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Re: [OT] 'Email this story to a friend'

This WebDNA talk-list message is from

2003


It keeps the original formatting.
numero = 49328
interpreted = N
texte = Alex, as I said, luckily, I barely averted the spamcop hell myself but I can definitely see the problem w/spamcop big time now. Up until now I have been gleefully reporting my spam to spamcop. But then I got on the other side of it and really had to take a good look at it as a whole. The system is definitiely good and noble in concept but flawed in practice. And while it DOES cut down on spam it drags a lot of 'innocents' down with it... kind of like throwing the baby out with the bathwater..Anyhow, I feel your pain, I too will refrain from going further off-topic, and as far as it being too early for drinks, I will quote from a sitcom the other day that made me laugh:C'mon, man, let's go have a drink But it's 8am... We'll get some eggs with it. Now C'mon.:)-Dan ------------------------------------------------------------ http://www.StrongGraphicDesign.com (208) 319-0137 | Toll-free p/f 877-561-1656 -------------------------------------------------------------DanOn Tue, 08 Apr 2003 13:19:36 Alex McCombie wrote: >On 4/8/03 1:04 PM, Dan Strong wrote: > >> That's all. Maybe there's no way to stop it, really. Maybe spamcop is the >> problem... >Yeah spamcop is the problem. I wont bore everyone here with the holy hell I >had to go through with them to get my system off their black list. > >Essentially it is ONE guy who started an experimental' system that has been >adopted by some isps. > >>From what I could gather he (spamcop) has numerous complaints and pending >lawsuits, reports to Attorney Generals, and tons of legitimate systems being >shutdown as collateral damage. > >He avoids some legalities by not selling the software but encouraging >'donations' to the righteous cause of spam fighting. > >I too hate spam. I too spend great efforts to avoid anything on my network >being used for anything remotely resembling spam... But a spam regulatory >system that is subject to fraudulent reports of abuse (just fake a spam from >someone, including the headers ad report them) as the basis of their >criteria is flawed and irresponsible. No wonder everyone is suing them. > >Okay this got my blood pressure up ;-) reliving the 36 hour hell all over >again ;-) > >Alex >Too early for a drink? ;-) > > > >Alex J McCombie New World Media >Chief Information Officer Drawer 607 >800/724.8973 Fair Haven, NY 13064 >Alex@NewWorldMedia.com http://OurClients.com > >Interface Designer WebDNA Programmer Database Designer > > > >------------------------------------------------------------- >This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . >To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ Associated Messages, from the most recent to the oldest:

    
  1. Re: [OT] 'Email this story to a friend' (Sal D'anna 2003)
  2. Re: [OT] 'Email this story to a friend' (John Peacock 2003)
  3. Re: [OT] 'Email this story to a friend' (Rob Marquardt 2003)
  4. Re: [OT] 'Email this story to a friend' (Donovan 2003)
  5. Re: [OT] 'Email this story to a friend' (Sal D'anna 2003)
  6. Re: [OT] 'Email this story to a friend' (Dan Strong 2003)
  7. Re: [OT] 'Email this story to a friend' (Alex McCombie 2003)
  8. Re: [OT] 'Email this story to a friend' (Kimberly D. Walls 2003)
  9. Re: [OT] 'Email this story to a friend' (Dan Strong 2003)
  10. Re: [OT] 'Email this story to a friend' (Dan Strong 2003)
  11. Re: [OT] 'Email this story to a friend' (Matthew Bohne 2003)
  12. Re: [OT] 'Email this story to a friend' (Dan Strong 2003)
  13. Re: [OT] 'Email this story to a friend' (Alex McCombie 2003)
  14. Re: [OT] 'Email this story to a friend' (Donovan 2003)
  15. Re: [OT] 'Email this story to a friend' (Alex McCombie 2003)
  16. Re: [OT] 'Email this story to a friend' (Dan Strong 2003)
  17. Re: [OT] 'Email this story to a friend' (Alex McCombie 2003)
  18. Re: [OT] 'Email this story to a friend' (Donovan 2003)
  19. Re: [OT] 'Email this story to a friend' (Dan Strong 2003)
  20. Re: [OT] 'Email this story to a friend' (Matthew A Perosi 2003)
  21. Re: [OT] 'Email this story to a friend' (Alex McCombie 2003)
  22. Re: [OT] 'Email this story to a friend' (John Peacock 2003)
  23. [OT] 'Email this story to a friend' (Dan Strong 2003)
Alex, as I said, luckily, I barely averted the spamcop hell myself but I can definitely see the problem w/spamcop big time now. Up until now I have been gleefully reporting my spam to spamcop. But then I got on the other side of it and really had to take a good look at it as a whole. The system is definitiely good and noble in concept but flawed in practice. And while it DOES cut down on spam it drags a lot of 'innocents' down with it... kind of like throwing the baby out with the bathwater..Anyhow, I feel your pain, I too will refrain from going further off-topic, and as far as it being too early for drinks, I will quote from a sitcom the other day that made me laugh:C'mon, man, let's go have a drink But it's 8am... We'll get some eggs with it. Now C'mon.:)-Dan ------------------------------------------------------------ http://www.StrongGraphicDesign.com (208) 319-0137 | Toll-free p/f 877-561-1656 -------------------------------------------------------------DanOn Tue, 08 Apr 2003 13:19:36 Alex McCombie wrote: >On 4/8/03 1:04 PM, Dan Strong wrote: > >> That's all. Maybe there's no way to stop it, really. Maybe spamcop is the >> problem... >Yeah spamcop is the problem. I wont bore everyone here with the holy hell I >had to go through with them to get my system off their black list. > >Essentially it is ONE guy who started an experimental' system that has been >adopted by some isps. > >>From what I could gather he (spamcop) has numerous complaints and pending >lawsuits, reports to Attorney Generals, and tons of legitimate systems being >shutdown as collateral damage. > >He avoids some legalities by not selling the software but encouraging >'donations' to the righteous cause of spam fighting. > >I too hate spam. I too spend great efforts to avoid anything on my network >being used for anything remotely resembling spam... But a spam regulatory >system that is subject to fraudulent reports of abuse (just fake a spam from >someone, including the headers ad report them) as the basis of their >criteria is flawed and irresponsible. No wonder everyone is suing them. > >Okay this got my blood pressure up ;-) reliving the 36 hour hell all over >again ;-) > >Alex >Too early for a drink? ;-) > > > >Alex J McCombie New World Media >Chief Information Officer Drawer 607 >800/724.8973 Fair Haven, NY 13064 >Alex@NewWorldMedia.com http://OurClients.com > >Interface Designer WebDNA Programmer Database Designer > > > >------------------------------------------------------------- >This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . >To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ Dan Strong

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