Re: TRAINING videos - Prove IT.

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1998


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texte = Hey I have a great idea! If you could just send me copies of the videos I will put together some QT video clips and put them up on a server for you for free.- ck>I too, have been interested in the videos strictly because the >documentation is so weak. > >I am very concerned that there are no unbiased reviews of them or even >any sample quicktime clips to look at. I would like to at least sample >them somehow to determine the quality of the tapes. Anything short of >that would be stupid since the person/people that organized the videos >appear to be the SAME person/people that created the lame manual. > >However, I inquired about the return policy and was a bit shocked. If I >buy them for 700 bucks and they turn out to be crap, I can return them >but the video company will charge a 25% return fee. Spending 175 bucks >just to find out a product sucks is almost as bad as spending thousands >for a product and then hundreds more for the manual. > > >I know that you don't want people making bootleg copies of the tapes but >can you honestly blame us for being a bit gunshy when it comes to >Pacific-Coast's intructional materials? > > >Come on people - post a few clips of those tapes - Let us feel good about >pouring tons of cash into our chosen database solution. > > >dt. > > > >>Subject: Re: Share cost of training videos! >>Sent: 11/20/98 2:21 PM >>Received: 11/20/98 3:19 PM >>From: Paul Uttermohlen, Paul@columbusrealestate.com >>Reply-To: WebDNA-Talk@smithmicro.com >>To: WebDNA-Talk@smithmicro.com >> >>Jay, >> >>While it may be considered questionable, I don't think that it is so >>obviously or absolutely considered theft. >> >>Two entities can go in together to buy a product and share it. It would be >>theft if company one copied it and sold the copy to company two. See, not >>so obvious, not so absolute. >> >>I could buy a copy and send it to (share it) with anyone on this list that >>asks to borrow it. While it diminishes the potential profit of the >>copyright holder, that in no way constitutes theft. I'd just be a library... >> >>In all fairness, I would not do this. But if challenged, and I love a >>challenge, there would be nothing to stop me. Not even your perception of >>the law. >> >>Paul >> >>>Obviously this is considered theft and Pacific Coast Software would assist >>>the rightful owners of the rights to that material in every way possible. >>> >>>>Yes I would be willing to do this. >>>> >>>>Michael Barnett >>>> >>>>Also we are looking for a webmaster who is up to speed with this >>>>software. If anyone is interested call or email. dugan@pionet.net or >>>>800-859-2024. >>>> >>>>Top pay >>>>benfits >>>>lots of freedom >>> >>>Jay Van Vark ******************************* >>>Pacific Coast Software | eCommerce (WebCatalog) >>>11770 Bernardo Plaza Court | Site Hosting & Development >>>Suite 453 | http://www.smithmicro.com >>>San Diego, CA 92128 ******************************* >>>619.675.1106 >> >> >> _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/|\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_ >> _/_/_/Paul Uttermohlen, Internet Marketspace, Inc. \_\_\_\_ >> _/_/_/ mailto:paul@ims1.com - Website Development \_\_\_\_ >> _/_/_/ Business - _\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_ >> _/_/_/ Real Estate - _\_\_\_\_ >> _/_/_/Websites - Children _/ _\_\_\_ >>_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ | \_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_ >> >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________________________ Charles Kline ckline@macsultants.com MacSultants Professional Solutions for Computer SystemsPhone# 609-273-3255 Fax# 609-273-3721 Associated Messages, from the most recent to the oldest:

    
  1. Re: TRAINING videos - Prove IT. (bobm 1998)
  2. Re: TRAINING videos - Prove IT. (Josh 1998)
  3. Re: TRAINING videos - Prove IT. (The Mooseman 1998)
  4. Re: TRAINING videos - Prove IT. (Josh 1998)
  5. Re: TRAINING videos - Prove IT. (The Mooseman 1998)
  6. Re: TRAINING videos - Prove IT. (Josh 1998)
  7. Re: TRAINING videos - Prove IT. (Jose A. Gordo 1998)
  8. Re: TRAINING videos - Prove IT. (Martin Gertz Bech 1998)
  9. Re: TRAINING videos - Prove IT. (charles kline 1998)
  10. Re: TRAINING videos - Prove IT. (Dave MacLeay 1998)
  11. Re: TRAINING videos - Prove IT. (Josh 1998)
  12. Re: TRAINING videos - Prove IT. (charles kline 1998)
  13. Re: TRAINING videos - Prove IT. (Josh 1998)
  14. Re: TRAINING videos - Prove IT. (Josh 1998)
  15. Re: TRAINING videos - Prove IT. (Mitchel Ahern 1998)
  16. Re: TRAINING videos - Prove IT. (James 1998)
  17. Re: TRAINING videos - Prove IT. (James 1998)
  18. Re: TRAINING videos - Prove IT. (Gregory Scott 1998)
  19. Re: TRAINING videos - Prove IT. (charles kline 1998)
  20. TRAINING videos - Prove IT. (Dan Tryon 1998)
Hey I have a great idea! If you could just send me copies of the videos I will put together some QT video clips and put them up on a server for you for free.- ck>I too, have been interested in the videos strictly because the >documentation is so weak. > >I am very concerned that there are no unbiased reviews of them or even >any sample quicktime clips to look at. I would like to at least sample >them somehow to determine the quality of the tapes. Anything short of >that would be stupid since the person/people that organized the videos >appear to be the SAME person/people that created the lame manual. > >However, I inquired about the return policy and was a bit shocked. If I >buy them for 700 bucks and they turn out to be crap, I can return them >but the video company will charge a 25% return fee. Spending 175 bucks >just to find out a product sucks is almost as bad as spending thousands >for a product and then hundreds more for the manual. > > >I know that you don't want people making bootleg copies of the tapes but >can you honestly blame us for being a bit gunshy when it comes to >Pacific-Coast's intructional materials? > > >Come on people - post a few clips of those tapes - Let us feel good about >pouring tons of cash into our chosen database solution. > > >dt. > > > >>Subject: Re: Share cost of training videos! >>Sent: 11/20/98 2:21 PM >>Received: 11/20/98 3:19 PM >>From: Paul Uttermohlen, Paul@columbusrealestate.com >>Reply-To: WebDNA-Talk@smithmicro.com >>To: WebDNA-Talk@smithmicro.com >> >>Jay, >> >>While it may be considered questionable, I don't think that it is so >>obviously or absolutely considered theft. >> >>Two entities can go in together to buy a product and share it. It would be >>theft if company one copied it and sold the copy to company two. See, not >>so obvious, not so absolute. >> >>I could buy a copy and send it to (share it) with anyone on this list that >>asks to borrow it. While it diminishes the potential profit of the >>copyright holder, that in no way constitutes theft. I'd just be a library... >> >>In all fairness, I would not do this. But if challenged, and I love a >>challenge, there would be nothing to stop me. Not even your perception of >>the law. >> >>Paul >> >>>Obviously this is considered theft and Pacific Coast Software would assist >>>the rightful owners of the rights to that material in every way possible. >>> >>>>Yes I would be willing to do this. >>>> >>>>Michael Barnett >>>> >>>>Also we are looking for a webmaster who is up to speed with this >>>>software. If anyone is interested call or email. dugan@pionet.net or >>>>800-859-2024. >>>> >>>>Top pay >>>>benfits >>>>lots of freedom >>> >>>Jay Van Vark ******************************* >>>Pacific Coast Software | eCommerce (WebCatalog) >>>11770 Bernardo Plaza Court | Site Hosting & Development >>>Suite 453 | http://www.smithmicro.com >>>San Diego, CA 92128 ******************************* >>>619.675.1106 >> >> >> _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/|\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_ >> _/_/_/Paul Uttermohlen, Internet Marketspace, Inc. \_\_\_\_ >> _/_/_/ mailto:paul@ims1.com - Website Development \_\_\_\_ >> _/_/_/ Business - _\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_ >> _/_/_/ Real Estate - _\_\_\_\_ >> _/_/_/Websites - Children _/ _\_\_\_ >>_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ | \_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_ >> >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________________________ Charles Kline ckline@macsultants.com MacSultants Professional Solutions for Computer SystemsPhone# 609-273-3255 Fax# 609-273-3721 charles kline

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