >>>>> >>>>>=20 >>>>> Should that not be enough to handle either/or: >>>>> 192.168.1.144/index.html >>>>> 192.168.1.144/index.dna >>>>> ..or just plan... >>>>> 192.168.1.144/ >>>>>=20 >>>>> ?? >>>>>=20 >>>>> /Palle >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>> > On 18 Mar 2018, at 12.54, Paul Willis > wrote: >>>>> > >>>>> > Going to plain 192.168.1.144 will load the first file listed in = your DirectoryIndex which is index.html >>>>> > >>>>> > Is your server configured to process .html files as WebDNA? >>>>> > >>>>> > PW >>>>> > >>>>> >> On 18 Mar 2018, at 09:01, Palle Bo Nielsen = > wrote: >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Progress :) >>>>> >> >>>>> >> So now Apache and WebDNA is installed and I get WebDNA to parse = a simple index.dna page within the /Library/WebServer/Documents/ = directory. Well, =E2=80=A6 that is when I am doing the following >>>>> >> >>>>> >> 192.168.1.144 << it load but does NOT parse any WebDNA, like = [date] [time] >>>>> >> 192.168.1.144/index.dna << it = works and parses WebDNA >>>>> >> >>>>> >> WebAdmin is set to use index.dna and dna is set in the Apache = config. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> DirectoryIndex index.html index.dna index.tpl >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> So why does a plain (=E2=80=9C192.168.1.144=E2=80=9D) use not = load the index.dna file and parse it with WebDNA? >>>>> >> >>>>> >> I even got that admin page to work :) Woah=E2=80=A6 and the sun = is shining from a blue sky in Denmark today maxing out with only -1 = degrees celcius... >>>>> >> >>>>> >> /Palle >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >>> On 18 Mar 2018, at 09.35, Palle Bo Nielsen = > wrote: >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> That just might be my next discovery and if this happens then = I am on my way to a clean OS install. >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> /Palle >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>>> On 18 Mar 2018, at 08.52, christophe.billiottet@webdna.us = wrote: >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> The problem I see is that you first used your server as OSX = Server. The OSX Server installation process replaces Apache, changes the = structure, the configuration files have their names changed, the files = are stored in different folders with different paths... remove the = server, and you do not get back a plain OSX client machine. You get = something hybrid. >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> Chris >>>>> >>>> =46rom mobile >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Mar 18, 2018, at 10:41, Palle Bo Nielsen = > wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Everything you mention sound logical. I have now removed the = server.app but the /Library/Server/ remains. Would it be wise to = manually remove the entire Server directory as I will not be using = Server.app on this device again? Any experience with that. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> /Palle >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> >>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>>> >>>> the mailing list talk@webdna.us >>>>> >>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: talk-leave@webdna.us = >>>>> >>>> archives: http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 = >>>>> >>>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> >>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>>> >>> the mailing list talk@webdna.us >>>>> >>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: talk-leave@webdna.us = >>>>> >>> archives: http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 = >>>>> >>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >>>>> >> >>>>> >> --------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>>> >> the mailing list talk@webdna.us >>>>> >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: talk-leave@webdna.us = >>>>> >> archives: http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 = >>>>> >> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >>>>> > >>>>> > --------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>>> > the mailing list talk@webdna.us >>>>> > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: talk-leave@webdna.us = >>>>> > archives: http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 = >>>>> > Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >>>>>=20 >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>>> the mailing list talk@webdna.us >>>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: talk-leave@webdna.us = >>>>> archives: http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 = >>>>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >>>>>=20 >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- This = message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list = talk@webdna.us To unsubscribe, E-mail to: = talk-leave@webdna.us archives: = http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 = Bug Reporting: = support@webdna.us >>>> --------------------------------------------------------- This = message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list = talk@webdna.us To unsubscribe, E-mail to: = talk-leave@webdna.us archives: = http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 = Bug Reporting: = support@webdna.us >>> --------------------------------------------------------- This = message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list = talk@webdna.us To unsubscribe, E-mail to: = talk-leave@webdna.us archives: = http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 = Bug Reporting: = support@webdna.us >> --------------------------------------------------------- This = message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list = talk@webdna.us To unsubscribe, E-mail to: = talk-leave@webdna.us archives: = http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 = Bug Reporting: = support@webdna.us > --------------------------------------------------------- This message = is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list = talk@webdna.us To unsubscribe, E-mail to: talk-leave@webdna.us archives: = http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 Bug Reporting: = support@webdna.us --Apple-Mail=_F46FFE01-8C8F-4A27-A4C7-2C2AAA68FFB1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 I don=E2=80=99t think that=E2=80=99s unexpected, it=E2=80=99s = exactly what you would expect based on the change you made.

192.168.1.144/index..dna = << Works as it always did

192.168.1.144/  << Works = because the server now uses index.dna being the first file listed in = DirectoryIndex

192.168.1.144/index.html << Never did and still doesn't = work

PW


On 18 Mar 2018, at 19:42, Palle Bo Nielsen <powerpalle@powerpalle.dk> wrote:


So I changed the order of the index parameters so that = index.dna was first. Like this.

<IfModule dir_module>
    DirectoryIndex index.dna= index.html= index.tpl
</IfModule>

The unexpected result = was

192.168.1.144/  << Workds
192.168.1.144/index..dna << Works
192.168.1.144/index.htmlk << Does NOT works even though = "Always interpret WebDNA [xxx] = tags on all pages=E2=80=9D is active and <!--HAS_WEBDNA_TAGS-->
 is also included in the = html.

