Re: Semi-OT: PanIP patent infringement case
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texte = Get a lawyer. Sounds fishy. Might be a scam.----- Original Message -----From: Dale LaFountain
To: WebCatalog Talk Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 5:00 PMSubject: Semi-OT: PanIP patent infringement case> Since most of us run e-commerce websites here, I'm hoping someone> else has already seen this:>> Two days ago we received a letter in the mail (not certified, btw)> from a Patent and Trademarks office (attorneys) in San Diego> representing PanIP, who is the exclusive licensee of a portfolio of> US and Canadian patents that relate to the distribution of> information, goods, or services through computerized systems.>> They claim that our websites infringe on several of their patents> relating to a computer search system using both textual and> graphical entry paths, and a computerized system that permits an> individual to select or order information, goods or services from a> data processing installation.>> How our site does these things differently than the thousands of> other websites in the world, I have no idea. The site they sent> screenshots of is darkhorse.com, our corporate website that does not> even sell directly. Go figure...>> They are demanding $20k and a signed patent covenant to protect us> from future litigation (HA!). Our legal counsel is preparing our> response now.>> My question is: has anyone else seen this or similar demand letter,> and if so, what was your response?>> I find it difficult to believe that we're being singled out as the> ONLY alleged infringer on these poorly worded patents that describe> the activity of EVERY e-commerce site on the Internet. There are> certainly much bigger fish in the Internet ocean than my company. I> poked around a few search engines, and could not find any references> to this company or the patent infringements.>> I talked with the product manager at SMSI (since one of the patents> involves automated payment processing, SMSI would likely be pulled> into this battle if it ever got off the ground), and they haven't> heard anything about this either.>> The PanIP website contains some information on this topic if anyone> is interested in reading up before your personalized demand letter> arrives. :\ http://www.panip.com/company.htm>> Thanks,>> Dale> -->> Dale LaFountain> Vice President of Information Technology, WebMaster> Dark Horse Comics, Inc. mailto:dalel@darkhorse.com> Phone: 503-652-8815 x324 http://www.darkhorse.com/>> -------------------------------------------------------------> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to> the mailing list .> From ???@??? Mon Nov 05 07:24:56 2001Return-Path: X-ListServer: CommuniGate Pro LIST 3.4.2List-Unsubscribe: Message-ID: Reply-To: (WebCatalog Talk)Sender: (WebCatalog Talk)To: (WebCatalog Talk)Precedence: listX-Original-Message-ID: <003001c163eb$f0a516a0$4439fea9@vaio>From: Bob McPeak Subject: Re: Semi-OT: PanIP patent infringement caseFrom ???@??? Mon Nov 05 07:24:57 2001Return-Path: X-ListServer: CommuniGate Pro LIST 3.4.2List-Unsubscribe: Message-ID: Reply-To: (WebCatalog Talk)Sender: (WebCatalog Talk)To: (WebCatalog Talk)Precedence: listDate: Fri, 02 Nov 2001 16:29:10 -0600Subject: Re: Semi-OT: PanIP patent infringement caseFrom: Bob Minor X-Original-Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCIIOn 11/2/01 4:15 PM, Bob McPeak wrote:> Get a lawyer. Sounds fishy. Might be a scam.That PanIP is a great website!These guys appear to be full of shite!Robert MinorDirector of Internet Services------------------------------------------------------------Cybermill Communicationshttp://www.cybermill.com http://www.merchantmaker.comProviding Ecommerce and interactive website development andhosting services on Macintosh, Windows NT, Unix, and AS/400.All your websites are belong to us!-------------------------------------------------------------This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list .To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://search.smithmicro.com/
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Get a lawyer. Sounds fishy. Might be a scam.----- Original Message -----From: Dale LaFountain To: WebCatalog Talk Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 5:00 PMSubject: Semi-OT: PanIP patent infringement case> Since most of us run e-commerce websites here, I'm hoping someone> else has already seen this:>> Two days ago we received a letter in the mail (not certified, btw)> from a Patent and Trademarks office (attorneys) in San Diego> representing PanIP, who is the exclusive licensee of a portfolio of> US and Canadian patents that relate to the distribution of> information, goods, or services through computerized systems.>> They claim that our websites infringe on several of their patents> relating to a computer search system using both textual and> graphical entry paths, and a computerized system that permits an> individual to select or order information, goods or services from a> data processing installation.>> How our site does these things differently than the thousands of> other websites in the world, I have no idea. The site they sent> screenshots of is darkhorse.com, our corporate website that does not> even sell directly. Go figure...>> They are demanding $20k and a signed patent covenant to protect us> from future litigation (HA!). Our legal counsel is preparing our> response now.>> My question is: has anyone else seen this or similar demand letter,> and if so, what was your response?>> I find it difficult to believe that we're being singled out as the> ONLY alleged infringer on these poorly worded patents that describe> the activity of EVERY e-commerce site on the Internet. There are> certainly much bigger fish in the Internet ocean than my company. I> poked around a few search engines, and could not find any references> to this company or the patent infringements.>> I talked with the product manager at SMSI (since one of the patents> involves automated payment processing, SMSI would likely be pulled> into this battle if it ever got off the ground), and they haven't> heard anything about this either.>> The PanIP website contains some information on this topic if anyone> is interested in reading up before your personalized demand letter> arrives. :\ http://www.panip.com/company.htm>> Thanks,>> Dale> -->> Dale LaFountain> Vice President of Information Technology, WebMaster> Dark Horse Comics, Inc. mailto:dalel@darkhorse.com> Phone: 503-652-8815 x324 http://www.darkhorse.com/>> -------------------------------------------------------------> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to> the mailing list .> From ???@??? Mon Nov 05 07:24:56 2001Return-Path: X-ListServer: CommuniGate Pro LIST 3.4.2List-Unsubscribe: Message-ID: Reply-To: (WebCatalog Talk)Sender: (WebCatalog Talk)To: (WebCatalog Talk)Precedence: listX-Original-Message-ID: <003001c163eb$f0a516a0$4439fea9@vaio>From: Bob McPeak Subject: Re: Semi-OT: PanIP patent infringement caseFrom ???@??? Mon Nov 05 07:24:57 2001Return-Path: X-ListServer: CommuniGate Pro LIST 3.4.2List-Unsubscribe: Message-ID: Reply-To: (WebCatalog Talk)Sender: (WebCatalog Talk)To: (WebCatalog Talk)Precedence: listDate: Fri, 02 Nov 2001 16:29:10 -0600Subject: Re: Semi-OT: PanIP patent infringement caseFrom: Bob Minor X-Original-Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCIIOn 11/2/01 4:15 PM, Bob McPeak wrote:> Get a lawyer. Sounds fishy. Might be a scam.That PanIP is a great website!These guys appear to be full of shite!Robert MinorDirector of Internet Services------------------------------------------------------------Cybermill Communicationshttp://www.cybermill.com http://www.merchantmaker.comProviding Ecommerce and interactive website development andhosting services on Macintosh, Windows NT, Unix, and AS/400.All your websites are belong to us!-------------------------------------------------------------This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list .To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://search.smithmicro.com/
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