Re: CGI and SSI

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2002

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texte = Hi EveryoneJust thought I would point you in the direction ofhttp://www.bignosebird.com/ssi.shtml , I found the site very helpful when itcame to using SSI's for the first time. I did however find that I could nolonger use them on a site that was to run using WebDNA though.Anyway, I hope you find it useful...Alanon 19/11/02 1:34 am, Tim Robinson at tim@imagine.com.au wrote:> Hi Frank, > > Well, I have to say that that SSI description is even crapper than mine!! What> a load of stink. It's too long anyway... it's like calling a 'pencil' a> 'lead-based writing implement', and it seems to only be defining the include> tag and not all the other ones. Whatever webserver you're running will> probably have a description of available SSI tags.> > In terms of whether it's proper to use those terms re WebDNA: personally I> don't care and am not going to lose much sleep over it. ;-) I'm not much of a> terminology nazi. Maybe someone else on the list is?> > Regards,> Tim> > > > On Tuesday, 19 November 2002 12:23 PM, Frank Nordberg > wrote:>> >> >> Tim Robinson wrote:>>> SSI stands for Server Side Include. These are basically tags>> associated with your webserver. Standard SSIs being for date,>> include file (in the form ), and counters all of which can be done with WebDNA.>>> >>> CGI stands for Common Gateway Interface. I believe it usually>> refers to CGI scripts created in Perl to control forms actions,>> but I've heard a lot of people talking about CGI as any>> middleware app. So by that definition, WebDNA is CGI...>> probably depends on who publishes your geek dictionary....>> >> >> Thanks Tim, I can use those descriptions. It doesn't answer my main>> question, though>> The Online Computing Dictionary at http://www.instantweb.com/ defines>> SSI as:>> The facility provided by several HTTP servers, e.g. NCSA httpd, to>> replace certain HTML tags in one HTML file with the contents of another>> file at the time when the file is sent out by the server, i.e. an HTML>> macro.>> >> and CGI as:>> A standard for running external programs from a World-Wide Web HTTP>> server. CGI specifies how to pass arguments to the executing program as>> part of the HTTP request. It also defines a set of environment>> variables. Commonly, the program will generate some HTML which will be>> passed back to the browser but it can also request URL>> redirection.>> >> WebDNA does everything you'd expect from a SSI from a CGI application,>> but the way it works, doesn't seem to fit the strict definitions. So is>> it proper to use those two terms when we're talking about>> WebDNA?>> >> Frank Nordberg>> http://www.musicaviva.com>> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------->> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to>> the mailing list .>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to>> >> Web Archive of this list is at: http://search.smithmicro.com/>> > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to> the mailing list .> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to> > Web Archive of this list is at: http://search.smithmicro.com/-------------------------------------------------------------This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list .To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://search.smithmicro.com/ Associated Messages, from the most recent to the oldest:

Re: CGI and SSI (Dan Strong 2002)
Re: CGI and SSI (John Peacock 2002)
Re: CGI and SSI (Kenneth Grome 2002)
Re: CGI and SSI (Alan White 2002)
Re: CGI and SSI (Tim Robinson 2002)
Re: CGI and SSI (Frank Nordberg 2002)
Re: CGI and SSI (Tim Robinson 2002)
CGI and SSI (Frank Nordberg 2002)

Hi EveryoneJust thought I would point you in the direction ofhttp://www.bignosebird.com/ssi.shtml , I found the site very helpful when itcame to using SSI's for the first time. I did however find that I could nolonger use them on a site that was to run using WebDNA though.Anyway, I hope you find it useful...Alanon 19/11/02 1:34 am, Tim Robinson at tim@imagine.com.au wrote:> Hi Frank, > > Well, I have to say that that SSI description is even crapper than mine!! What> a load of stink. It's too long anyway... it's like calling a 'pencil' a> 'lead-based writing implement', and it seems to only be defining the include> tag and not all the other ones. Whatever webserver you're running will> probably have a description of available SSI tags.> > In terms of whether it's proper to use those terms re WebDNA: personally I> don't care and am not going to lose much sleep over it. ;-) I'm not much of a> terminology nazi. Maybe someone else on the list is?> > Regards,> Tim> > > > On Tuesday, 19 November 2002 12:23 PM, Frank Nordberg > wrote:>> >> >> Tim Robinson wrote:>>> SSI stands for Server Side Include. These are basically tags>> associated with your webserver. Standard SSIs being for date,>> include file (in the form ), and counters all of which can be done with WebDNA.>>> >>> CGI stands for Common Gateway Interface. I believe it usually>> refers to CGI scripts created in Perl to control forms actions,>> but I've heard a lot of people talking about CGI as any>> middleware app. So by that definition, WebDNA is CGI...>> probably depends on who publishes your geek dictionary....>> >> >> Thanks Tim, I can use those descriptions. It doesn't answer my main>> question, though>> The Online Computing Dictionary at http://www.instantweb.com/ defines>> SSI as:>> The facility provided by several HTTP servers, e.g. NCSA httpd, to>> replace certain HTML tags in one HTML file with the contents of another>> file at the time when the file is sent out by the server, i.e. an HTML>> macro.>> >> and CGI as:>> A standard for running external programs from a World-Wide Web HTTP>> server. CGI specifies how to pass arguments to the executing program as>> part of the HTTP request. It also defines a set of environment>> variables. Commonly, the program will generate some HTML which will be>> passed back to the browser but it can also request URL>> redirection.>> >> WebDNA does everything you'd expect from a SSI from a CGI application,>> but the way it works, doesn't seem to fit the strict definitions. So is>> it proper to use those two terms when we're talking about>> WebDNA?>> >> Frank Nordberg>> http://www.musicaviva.com>> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------->> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to>> the mailing list .>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to>> >> Web Archive of this list is at: http://search.smithmicro.com/>> > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to> the mailing list .> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to> > Web Archive of this list is at: http://search.smithmicro.com/-------------------------------------------------------------This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list .To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://search.smithmicro.com/ Alan White

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