Re: WebDNA - fun to compare

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2005


It keeps the original formatting.
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texte = Sometimes (usually) it's more than just coding time that matters to a client. Most development is in PHP and MySQL these days for several very good reasons: 1- There are literally thousands of pre-existing 'scripts' available, many totally free, that save programmers hundreds of hours of time (take a look at any one of ZenCart, osCommerce or X-Cart for an eCommerce implementation that WebDNA *could* have been). 2- PHP and MySQL are installed on virtually every web hosting server in the world, which gives you thousands of choices of a new hosting service when your current one craps out on you. 3- PHP and MySQL are free. 4- There are literally tens of thousands of programmers who can build or fix PHP and MySQL sites, so the client doesn't get tied into a rare proprietary solution such as WebDNA. Having said this, I still try to steer my clients to WebDNA whenever possible, mostly because it's fast and fun for us to use, and it saves the client time and money during development (but costs more for hosting). Unfortunately saving development time and money is the only benefit they get from it, and usually this is not enough to convince them. They have to consider potential hosting problems, potential abandonment of their hard to find and expensive webdna programmer, etc. and sometimes these are more important than saving a few bucks in development. The bottom line is that clients don't care how easy it is for YOU to program, they only care about the issues that matter to them, and this makes webdna undesirable in the majority of cases when compared with the alternatives. Sincerely, Kenneth Grome www.kengrome.com >Do you ever monitor other developer's lists just to see what's going >on in *their* world? > >There's an HTML discussion list that I'm subscribed to and they're >discussion form validation and the passing of form variables in PHP. >They've worked up to glob's of code that looks like a pile of >spaghetti to me. It's something so simple that it would be < 5 >lines of WebDNA + 1 line for each form element. > >Just wish the word would spread..... > >:) > >GJK > > >------------------------------------------------------------- >This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . >To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > >Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ -- ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ Associated Messages, from the most recent to the oldest:

    
  1. Re: WebDNA - fun to compare ( Kenneth Grome 2005)
  2. Re: WebDNA - fun to compare ( devaulw@onebox.com 2005)
  3. Re: WebDNA - fun to compare ( "Nitai @ ComputerOil" 2005)
  4. Re: WebDNA - fun to compare ( John Peacock 2005)
  5. Re: WebDNA - fun to compare ( Kenneth Grome 2005)
  6. Re: WebDNA - fun to compare ( John Peacock 2005)
  7. Re: WebDNA - fun to compare ( Kenneth Grome 2005)
  8. Re: WebDNA - fun to compare ( Donovan Brooke 2005)
  9. Re: WebDNA - fun to compare ( Kenneth Grome 2005)
  10. Re: WebDNA - fun to compare ( Donovan Brooke 2005)
  11. Re: WebDNA - fun to compare ( Chris 2005)
  12. Re: WebDNA - fun to compare ( Donovan Brooke 2005)
  13. Re: WebDNA - fun to compare ( "Gary Krockover" 2005)
  14. Re: WebDNA - fun to compare ( Rob Marquardt 2005)
  15. Re: WebDNA - fun to compare ( "Gary Krockover" 2005)
  16. Re: WebDNA - fun to compare ( "Nitai @ ComputerOil" 2005)
  17. Re: WebDNA - fun to compare ( Kenneth Grome 2005)
  18. Re: WebDNA - fun to compare ( Donovan Brooke 2005)
  19. WebDNA - fun to compare ( Gary Krockover 2005)
Sometimes (usually) it's more than just coding time that matters to a client. Most development is in PHP and MySQL these days for several very good reasons: 1- There are literally thousands of pre-existing 'scripts' available, many totally free, that save programmers hundreds of hours of time (take a look at any one of ZenCart, osCommerce or X-Cart for an eCommerce implementation that WebDNA *could* have been). 2- PHP and MySQL are installed on virtually every web hosting server in the world, which gives you thousands of choices of a new hosting service when your current one craps out on you. 3- PHP and MySQL are free. 4- There are literally tens of thousands of programmers who can build or fix PHP and MySQL sites, so the client doesn't get tied into a rare proprietary solution such as WebDNA. Having said this, I still try to steer my clients to WebDNA whenever possible, mostly because it's fast and fun for us to use, and it saves the client time and money during development (but costs more for hosting). Unfortunately saving development time and money is the only benefit they get from it, and usually this is not enough to convince them. They have to consider potential hosting problems, potential abandonment of their hard to find and expensive webdna programmer, etc. and sometimes these are more important than saving a few bucks in development. The bottom line is that clients don't care how easy it is for YOU to program, they only care about the issues that matter to them, and this makes webdna undesirable in the majority of cases when compared with the alternatives. Sincerely, Kenneth Grome www.kengrome.com >Do you ever monitor other developer's lists just to see what's going >on in *their* world? > >There's an HTML discussion list that I'm subscribed to and they're >discussion form validation and the passing of form variables in PHP. >They've worked up to glob's of code that looks like a pile of >spaghetti to me. It's something so simple that it would be < 5 >lines of WebDNA + 1 line for each form element. > >Just wish the word would spread..... > >:) > >GJK > > >------------------------------------------------------------- >This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . >To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > >Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ -- ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ Kenneth Grome

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