Re: Reserved words - Enhancement request
This WebDNA talk-list message is from 2000
It keeps the original formatting.
numero = 28451
interpreted = N
texte = >I totally agree, but I think that it is too late now. There is a lot >of code that would break if they renamed the tags.I disagree!Nothing will break sites developed for 3.x versions unless the user upgrades, and there's no reason why anyone would HAVE TO upgrade to a newer version. This is not a communist country and we are not forced to upgrade -- we will *always* have a choice of whether to upgrade or not.Saying it's too late is just an excuse, because it is NEVER too late to fix problems. Any prudent software firm will fix every bug or problematic feature it is aware of -- if it actually hopes to make its software the best possible product in the long run ...Any site that currently runs webcatalog 3.x will continue to work fine while running version 3.x, so to ignore this fix at the expense of everyone who might end up buying webcatalog in the future is a decision based not on the future quality of the product, but on other parameters such as whatever is 'easiest' or 'cheapest' thing to do ...It takes real pride in your product to 'bite the bullet' and fix things that should have been fixed a long time ago, especially when the fixing might make more work for you and cost your company some money in the short term. IT seems to me that the most successful companies all over the world tend to fix things when their users inform them of problems, especially when those same users care enough to spend their time describing the problems and suggesting potential solutions.What's more, I see no reason why a new version with this stuff fixed cannot be run on the same server that already has an older version of webcatalog running on it -- provided SM recognizes the need of some users to continue using an old version concurrently with a new version on the same box.>There IS something we can do now AND something that SM could do to >ease the pain. > >We as users should start coding all db field names with a 2 character >prefix. dbPrice or myPrice would solve the problem.No this will not solve the problem. The shopping cart code built into in webcatalog *requires* a price field in the database, and it also references a price field in the cart file. These field names are non-negotiable, and there will continue to be problems whenever a [price] tag is used inside a founditems context which appears inside or around an orderfile context -- unless work-arounds are implemented.================================ Kenneth Grome, WebDNA Consultant 808-737-6499 http://webdna.net ================================------------------------------------------------------------- Brought to you by CommuniGate Pro - The Buzz Word Compliant Messaging Server. To end your Mail problems go to
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>I totally agree, but I think that it is too late now. There is a lot >of code that would break if they renamed the tags.I disagree!Nothing will break sites developed for 3.x versions unless the user upgrades, and there's no reason why anyone would HAVE TO upgrade to a newer version. This is not a communist country and we are not forced to upgrade -- we will *always* have a choice of whether to upgrade or not.Saying it's too late is just an excuse, because it is NEVER too late to fix problems. Any prudent software firm will fix every bug or problematic feature it is aware of -- if it actually hopes to make its software the best possible product in the long run ...Any site that currently runs webcatalog 3.x will continue to work fine while running version 3.x, so to ignore this fix at the expense of everyone who might end up buying webcatalog in the future is a decision based not on the future quality of the product, but on other parameters such as whatever is 'easiest' or 'cheapest' thing to do ...It takes real pride in your product to 'bite the bullet' and fix things that should have been fixed a long time ago, especially when the fixing might make more work for you and cost your company some money in the short term. IT seems to me that the most successful companies all over the world tend to fix things when their users inform them of problems, especially when those same users care enough to spend their time describing the problems and suggesting potential solutions.What's more, I see no reason why a new version with this stuff fixed cannot be run on the same server that already has an older version of webcatalog running on it -- provided SM recognizes the need of some users to continue using an old version concurrently with a new version on the same box.>There IS something we can do now AND something that SM could do to >ease the pain. > >We as users should start coding all db field names with a 2 character >prefix. dbPrice or myPrice would solve the problem.No this will not solve the problem. The shopping cart code built into in webcatalog *requires* a price field in the database, and it also references a price field in the cart file. These field names are non-negotiable, and there will continue to be problems whenever a [price] tag is used inside a founditems context which appears inside or around an orderfile context -- unless work-arounds are implemented.================================ Kenneth Grome, WebDNA Consultant 808-737-6499 http://webdna.net ================================------------------------------------------------------------- Brought to you by CommuniGate Pro - The Buzz Word Compliant Messaging Server. To end your Mail problems go to .This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to
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