Re: [OT] Re: Read and weep
This WebDNA talk-list message is from 2003
It keeps the original formatting.
numero = 53940
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texte = On 11/11/03 2:14 PM, "Nitai @ ComputerOil"
wrote: job fast and easy. >=20 >> I keep voicing that SMSI needs to keep updating their commerce side >> of things (storebuilder, Gateway hookups etc..). I think this is >> where WebDNA shows its greatest advantage. >=20 > Have to disagree here. Over here (Europe) people don=B9t want to hear about > ecommerce anymore, they all want to know how a application can connect to > their backend and how to maintain their website, data and so on. The > commerce part is nice to have but not the main point anymore. >=20 > I will even say, that PHP got so big, because they have a complete SQL > (MySQL) integration done. This is mostly all what people care about. Sad = but > true. >=20 > Don=B9t get me wrong, but did you ever try to sell a very big company a Web= DNA > solution based on the flat files system. We have lost 4 pitches because o= f > that. They all went with a system (less featured packed as ours) with a S= QL > database (because of their backends). >=20 > Nitai I second this. Ecommerce is NOT what most of my experience shows is valuable. Backend integration, site content management, performance speed are far more sought after in my experience. In fact I would say in all the development we do in DNA, that less than 5% is ecom. True story. It is unfortunate that superior products, like WebDNA often fall victim to lack of market share. The trouble is that ultimately it's own lack of marke= t share often is the cause of eroding market share causing a viscous circle. Larger projects start to go the way of what is familiar (I am currently fighting for my life on one long term & huge WebDNA project). The client is often happy, thrilled even, with the performance and features, but ultimately they take hell for the vulnerability/insecurity that comes from being on a platform that very few people know/understand/use. I am an AVID MSFT hater... I don't really hide it much... But I have often thought that my ideal situation would be the purchase of the technology by the big greedy blue monster. I could find myself wayyy ahead of the curve o= n knowing and supporting a platform that would almost certainly be well received.=20 But, wishing rarely makes it happen. I can say with complete honesty that I could probably have grown my company 3 fold if I hadn't forced us into a niche platform. I truly believe it outperforms every product out there for small to medium size projects in every way but one... Customer awareness an= d acceptance. But that is my bed and I have to sleep in it. I love WebDNA and will probably always consider it my platform of preference though I cant help feel like the guy who kept pushing BETA over VHS because it was better. ;-) Lol... Now that dates me ... Moving on Alex J McCombie New World Media Chief Information Officer Box 124 888/892.6379 MartVille, NY 13111 Alex@NewWorldMedia.com http://OurClients.com Interface Designer WebDNA Programmer Database Designer ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/
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On 11/11/03 2:14 PM, "Nitai @ ComputerOil" wrote: job fast and easy. >=20 >> I keep voicing that SMSI needs to keep updating their commerce side >> of things (storebuilder, Gateway hookups etc..). I think this is >> where WebDNA shows its greatest advantage. >=20 > Have to disagree here. Over here (Europe) people don=B9t want to hear about > ecommerce anymore, they all want to know how a application can connect to > their backend and how to maintain their website, data and so on. The > commerce part is nice to have but not the main point anymore. >=20 > I will even say, that PHP got so big, because they have a complete SQL > (MySQL) integration done. This is mostly all what people care about. Sad = but > true. >=20 > Don=B9t get me wrong, but did you ever try to sell a very big company a Web= DNA > solution based on the flat files system. We have lost 4 pitches because o= f > that. They all went with a system (less featured packed as ours) with a S= QL > database (because of their backends). >=20 > Nitai I second this. Ecommerce is NOT what most of my experience shows is valuable. Backend integration, site content management, performance speed are far more sought after in my experience. In fact I would say in all the development we do in DNA, that less than 5% is ecom. True story. It is unfortunate that superior products, like WebDNA often fall victim to lack of market share. The trouble is that ultimately it's own lack of marke= t share often is the cause of eroding market share causing a viscous circle. Larger projects start to go the way of what is familiar (I am currently fighting for my life on one long term & huge WebDNA project). The client is often happy, thrilled even, with the performance and features, but ultimately they take hell for the vulnerability/insecurity that comes from being on a platform that very few people know/understand/use. I am an AVID MSFT hater... I don't really hide it much... But I have often thought that my ideal situation would be the purchase of the technology by the big greedy blue monster. I could find myself wayyy ahead of the curve o= n knowing and supporting a platform that would almost certainly be well received.=20 But, wishing rarely makes it happen. I can say with complete honesty that I could probably have grown my company 3 fold if I hadn't forced us into a niche platform. I truly believe it outperforms every product out there for small to medium size projects in every way but one... Customer awareness an= d acceptance. But that is my bed and I have to sleep in it. I love WebDNA and will probably always consider it my platform of preference though I cant help feel like the guy who kept pushing BETA over VHS because it was better. ;-) Lol... Now that dates me ... Moving on Alex J McCombie New World Media Chief Information Officer Box 124 888/892.6379 MartVille, NY 13111 Alex@NewWorldMedia.com http://OurClients.com Interface Designer WebDNA Programmer Database Designer ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/
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