Re: WebDNA for Dummies
This WebDNA talk-list message is from 2004
It keeps the original formatting.
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texte = I'll look into the CMS and I hope that it is relatively easy to do. My criteria for any helpful online tool that is devised has (1) the ability to accept postings from anyone with ease (I never remember passwords), (2) postings can be moderated from time to time to keep on topic or to correct inaccuracies, and (3) there should be an upload area so we can finally have a sourceforge equivalent for WebDNA. Perhaps this will need some sort of trusted access. I'd like to see efforts on the database digger continue in the GPL manner. In order to keep the site fresh, new posts would need to be visible on one page. Permitting document elaboration in a forum environment with code snippets that can be moderated would be an outstanding start for advanced users. The present site just misses because it uses frames, is not moderated and lacks a search feature. Ideally I could search google for: site:www.webdnaforum.com search comparisons to find the exact page I want, even if the site has no internal search feature. I'm absolutely not trying to discourage anyone from creating a book or online docs. A book/simple overview could work really well for a walkthrough of creating a single basic site or examples of specific tools based on the downloads on the main site. This could let people who want to get involved see how easy it is. It could also be used to sell clients on the advantages of WebDNA versus other tools. I liked Brian's site and his examples. Bill -----Original Message----- From: Phillip Bonesteele
Sent: Thu, 4 Mar 2004 11:56:35 -0800 To: (WebDNA Talk) Subject: Re: WebDNA for Dummies This was already done several months ago ... I created a 'public' workgroup in the CMS instance for the DRC, that allows anyone registered as a DRC member to submit modifications to any of the 'downloads' WebDNA templates, and also the reference documentation. Any "check-ins" would be reviewed prior to submission to the production site. Look in the TalkList Archives, for an submission by me dated 7/22/03, Subject: DRC Content Management Site. Phil B. -----Original Message----- From: WebDNA Talk [mailto:WebDNA-Talk@talk.smithmicro.com] On Behalf Of Sal D'Anna Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 11:37 AM To: WebDNA Talk Subject: Re: WebDNA for Dummies What if SMSI put the online docs into the DRC CMS. Then sections could be checked out by anyone who wants to contribute and would not be visible online until approved or validated by SMSI. This would allow a way to update the docs as well as a check for errors by SMSI. Sal D'Anna -----Original Message----- From: WebDNA Talk [mailto:WebDNA-Talk@talk.smithmicro.com] On Behalf Of Marc Kaiwi Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 9:09 AM To: WebDNA Talk Subject: Re: WebDNA for Dummies The online docs "could" be (as some might say) killer. But, this too would require a great organized effort to develop. Helter-skelter additions of code examples and snippets would soon become like the list archives, a hundred pounds of dirt for every ounce of gold. Either way, online or pulp, it's a worthwhile project. MK On Mar 4, 2004, at 7:00 AM, devaulw@onebox.com wrote: > I understand why people would like this to happen, but I'd rather see > something else. I think it would be far more helpful if people > contributed more snippets to the online docs at SM. This type of > effort should be minimal, presumably because the code has been drafted > by contributor. This effort will also be useful when the next step > occurs about writing a book. > Frankly, I'd love to see someone mine the archives, and summarize to > the online docs with contributed examples. For example, the tip > yesterday about the rewrite rule in apache is not purely a WebDNA tip, > but it needs to be organized into a tips file for others to easily > find. It shows how flexible this language can be. > > I also know that I've only made minimal contributions so far to those > online docs because I've not found that they're easy to navigate being > frame based. If properly rewritten using a helpful format that is > searchable (providing results alongside talklist results) would be a > valuable tool. > > After this has been set up and used for a while, I'd imagine there'd > be plenty to cull from to write a book or even render a book > unnecessary. > > Bill > > -----Original Message----- > From: Pat Holliday > Sent: Thu, 4 Mar 2004 12:28:10 +0000 > To: (WebDNA Talk) > Subject: Re: WebDNA for Dummies > > 2 cents is worth about 1.09 pence. > > Not got the same ring to it tho.. :o) > > Pat > > On 4 Mar 2004, at 11:57, Alan White wrote: > >> on 3/4/04 6:00 AM, Kenneth Grome at webdna@kengrome.com wrote: >> >>> And if someone is only going to do it half way, then why waste the >>> time to even start it? >> >> Frank has already started ;-) So why not take the next few steps...? >> Think >> of like like a baby ... err.... sorry, I have one one the way and >> can't get them out of my head he he :D >> >> Seriously though... momentum isn't hard to build if folk *want* to >> chime in... I am no expert so maybe I should write the first couple >> of chapters and how I have learned "... as a Dummie!" >> >> That's just my 2 cents... >> >> Alan >> >> *mumbles* where's my damn currency converter I live in the UK!!! >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >> >> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ >> >> > --------------------------------------------------------- > Netro42 - http://www.netro42.com > Web design and development > --------------------------------------------------------- > Netro42 Limited > 39 - 51 Highgate Road London NW5 1RT > T: 020 7267 7002 > F: 020 7267 7544 > E: mailto:patrick.holliday@netro42.com > --------------------------------------------------------- > > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing > list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > > Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing > list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > > Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ > > Signed: Marc Kaiwi ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . 