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Re: Hiding the URL(was Cart ID Duplication)

This WebDNA talk-list message is from

2001


It keeps the original formatting.
numero = 36807
interpreted = N
texte = You may want to really think hard about what your priorities are regarding frames for the purpose of simply hiding a URL.Frames are great in certain applications but you will pay a usability price. Just sit in front of a 15 monitor running AOL's screen-hogging browser (full of open windows and flashing ads) and then try to run through your site using frames - it'll make you think twice - and then consider how many folks are running in that exact environment.On the other hand you can use forms to hide the URL or even use a preprocessor (like Welcome) to translate a set of pseudo URLs into a real address. That way if someone tries to muck with your site by putting in their own URL they won't go anywhere anyway. You also have a way of trapping on such attempts - if that is useful to you.HTH -Martyon 6/28/01 9:46 AM, Paul Uttermohlen at Paul@ColumbusRealEstate.com wrote:>> On 6/28/01 11:14 AM, Donovan Brooke wrote: >> >>> duh, :-) Frames set. thanks for the other suggestions though. >>> Using a frame may help hide the URL but the down side is >>> that maybe all our customers won't support frames??? >> Who won't support frames? This was a debate back in 1995, but I think this >> is long past. >> >> Robert Minor >> Director of Internet Services > > Some spiders still don't support frames making framed sites less > attractive to companies that need to be found in the search engines. > Most spiders are still only http 1.0 compliant. > > Not everyone has control over which browser they use. Some corporate > IT/IS departments resist upgrading. Some schools and institutions are > slow to upgrade. > > But I agree with you. These people who do not or cannot upgrade are a > very small portion of potential users. The bar has been lifted > (repeatedly). Make them jump just a little bit higher. > > Paul > > _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/|\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_ > _/_/_/ Paul Uttermohlen, Chief Technical Officer \_\_\_\_ > _/_/_/ Interactive Ink, Incorporated > \_\_\_\_ > _/_/_/ mailto:paul@interactiveink.com > \_\_\_\_ > _/_/_/ > \_\_\_\_ > _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ | \_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_ > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > > Web Archive of this list is at: http://search.smithmicro.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://search.smithmicro.com/ Associated Messages, from the most recent to the oldest:

    
  1. Re: Hiding the URL(was Cart ID Duplication) (Donovan Brooke 2001)
  2. Re: Hiding the URL(was Cart ID Duplication) (Marty Schmid 2001)
  3. Re: Hiding the URL(was Cart ID Duplication) (Bob Minor 2001)
  4. Re: Hiding the URL(was Cart ID Duplication) (Paul Uttermohlen 2001)
  5. Re: Hiding the URL(was Cart ID Duplication) (Paolo Coppo 2001)
  6. Re: Hiding the URL(was Cart ID Duplication) (Bob Minor 2001)
  7. Re: Hiding the URL(was Cart ID Duplication) (Donovan Brooke 2001)
  8. Re: Hiding the URL(was Cart ID Duplication) (Donovan Brooke 2001)
  9. Re: Hiding the URL(was Cart ID Duplication) (Anup Setty 2001)
  10. Re: Hiding the URL(was Cart ID Duplication) (Nitai @ ComputerOil 2001)
  11. Re: Hiding the URL(was Cart ID Duplication) (Nitai @ ComputerOil 2001)
  12. Re: Hiding the URL(was Cart ID Duplication) (John Peacock 2001)
  13. Re: Hiding the URL(was Cart ID Duplication) (Paolo Coppo 2001)
  14. Re: Hiding the URL(was Cart ID Duplication) (Bob Minor 2001)
  15. Re: Hiding the URL(was Cart ID Duplication) (Donovan Brooke 2001)
You may want to really think hard about what your priorities are regarding frames for the purpose of simply hiding a URL.Frames are great in certain applications but you will pay a usability price. Just sit in front of a 15 monitor running AOL's screen-hogging browser (full of open windows and flashing ads) and then try to run through your site using frames - it'll make you think twice - and then consider how many folks are running in that exact environment.On the other hand you can use forms to hide the URL or even use a preprocessor (like Welcome) to translate a set of pseudo URLs into a real address. That way if someone tries to muck with your site by putting in their own URL they won't go anywhere anyway. You also have a way of trapping on such attempts - if that is useful to you.HTH -Martyon 6/28/01 9:46 AM, Paul Uttermohlen at Paul@ColumbusRealEstate.com wrote:>> On 6/28/01 11:14 AM, Donovan Brooke wrote: >> >>> duh, :-) Frames set. thanks for the other suggestions though. >>> Using a frame may help hide the URL but the down side is >>> that maybe all our customers won't support frames??? >> Who won't support frames? This was a debate back in 1995, but I think this >> is long past. >> >> Robert Minor >> Director of Internet Services > > Some spiders still don't support frames making framed sites less > attractive to companies that need to be found in the search engines. > Most spiders are still only http 1.0 compliant. > > Not everyone has control over which browser they use. Some corporate > IT/IS departments resist upgrading. Some schools and institutions are > slow to upgrade. > > But I agree with you. These people who do not or cannot upgrade are a > very small portion of potential users. The bar has been lifted > (repeatedly). Make them jump just a little bit higher. > > Paul > > _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/|\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_ > _/_/_/ Paul Uttermohlen, Chief Technical Officer \_\_\_\_ > _/_/_/ Interactive Ink, Incorporated > \_\_\_\_ > _/_/_/ mailto:paul@interactiveink.com > \_\_\_\_ > _/_/_/ > \_\_\_\_ > _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ | \_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_ > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > > Web Archive of this list is at: http://search.smithmicro.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://search.smithmicro.com/ Marty Schmid

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