Re: Disappearing data

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2002


It keeps the original formatting.
numero = 43022
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texte = well.. Yes, we have all backups - that's no the issue. The issue is that it's a live system and there's a limit to how many times I want to waste my developers' time on restoring everything from scratch. timOn Thu, 29 Aug 2002, Dan Strong wrote:> ...and you were backing it all up in quadruplicate and > mailing copies of it to yourself and also sending it via > satellite feed to the computer you keep in the bomb > shelter as well as encoding it in cochroach DNA to ensure > that it would live on long after mankind has destroyed > itself, right? > > ...and you restored all 5 months worth of data and > everything is fine, right? > > Backups rock, my man. Me no more stay up all night > rebuilding files from scratch...learned the hard way... > > -Dan > > > >I understand. Unfortunately some of the data lost covers > >almost 5 months > >worth of recorded data. > >Tim > > > >On Thu, 29 Aug 2002, Donovan Brooke wrote: > > > >> > >> > >> Timur Ruban wrote: > >> > >> > Pretty much the same here. We started having a number > >>of random problems: > >> > - Frequent WebDNA service shut downs > >> > >> Tim, if your WebDNA crashes you have a chance of loosing > >>any new data that has not > >> been written to the hard disk. > >> > >> Make sure your databases are committed often enough. > >> > >> > > >> > - database records randomly cloning themselves (upto > >>75 identical records > >> > from one visitor in tima frame of 1 minute) > >> > >> Sounds like a refresh or something > >> > >> > > >> > - .. and now of course those disappearing chunks of > >>data. the last one > >> > was the largest one - I believe around 5 months worth > >>of data (about 70K > >> > records from 150K total in the database). > >> > Tim > >> > >> We have 1500 products or so in our main store and > >>haven't lost a single character. > >> > >> Site has been running for approx. 8 months or so now. > >> MacOS - 4.5 > >> > >> Donovan > >> > >> > > >> > > >> > On Thu, 29 Aug 2002, marc malacarme wrote: > >> > > >> > > I had it happen on OS9 though with webstar webcat > >>4.5. I didn't loose a > >> > > couple I lost a large chunk. Since no one ever > >>complained about such an > >> > > issue on the list thought it might have been user > >>error or a fluke. > >> > > > >> > > > Hi, > >> > > > Have anyone had any problems with data > >>disappearing by itself from WebDNA > >> > > > 4.5 databases? Since upgrading a couple of our > >>customers to v. 4.5 we > >> > > > have been observing instances (on both OS X and > >>Solaris environments) when > >> > > > large chunks of data have disappeared from the > >>databases. They are random > >> > > > and range from couple of records all the way to > >>tens of thousands. > >> > > > Any thoughts? > >> > > > > >> > > > Tim Ruban > >> > > > Executive VP > >> > > > FRONTEX > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------------------------------------- > >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed > >>to > >> the mailing list . > >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > >> > >> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > >> > >> Web Archive of this list is at: > >>http://search.smithmicro.com/ > >> > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------- > >This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > > the mailing list . > >To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > > > >To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > > > >Web Archive of this list is at: > >http://search.smithmicro.com/ > > ------------------------------------------- > http://www.StrongGraphicDesign.com > (208) 319-0137 | Toll-free p/f 877-561-1656 > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > Web Archive of this list is at: http://search.smithmicro.com/ > ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://search.smithmicro.com/ Associated Messages, from the most recent to the oldest:

