Re: Invisible file issue now a real 'bug'
This WebDNA talk-list message is from 1999
It keeps the original formatting.
numero = 25640
interpreted = N
texte = >I think invisible Icon_ files pop up when sharing. I think it's where the >system puts info regarding how to display the folder - open; closed; etc. on >accessing systems. I've seen the file appear after accessing a volume with >Timbuktu and AppleTalk file sharing. > >Ken pounded me pretty hard last time I suggested that it might be sharing, >but it seems logical that these files are probably a means of speeding up >display of shared volumes.I have had file sharing turned off completely for the past week or so, and I still get these files showing up in places where they never existed before -- even with file sharing off -- so there's more to it than just the fact that file sharing is on ... >The real problem is that Apple's OS erratically deposits these terds. >Shouldn't there be a more elegant way to do this?I think the MacOS should be able to place its invisible files any place it wants them -- and I think that MacOS programmers who wish to write properly-coded programs for the MacOS should follow the rules and not allow their programs to recognize or manipulate those invisible files. > >Ion 12/17/99 10:15 AM, Christer Olsson at christer@ljusaideer.se wrote: > >>>> A bug in your code? Yes. A bug in Webcat? No. What you describe >>>> is a coding style which is not adequately defensive. >>> >>> Wrong, no one knew about this until I found it and posted the facts >>> to this list less than two weeks ago. If anything it's PCS's fault >>> for letting this kind of thing out without adequately documenting >>> the PROPER coding methods so we don't have to worry about MacOS >>> invisible files being trashed by webcatalog ... >>> >>> Webcat should NOT recognize invisible files any more than webstar >>> does! Webcat is not an expert OS manipulation tool, like ResEdi, it >>> a CGI that's supposed to leave the OS alone -- and that includes >>> invisible files placed on the drive by the OS. >> >> I agree with Ken fully here. The default behaviour should be not to show >> invisible files, if one would like to show invisible files one should have to >> add a &Invisible=T or something like that. >> >> I was bitten by something similar as Ken was a couple of weeks ago, when a >> file listing started to show the Temporary Items and Network Trash Folder >> in a shared folder. Easy to work around, but not very user-friendly. >> >> ************************************************************* >> Christer Olsson Stora Nygatan 21 Phone +46 40 791 50 >> Ljusa Idéer AB S-211 37 Malmoe Fax +46 40 97 99 77 >> Sweden http://www.ljusaideer.se >> >> ############################################################# >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list
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>I think invisible Icon_ files pop up when sharing. I think it's where the >system puts info regarding how to display the folder - open; closed; etc. on >accessing systems. I've seen the file appear after accessing a volume with >Timbuktu and AppleTalk file sharing. > >Ken pounded me pretty hard last time I suggested that it might be sharing, >but it seems logical that these files are probably a means of speeding up >display of shared volumes.I have had file sharing turned off completely for the past week or so, and I still get these files showing up in places where they never existed before -- even with file sharing off -- so there's more to it than just the fact that file sharing is on ... >The real problem is that Apple's OS erratically deposits these terds. >Shouldn't there be a more elegant way to do this?I think the MacOS should be able to place its invisible files any place it wants them -- and I think that MacOS programmers who wish to write properly-coded programs for the MacOS should follow the rules and not allow their programs to recognize or manipulate those invisible files. > >Ion 12/17/99 10:15 AM, Christer Olsson at christer@ljusaideer.se wrote: > >>>> A bug in your code? Yes. A bug in Webcat? No. What you describe >>>> is a coding style which is not adequately defensive. >>> >>> Wrong, no one knew about this until I found it and posted the facts >>> to this list less than two weeks ago. If anything it's PCS's fault >>> for letting this kind of thing out without adequately documenting >>> the PROPER coding methods so we don't have to worry about MacOS >>> invisible files being trashed by webcatalog ... >>> >>> Webcat should NOT recognize invisible files any more than webstar >>> does! Webcat is not an expert OS manipulation tool, like ResEdi, it >>> a CGI that's supposed to leave the OS alone -- and that includes >>> invisible files placed on the drive by the OS. >> >> I agree with Ken fully here. The default behaviour should be not to show >> invisible files, if one would like to show invisible files one should have to >> add a &Invisible=T or something like that. >> >> I was bitten by something similar as Ken was a couple of weeks ago, when a >> file listing started to show the Temporary Items and Network Trash Folder >> in a shared folder. Easy to work around, but not very user-friendly. >> >> ************************************************************* >> Christer Olsson Stora Nygatan 21 Phone +46 40 791 50 >> Ljusa Idéer AB S-211 37 Malmoe Fax +46 40 97 99 77 >> Sweden http://www.ljusaideer.se >> >> ############################################################# >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >> >> To switch to the INDEX mode, E-mail to >> >> Send administrative queries to >> > > >############################################################# >This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . >To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >To switch to the INDEX mode, E-mail to >Send administrative queries to ================================ Kenneth Grome, WebDNA Consultant 808-737-6499, http://webdna.net ================================############################################################# This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to To switch to the INDEX mode, E-mail to Send administrative queries to
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