Re: SOP for WebDNA talk - MSNBot Crashing
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texte = I don't mean to cause trouble here but I can't remember the lsat time I saw WebDNA crash .. not even under heavy load .. The first thing I would look for here is some bad code .. code that expects a cart to be passed, eg - what happens if you call the page with no cart= ? I just don't buy the webDNA crashing line anymore .. Alain On 14/05/2004, at 6:59 AM, Paul Uttermohlen wrote: > Blocking the ranges of IP's used by the MSNBot servers via the > firewall did > the trick.... BUT the client wants the sites indexed by MSN. > > Gotta let them in... Gotta keep webcat from crashing a thousand times > an > hour... > > Paul > > > > > On 5/13/04 2:09 PM, "Gary Krockover"
wrote: > >> Can you do a redirect for MSNBots, something like: >> >> [showif [browsername]^MSNBOT] >> [redirect (to a static sitemap that has no links & doesn't carry the >> [cart])] >> [/showif] >> >> Not sure if that would rectify the problem, just thinking out loud.... >> >> GK >> >> At 11:37 AM 5/13/2004, you wrote: >>> Scott, >>> >>> This looks like what I experienced last week. I tracked the cart >>> problems >>> down to MSNBot which was flooding the shopping cart folder with >>> carts. Many >>> of the carts had file names that where hundreds of characters long. >>> That was >>> partly due to the way I handle cart naming for repeat customers. >>> >>> MSNBot is beta. I think it is flawed. MSN insists that it's just >>> sophisticated. And perhaps it is WebDNA that is flawed. >>> >>> There may be some truth to that. Large volumes of carts or long file >>> names >>> for carts should not cause Webcatalog to crash, but it does... And >>> with >>> great frequency and predictability. >>> >>> So Scott, if there is anything that you can do to stop this crashing >>> behavior displayed when MSNBot floods our servers it would be greatly >>> appreciated. >>> >>> Crashes occur on 4.5.1, 5.0.1 and 6 >>> >>> Thanks, Paul >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >> >> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ > > ________________________________________________________ > Paul Uttermohlen > http://www.Anoweb.com/ > http://www.Uttermohlen.com/ > Paul@Anoweb.com > Columbus, Ohio 43026 > 614-529-8963 > _______________________________________________________ > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > > Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ > ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/
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I don't mean to cause trouble here but I can't remember the lsat time I saw WebDNA crash .. not even under heavy load .. The first thing I would look for here is some bad code .. code that expects a cart to be passed, eg - what happens if you call the page with no cart= ? I just don't buy the webDNA crashing line anymore .. Alain On 14/05/2004, at 6:59 AM, Paul Uttermohlen wrote: > Blocking the ranges of IP's used by the MSNBot servers via the > firewall did > the trick.... BUT the client wants the sites indexed by MSN. > > Gotta let them in... Gotta keep webcat from crashing a thousand times > an > hour... > > Paul > > > > > On 5/13/04 2:09 PM, "Gary Krockover" wrote: > >> Can you do a redirect for MSNBots, something like: >> >> [showif [browsername]^MSNBOT] >> [redirect (to a static sitemap that has no links & doesn't carry the >> [cart])] >> [/showif] >> >> Not sure if that would rectify the problem, just thinking out loud.... >> >> GK >> >> At 11:37 AM 5/13/2004, you wrote: >>> Scott, >>> >>> This looks like what I experienced last week. I tracked the cart >>> problems >>> down to MSNBot which was flooding the shopping cart folder with >>> carts. Many >>> of the carts had file names that where hundreds of characters long. >>> That was >>> partly due to the way I handle cart naming for repeat customers. >>> >>> MSNBot is beta. I think it is flawed. MSN insists that it's just >>> sophisticated. And perhaps it is WebDNA that is flawed. >>> >>> There may be some truth to that. Large volumes of carts or long file >>> names >>> for carts should not cause Webcatalog to crash, but it does... And >>> with >>> great frequency and predictability. >>> >>> So Scott, if there is anything that you can do to stop this crashing >>> behavior displayed when MSNBot floods our servers it would be greatly >>> appreciated. >>> >>> Crashes occur on 4.5.1, 5.0.1 and 6 >>> >>> Thanks, Paul >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >> >> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ > > ________________________________________________________ > Paul Uttermohlen > http://www.Anoweb.com/ > http://www.Uttermohlen.com/ > Paul@Anoweb.com > Columbus, Ohio 43026 > 614-529-8963 > _______________________________________________________ > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > > Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ > ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/
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