    
  1. Re: Disappearing data (Timur Ruban 2002)
  2. Re: Disappearing data (Timur Ruban 2002)
  3. Re: Disappearing data (Kenneth Grome 2002)
  4. Re: Disappearing data (Donovan Brooke 2002)
  5. Re: Disappearing data [OT] (Donovan Brooke 2002)
  6. Re: Disappearing data (Bob Minor 2002)
  7. Re: Disappearing data (Dan Strong 2002)
  8. Re: Disappearing data (Kenneth Grome 2002)
  9. Re: Disappearing data (Timur Ruban 2002)
  10. Re: Disappearing data (Dan Strong 2002)
  11. Re: Disappearing data [OT] (Rob Marquardt 2002)
  12. Re: Disappearing data (Sal D'anna 2002)
  13. Re: Disappearing data (Donovan Brooke 2002)
  14. Re: Disappearing data (Timur Ruban 2002)
  15. Re: Disappearing data (marc malacarme 2002)
  16. Disappearing data (Timur Ruban 2002)
  17. Re: Disappearing Databases (Larry Hewitt 2000)
  18. Re: Disappearing Databases (Kenneth Grome 2000)
  19. Re: Disappearing Databases (Larry Hewitt 2000)
  20. Re: Disappearing Databases (Kenneth Grome 2000)
  21. Re: Disappearing Databases (Paul Uttermohlen 2000)
  22. Re: Disappearing Databases (Kenneth Grome 2000)
  23. Disappearing Databases (Alex Cheparev 2000)
  24. Re: Disappearing Database (Ross Markbreiter 1998)
  25. Disappearing Database (Angel Bennett 1998)
well.. Yes, we have all backups - that's no the issue. The issue is that it's a live system and there's a limit to how many times I want to waste my developers' time on restoring everything from scratch. timOn Thu, 29 Aug 2002, Dan Strong wrote:> ...and you were backing it all up in quadruplicate and > mailing copies of it to yourself and also sending it via > satellite feed to the computer you keep in the bomb > shelter as well as encoding it in cochroach DNA to ensure > that it would live on long after mankind has destroyed > itself, right? > > ...and you restored all 5 months worth of data and > everything is fine, right? > > Backups rock, my man. Me no more stay up all night > rebuilding files from scratch...learned the hard way... > > -Dan > > > >I understand. Unfortunately some of the data lost covers > >almost 5 months > >worth of recorded data. > >Tim > > > >On Thu, 29 Aug 2002, Donovan Brooke wrote: > > > >> > >> > >> Timur Ruban wrote: > >> > >> > Pretty much the same here. We started having a number > >>of random problems: > >> > - Frequent WebDNA service shut downs > >> > >> Tim, if your WebDNA crashes you have a chance of loosing > >>any new data that has not > >> been written to the hard disk. > >> > >> Make sure your databases are committed often enough. > >> > >> > > >> > - database records randomly cloning themselves (upto > >>75 identical records > >> > from one visitor in tima frame of 1 minute) > >> > >> Sounds like a refresh or something > >> > >> > > >> > - .. and now of course those disappearing chunks of > >>data. the last one > >> > was the largest one - I believe around 5 months worth > >>of data (about 70K > >> > records from 150K total in the database). > >> > Tim > >> > >> We have 1500 products or so in our main store and > >>haven't lost a single character. > >> > >> Site has been running for approx. 8 months or so now. > >> MacOS - 4.5 > >> > >> Donovan > >> > >> > > >> > > >> > On Thu, 29 Aug 2002, marc malacarme wrote: > >> > > >> > > I had it happen on OS9 though with webstar webcat > >>4.5. I didn't loose a > >> > > couple I lost a large chunk. Since no one ever > >>complained about such an > >> > > issue on the list thought it might have been user > >>error or a fluke. > >> > > > >> > > > Hi, > >> > > > Have anyone had any problems with data > >>disappearing by itself from WebDNA > >> > > > 4.5 databases? Since upgrading a couple of our > >>customers to v. 4.5 we > >> > > > have been observing instances (on both OS X and > >>Solaris environments) when > >> > > > large chunks of data have disappeared from the > >>databases. They are random > >> > > > and range from couple of records all the way to > >>tens of thousands. > >> > > > Any thoughts? > >> > > > > >> > > > Tim Ruban > >> > > > Executive VP > >> > > > FRONTEX > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------------------------------------- > >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed > >>to > >> the mailing list . > >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > >> > >> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > >> > >> Web Archive of this list is at: > >>http://search.smithmicro.com/ > >> > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------- > >This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > > the mailing list . > >To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > > > >To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > > > >Web Archive of this list is at: > >http://search.smithmicro.com/ > > ------------------------------------------- > http://www.StrongGraphicDesign.com > (208) 319-0137 | Toll-free p/f 877-561-1656 > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > Web Archive of this list is at: http://search.smithmicro.com/ > ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://search.smithmicro.com/ Timur Ruban

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