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I'll look into the CMS and I hope that it is relatively easy to do. My criteria for any helpful online tool that is devised has (1) the ability to accept postings from anyone with ease (I never remember passwords), (2) postings can be moderated from time to time to keep on topic or to correct inaccuracies, and (3) there should be an upload area so we can finally have a sourceforge equivalent for WebDNA. Perhaps this will need some sort of trusted access. I'd like to see efforts on the database digger continue in the GPL manner. In order to keep the site fresh, new posts would need to be visible on one page. Permitting document elaboration in a forum environment with code snippets that can be moderated would be an outstanding start for advanced users. The present site just misses because it uses frames, is not moderated and lacks a search feature. Ideally I could search google for: site:www.webdnaforum.com search comparisons to find the exact page I want, even if the site has no internal search feature. I'm absolutely not trying to discourage anyone from creating a book or online docs. A book/simple overview could work really well for a walkthrough of creating a single basic site or examples of specific tools based on the downloads on the main site. This could let people who want to get involved see how easy it is. It could also be used to sell clients on the advantages of WebDNA versus other tools. I liked Brian's site and his examples. Bill -----Original Message----- From: Phillip Bonesteele Sent: Thu, 4 Mar 2004 11:56:35 -0800 To: (WebDNA Talk) Subject: Re: WebDNA for Dummies This was already done several months ago ... I created a 'public' workgroup in the CMS instance for the DRC, that allows anyone registered as a DRC member to submit modifications to any of the 'downloads' WebDNA templates, and also the reference documentation. Any "check-ins" would be reviewed prior to submission to the production site. Look in the TalkList Archives, for an submission by me dated 7/22/03, Subject: DRC Content Management Site. Phil B. -----Original Message----- From: WebDNA Talk [mailto:WebDNA-Talk@talk.smithmicro.com] On Behalf Of Sal D'Anna Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 11:37 AM To: WebDNA Talk Subject: Re: WebDNA for Dummies What if SMSI put the online docs into the DRC CMS. Then sections could be checked out by anyone who wants to contribute and would not be visible online until approved or validated by SMSI. This would allow a way to update the docs as well as a check for errors by SMSI. Sal D'Anna -----Original Message----- From: WebDNA Talk [mailto:WebDNA-Talk@talk.smithmicro.com] On Behalf Of Marc Kaiwi Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 9:09 AM To: WebDNA Talk Subject: Re: WebDNA for Dummies The online docs "could" be (as some might say) killer. But, this too would require a great organized effort to develop. Helter-skelter additions of code examples and snippets would soon become like the list archives, a hundred pounds of dirt for every ounce of gold. Either way, online or pulp, it's a worthwhile project. MK On Mar 4, 2004, at 7:00 AM, devaulw@onebox.com wrote: > I understand why people would like this to happen, but I'd rather see > something else. I think it would be far more helpful if people > contributed more snippets to the online docs at SM. This type of > effort should be minimal, presumably because the code has been drafted > by contributor. This effort will also be useful when the next step > occurs about writing a book. > Frankly, I'd love to see someone mine the archives, and summarize to > the online docs with contributed examples. For example, the tip > yesterday about the rewrite rule in apache is not purely a WebDNA tip, > but it needs to be organized into a tips file for others to easily > find. It shows how flexible this language can be. > > I also know that I've only made minimal contributions so far to those > online docs because I've not found that they're easy to navigate being > frame based. If properly rewritten using a helpful format that is > searchable (providing results alongside talklist results) would be a > valuable tool. > > After this has been set up and used for a while, I'd imagine there'd > be plenty to cull from to write a book or even render a book > unnecessary. > > Bill > > -----Original Message----- > From: Pat Holliday > Sent: Thu, 4 Mar 2004 12:28:10 +0000 > To: (WebDNA Talk) > Subject: Re: WebDNA for Dummies > > 2 cents is worth about 1.09 pence. > > Not got the same ring to it tho.. :o) > > Pat > > On 4 Mar 2004, at 11:57, Alan White wrote: > >> on 3/4/04 6:00 AM, Kenneth Grome at webdna@kengrome.com wrote: >> >>> And if someone is only going to do it half way, then why waste the >>> time to even start it? >> >> Frank has already started ;-) So why not take the next few steps...? >> Think >> of like like a baby ... err.... sorry, I have one one the way and >> can't get them out of my head he he :D >> >> Seriously though... momentum isn't hard to build if folk *want* to >> chime in... I am no expert so maybe I should write the first couple >> of chapters and how I have learned "... as a Dummie!" >> >> That's just my 2 cents... >> >> Alan >> >> *mumbles* where's my damn currency converter I live in the UK!!! >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >> >> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ >> >> > --------------------------------------------------------- > Netro42 - http://www.netro42.com > Web design and development > --------------------------------------------------------- > Netro42 Limited > 39 - 51 Highgate Road London NW5 1RT > T: 020 7267 7002 > F: 020 7267 7544 > E: mailto:patrick.holliday@netro42.com > --------------------------------------------------------- > > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing > list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > > Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing > list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > > Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ > > Signed: Marc Kaiwi ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . 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