Re: Car Database
This WebDNA talk-list message is from 2002
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numero = 44184
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texte = Since we're talking car dealerships, one of my sites is an _Authorized_ Ford dealer (site done in WebDNA): http://www.halhartonford.com but don't copy any of the car spec info, it's copyrighted. Ha! had to throw that in there.Seriously, I have another question but I'll put it under it's own subject.GK | On 10/17/02 4:08 PM, Inkblot Media
wrote: | | > This is like amazon copyrighting their one-click. It is ridiculous. | Well, lets say that when a company (anyone) goes to some expense to collect | and dispense information on the web, any copying of that data in such a way | that was not intended by the authors is subject to this type of debate. | Being one of those authors, I agree whole heartedly. So while I respect your | opinion I don't agree that is either like the Amazon pursuit of patent nor | ridiculous. | | | > This information is available on dozens if not hundreds of other sites. | And many their sources come with costs and most/all of their efforts come | with investments. | | | | > I just mention KBB as they are a leader in this field. | > | > I am not trying to emulate KBB, thus I am not stepping on any copyrighted | > material. I am wanting to gather the standard data that goes with cars, | > based on makes/models/etc. | Understood. This is why I think, as did others, that you needed to pursue | permission from anyone you are trying to gather that data from. Before you | require any company to invest in your project through the use of their | servers, bandwidth and labors, permission is practically mandatory from a | legal perspective. But if legality isn't an issue then all bets are off. | | This same exact debate comes up in the idea of calling images from someone | else's servers even though those images might be public domain. It is still | illegal to utilize their bandwidth and servers to populate your sites | without their permissions. | | Companies have fought and won damages for these types of things. And in my | personal opinion ...justifiably so. | | | | | > | > It would take far to long to go to every dealer to gather this info. | Agreed. TCPIP for this type of thing is like collecting sand with tweezers. | | | > | > I am awaiting a response to KBB, I am sure it will come with a price tag. | > Which i respect as if i had compiled this list I would want compensation. | | > So i was just looking to see if I had other options. | Best option that comes to mind is securing some data source that is updated | via FTP or CD which would almost certainly come with some type of cost. | | HTH | Alex | | | | | Alex J McCombie New World Media | Chief Information Officer Drawer 607 | 800/724.8973 Fair Haven, NY 13064 | Alex@NewWorldMedia.com http://OurClients.com | | Interface Designer WebDNA Programmer Database Designer | | | | ------------------------------------------------------------- | This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to | the mailing list . | To unsubscribe, E-mail to: | To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to | Web Archive of this list is at: http://search.smithmicro.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://search.smithmicro.com/
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Since we're talking car dealerships, one of my sites is an _Authorized_ Ford dealer (site done in WebDNA): http://www.halhartonford.com but don't copy any of the car spec info, it's copyrighted. Ha! had to throw that in there.Seriously, I have another question but I'll put it under it's own subject.GK | On 10/17/02 4:08 PM, Inkblot Media wrote: | | > This is like amazon copyrighting their one-click. It is ridiculous. | Well, lets say that when a company (anyone) goes to some expense to collect | and dispense information on the web, any copying of that data in such a way | that was not intended by the authors is subject to this type of debate. | Being one of those authors, I agree whole heartedly. So while I respect your | opinion I don't agree that is either like the Amazon pursuit of patent nor | ridiculous. | | | > This information is available on dozens if not hundreds of other sites. | And many their sources come with costs and most/all of their efforts come | with investments. | | | | > I just mention KBB as they are a leader in this field. | > | > I am not trying to emulate KBB, thus I am not stepping on any copyrighted | > material. I am wanting to gather the standard data that goes with cars, | > based on makes/models/etc. | Understood. This is why I think, as did others, that you needed to pursue | permission from anyone you are trying to gather that data from. Before you | require any company to invest in your project through the use of their | servers, bandwidth and labors, permission is practically mandatory from a | legal perspective. But if legality isn't an issue then all bets are off. | | This same exact debate comes up in the idea of calling images from someone | else's servers even though those images might be public domain. It is still | illegal to utilize their bandwidth and servers to populate your sites | without their permissions. | | Companies have fought and won damages for these types of things. And in my | personal opinion ...justifiably so. | | | | | > | > It would take far to long to go to every dealer to gather this info. | Agreed. TCPIP for this type of thing is like collecting sand with tweezers. | | | > | > I am awaiting a response to KBB, I am sure it will come with a price tag. | > Which i respect as if i had compiled this list I would want compensation. | | > So i was just looking to see if I had other options. | Best option that comes to mind is securing some data source that is updated | via FTP or CD which would almost certainly come with some type of cost. | | HTH | Alex | | | | | Alex J McCombie New World Media | Chief Information Officer Drawer 607 | 800/724.8973 Fair Haven, NY 13064 | Alex@NewWorldMedia.com http://OurClients.com | | Interface Designer WebDNA Programmer Database Designer | | | | ------------------------------------------------------------- | This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to | the mailing list . | To unsubscribe, E-mail to: | To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to | Web Archive of this list is at: http://search.smithmicro.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://search.smithmicro.com/
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