I = am thinking that index.html somehow might be related to something else = in the apache httpd but can not find anything.

/Palle



On 18 = Mar 2018, at 20.35, Palle Bo Nielsen <powerpalle@powerpalle.dk> wrote:

Currently set to <"Always interpret WebDNA [xxx] tags on all pages=E2=80=9D> = and not working (beside .dna suffix).

Agree on the logic that it is most likely just = a minor config issue somewhere.

/Palle


On 18 = Mar 2018, at 19.43, Paul Willis <paul.willis@me.com> wrote:

Your logic is = sound

Entering...
http://192.168.1.144
Should serve = the first file in your DirectoryIndex list so the same as = entering http://192.168.1.144/index.html

Using=E2=80=A6
http://192.168.1.144/index.html
=E2=80=A6should serve index.html as well. In both cases they = should process WebDNA code (if as Brian suggests you=E2=80=99ve got the = preferences set to parse ALL pages rather than just those with = <!--HAS_WEBDNA_TAGS--> in them).

And finally=E2=80=A6
192.1681.144/index.dna
..as this works = then your server and WebDNA are essentially up and running so it is just = a minor config issue somewhere.

PW

On 18 Mar 2018, at 17:26, Palle Bo Nielsen <powerpalle@powerpalle.dk> wrote:


Let me try to be more = specific.

I = would assume that any URL like 192.168.1.144 would request any Index = file in the orde specified in the Apache https.conf file. So if = 192.168.1.144 was entered then it should service index.html if this = existed in the root directory; if index.html does not exist in the = directory then look for index.dna and if this exists then load this file = in the browser - etc. etc.

My challenge is than nothing is loading then I do not specify = the 192.168.1.144/xxxxxx -file and if I specify 192.168.1.144/index.html = it is not parted by WebDNA, but if I specify 192.1681.144/index.dna i = works.

Do you = suggest that I re=C2=B4move the entire =E2=80=9C<ifMofule = dur-_mofule=E2=80=A6..:> to avoid double instructions?

/Palle


On 18 Mar 2018, at 17.10, Brian Harrington = <autoglasswny@gmail.com> wrote:

seems to me if u were gonna write suffixes in 2 or 3 = places... u should at least list them in the same order... 

also, getting webdna = admin page to display in a web browser with a domain name or external ip = address in itself creates security issues!!! 

On Sun, = Mar 18, 2018 at 1:57 PM, Palle Bo Nielsen <powerpalle@powerpalle.dk> = wrote:
Hi Paul

The WebDNA configuration page is configured to handle:
..tmpl .tpl .tp2 .dna .html .htm

And the Apache httpd.conf file has:
<IfModule dir_module>
    DirectoryIndex index.html index.dna index.tpl
= </IfModule>

Should that not be enough to handle either/or:
192.168.1.144/index.html
192.168.1.144/index.dna
...or just plan...
192.168.1.144/

??

/Palle


> On 18 Mar 2018, at 12.54, Paul Willis <paul.willis@me.com> = wrote:
>
> Going to plain 192.168.1.144 will load the first file listed in = your DirectoryIndex which is index.html
>
> Is your server configured to process .html files as WebDNA?
>
> PW
>
>> On 18 Mar 2018, at 09:01, Palle Bo Nielsen <powerpalle@powerpalle.dk> wrote:
>>
>> Progress :)
>>
>> So now Apache and WebDNA is installed and I get WebDNA to parse = a simple index.dna page within the /Library/WebServer/Documents/ = directory. Well, =E2=80=A6 that is when I am doing the following
>>
>> 192.168.1.144 << it load but does NOT parse any WebDNA, = like [date] [time]
>> 192.168.1.144/index.dna  << = it works and parses WebDNA
>>
>> WebAdmin is set to use index.dna and dna is set in the Apache = config.
>>
>> <IfModule dir_module>
>>   DirectoryIndex index.html index.dna index.tpl
>> </IfModule>
>>
>> So why does a plain (=E2=80=9C192.168.1.144=E2=80=9D) use not = load the index.dna file and parse it with WebDNA?
>>
>> I even got that admin page to work :) Woah=E2=80=A6 and the sun = is shining from a blue sky in Denmark today maxing out with only -1 = degrees celcius...
>>
>> /Palle
>>
>>
>>
>>> On 18 Mar 2018, at 09.35, Palle Bo Nielsen <powerpalle@powerpalle.dk> wrote:
>>>
>>> That just might be my next discovery and if this happens = then I am on my way to a clean OS install.
>>>
>>> /Palle
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 18 Mar 2018, at 08.52, christophe.billiottet@webdna.us wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The problem I see is that you first used your server as = OSX Server. The OSX Server installation process replaces Apache, changes = the structure, the configuration files have their  names changed, = the files are stored in different folders with different paths... remove = the server, and you do not get back a plain OSX client machine. You get = something hybrid.
>>>>
>>>> Chris
>>>> =46rom mobile
>>>>
>>>>> On Mar 18, 2018, at 10:41, Palle Bo Nielsen <powerpalle@powerpalle.dk> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Everything you mention sound logical. I have now = removed the server.app but the /Library/Server/ remains. Would it be = wise to manually remove the entire Server directory as I will not be = using Server.app on this device again? Any experience with that.
>>>>>
>>>>> /Palle
>>>>
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>>>
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