Re: Outsourcing partnership ...
This WebDNA talk-list message is from 2005
It keeps the original formatting.
numero = 61952
interpreted = N
texte = >> Clients seldom ask for contracts, but if they produce one I will sign >> it unless it's unreasonable. And clients always own the code we >> write for them, just as if my programmers were their employees. > Fair enough. I imagine you'd retain & generate copies of the code, in > whole or in part, and utilize it to make future work easier/more > profitable, which is fine since you guys *did* write it after all... > and why re-invent the wheel, etc., but can your clients be certain > that their own code wouldn't be used by you or anyone in your agency > to compete against them? I mean, what if I dish you one doozy of an > idea, you recognize its potential, you build it, then what? Do you > send me the code straight off your drive and then purge your hard > drives of it? Where do you stand/how do you feel about this scenario? I will delete anything and everything from our hard drives that is owned by the client the moment he tells me to delete it. But so far, every client I have worked for during the past ten years has asked me to keep a copy here, and NOT delete it -- apparently for two main reasons: (1) for backup purposes; (2) so we can make changes without download everything from their server. I've been in this business a long time so I have created and I still maintain a wonderful library of webdna code that we use to save programming time on most of our webdna projects. Sometimes I take new code and put it into our library, especially when it's a technique we never used before or if it's a feature we might be asked to use on another site. But this doesn't happen very often any more, since most of what we re-use was added to the library months or years ago. I have never taken anyone else's code or idea and used it to compete against them in any web-based business, or in any other business, and I never will. If I were that kind of guy I would have dozens of web sites online selling the same things that my former clients are selling. But I don't sell anything online, so I have no conflict whatsoever with any of my past or future clients -- and I never will. Of course I have ideas for potentially successful web sites or software packages, how could I not? But if you ask me to develop a web site or software that is similar to one of my own ideas, I will tell you to find someone else -- because I might do the same thing myself some day, and I wouldn't want you pointing the finger at me in the future, accusing me of stealing your code for my own personal gain. The bottom line is that I honor my client's goals at all costs. Sincerely, Kenneth Grome www.kengrome.com ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list
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>> Clients seldom ask for contracts, but if they produce one I will sign >> it unless it's unreasonable. And clients always own the code we >> write for them, just as if my programmers were their employees. > Fair enough. I imagine you'd retain & generate copies of the code, in > whole or in part, and utilize it to make future work easier/more > profitable, which is fine since you guys *did* write it after all... > and why re-invent the wheel, etc., but can your clients be certain > that their own code wouldn't be used by you or anyone in your agency > to compete against them? I mean, what if I dish you one doozy of an > idea, you recognize its potential, you build it, then what? Do you > send me the code straight off your drive and then purge your hard > drives of it? Where do you stand/how do you feel about this scenario? I will delete anything and everything from our hard drives that is owned by the client the moment he tells me to delete it. But so far, every client I have worked for during the past ten years has asked me to keep a copy here, and NOT delete it -- apparently for two main reasons: (1) for backup purposes; (2) so we can make changes without download everything from their server. I've been in this business a long time so I have created and I still maintain a wonderful library of webdna code that we use to save programming time on most of our webdna projects. Sometimes I take new code and put it into our library, especially when it's a technique we never used before or if it's a feature we might be asked to use on another site. But this doesn't happen very often any more, since most of what we re-use was added to the library months or years ago. I have never taken anyone else's code or idea and used it to compete against them in any web-based business, or in any other business, and I never will. If I were that kind of guy I would have dozens of web sites online selling the same things that my former clients are selling. But I don't sell anything online, so I have no conflict whatsoever with any of my past or future clients -- and I never will. Of course I have ideas for potentially successful web sites or software packages, how could I not? But if you ask me to develop a web site or software that is similar to one of my own ideas, I will tell you to find someone else -- because I might do the same thing myself some day, and I wouldn't want you pointing the finger at me in the future, accusing me of stealing your code for my own personal gain. The bottom line is that I honor my client's goals at all costs. Sincerely, Kenneth Grome www.kengrome.com ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/
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