Re: SMSI: WebDNA Versions?
This WebDNA talk-list message is from 2002
It keeps the original formatting.
numero = 41389
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texte = Question: What will the users see should the 10-request limit be hit? Will they simply be delayed until WebDNA has a free slot to process the page in, or will they receive a server busy error message? The error message would be a critical flaw, particularly if the user is submitting a form. If it is an error message, is it one we can modify?- brianAt 7:16 PM 7/10/02, dylan wood wrote: >Thanks for the advice on the technical logging, I'll check that out. >Really my biggest concern is that it's hard enough to get companies >to purchase as it is. There have been a few inquiries as of late >and I know that they have been comparing what they get with >coldfusion vs typhoon pro. Now that typhoon pro is no more and the >current offering has limitations compared to the old, it will hurt >prospects. I guess my point lies more in the fact that even if some >limits are within reason for some clients, the fact that there is >ANY LIMITATION, where there was previously none, is scary to them! >Switching over to new technology is scarry enough without having to >say oh, we raised the price and put in more limitations, >especially when the comparison process has already begun! > >dylan > >>10 concurrent page requests is a fair bit .. >>We run busy domains and hardly ever get 2 requests at exactly the same time. >> >>Next time you have a minute turn on the technical logging in WebDNA, >>whereever the elapsed time numbers go funny .. Like from 3 to 3664856463783 >>is where the engine is actually multithreading .. >> >>We only ever got this once every 20-30 minutes .. Other than that WebDNA was >>handling everything one page at a time .. >> >>We serve 40,000 users a month on that server .. >> >>Alain >> >> >>> I have a few mid sized customers who I have convinced to put typhoon >>> pro on their servers. >>> Now they are interested in webdna due to what it has done for them >>> and they justify >>> the original expenditure of 600.00 after the fact, but they would >>> NEVER spend 2,000.00. >>> >>> There are plenty of mid sized companies out there who have enough >>> volume on their single domain to justify unlimited >>> concurrent connections. They used to get in at 599.00, they now have >>> to get in at 1995.00 This makes it much harder as >>> a development company to price these things. Especially since many >>> of the mid sized companies out there have a department >>> in-house which hosts on-site. Many of these are the companies who >>> already have php,asp,cfm on their servers and >>> aren't easy to convince to take the webDNA plunge. AND IT REALLY >>> SEEMS LIKE A DEEPER PLUNGE THAN ITS EVER BEEN BEFORE! >>> >>> AND DON'T TELL ME THAT THE PRICING ON THE INTRANET AND ENTERPRISE >>> EDITIONS WILL MAKE ME HAPPY AND >>> FIX THIS ISSUE, BECAUSE THEY AREN'T EVEN DUE OUT FOR 1-2 YEARS! >>> >>>> Old: Typhoon Pro $600 New: WebDNA - Partner Edition $899 >>>> Same product feature set as Typhoon Pro, updated to include all 4.5 >>>> enhancements. Unlimited domains, limited to 10 concurrent page requests >>>> (not connections), which is adequate for a small number of production >>>> domains or moderate traffic volume. This was in response to requests for >>>> the continued availability of a Typhoon Pro like product for the use in >>>> vertical applications (typically non-commerce), which are usually targeted >>>> at specific end customers that are not hosting numerous domains. Hosting >>>> providers that have a large number of hosted sites or very heavy traffic >>>> volume should purchase Commerce Edition (that has unlimited connections), >>>> which was reduced by $1,500 to the current price of $1,995. >>> >>>------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list
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Question: What will the users see should the 10-request limit be hit? Will they simply be delayed until WebDNA has a free slot to process the page in, or will they receive a server busy error message? The error message would be a critical flaw, particularly if the user is submitting a form. If it is an error message, is it one we can modify?- brianAt 7:16 PM 7/10/02, dylan wood wrote: >Thanks for the advice on the technical logging, I'll check that out. >Really my biggest concern is that it's hard enough to get companies >to purchase as it is. There have been a few inquiries as of late >and I know that they have been comparing what they get with >coldfusion vs typhoon pro. Now that typhoon pro is no more and the >current offering has limitations compared to the old, it will hurt >prospects. I guess my point lies more in the fact that even if some >limits are within reason for some clients, the fact that there is >ANY LIMITATION, where there was previously none, is scary to them! >Switching over to new technology is scarry enough without having to >say oh, we raised the price and put in more limitations, >especially when the comparison process has already begun! > >dylan > >>10 concurrent page requests is a fair bit .. >>We run busy domains and hardly ever get 2 requests at exactly the same time. >> >>Next time you have a minute turn on the technical logging in WebDNA, >>whereever the elapsed time numbers go funny .. Like from 3 to 3664856463783 >>is where the engine is actually multithreading .. >> >>We only ever got this once every 20-30 minutes .. Other than that WebDNA was >>handling everything one page at a time .. >> >>We serve 40,000 users a month on that server .. >> >>Alain >> >> >>> I have a few mid sized customers who I have convinced to put typhoon >>> pro on their servers. >>> Now they are interested in webdna due to what it has done for them >>> and they justify >>> the original expenditure of 600.00 after the fact, but they would >>> NEVER spend 2,000.00. >>> >>> There are plenty of mid sized companies out there who have enough >>> volume on their single domain to justify unlimited >>> concurrent connections. They used to get in at 599.00, they now have >>> to get in at 1995.00 This makes it much harder as >>> a development company to price these things. Especially since many >>> of the mid sized companies out there have a department >>> in-house which hosts on-site. Many of these are the companies who >>> already have php,asp,cfm on their servers and >>> aren't easy to convince to take the webDNA plunge. AND IT REALLY >>> SEEMS LIKE A DEEPER PLUNGE THAN ITS EVER BEEN BEFORE! >>> >>> AND DON'T TELL ME THAT THE PRICING ON THE INTRANET AND ENTERPRISE >>> EDITIONS WILL MAKE ME HAPPY AND >>> FIX THIS ISSUE, BECAUSE THEY AREN'T EVEN DUE OUT FOR 1-2 YEARS! >>> >>>> Old: Typhoon Pro $600 New: WebDNA - Partner Edition $899 >>>> Same product feature set as Typhoon Pro, updated to include all 4.5 >>>> enhancements. Unlimited domains, limited to 10 concurrent page requests >>>> (not connections), which is adequate for a small number of production >>>> domains or moderate traffic volume. This was in response to requests for >>>> the continued availability of a Typhoon Pro like product for the use in >>>> vertical applications (typically non-commerce), which are usually targeted >>>> at specific end customers that are not hosting numerous domains. Hosting >>>> providers that have a large number of hosted sites or very heavy traffic >>>> volume should purchase Commerce Edition (that has unlimited connections), >>>> which was reduced by $1,500 to the current price of $1,995. >>> >>>------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://search.smithmicro.com/
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