Re: [WebDNA] OT: what is the "right" platform ?
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texte = I agree with this assessment, the advantages that an xserve bring are in =the amount of memory, drives, and hardware monitoring that goes into =them. If you need those features and plenty of folks do then the xserve =is a great way to go. We don't use iTools, but we can see its value for =some folks. I am fairly proficient with the command line and can deal =with most config issues that way. we also use the gui and with each =iteration the gui gets better. I wouldn't trust commerce level sites to =a mac mini unless I was sure of its backups, the xserve gives you that. =We have a lot of people get their feet wet with the mac mini running =snow leopard and snow leopard server, when they outgrow their hardware =they move up to an xserve and they usually know well in advance that its =time for the move.Robert MinorDirector of Internet Services------------------------------------------------------------Cybermill Communications =20http://www.cybermill.com=20Providing Ecommerce and interactive website development andhosting services on Macintosh, Windows NT, *nix, and AS/400.Complete ddos proofting solutions and network services.On Dec 16, 2009, at 10:29 AM, Patrick McCormick wrote:> It might be worth considering an ordinary SL machine (not the server) =and installing something like webmin to help manage apache, bind, and =whatever other services you want the machine to run.>=20> If you don't have to manage lots of different sites and domains, this =works out well. You end up with lots of minis, each one handling only a =few domains. If you plan to load up each machine, you might prefer a =box that can handle more drives as the load grows.>=20> I like how simple managing an ordinary SL machine is. It's already =familiar to me and I can really control what I don't want running for =security sake.>=20> I don't think there's any performance difference between SL Server and =regular SL. They both use Apache, Bind, etc. SL Server provides more =management tools and file sharing features, but for web hosting, there's =not that much difference.>=20> Pat>=20> On Dec 16, 2009, at 9:39 AM, Thierry Almy wrote:>=20>> Hi>>=20>> We're about to set up a new webserver and think about what system to =use ... it has to run on OS X, with Apache and WebDNA plus a few tools =like ImageMagick.>>=20>> We're using iTools for years now. I like the product, the support is =ok (while the mailing list is poor), it runs quite stable but can be =tricky in case of problems / upgrades ... but anyhow, we know in urgent =cases we've got a helping hand at Tenon.=20>>=20>> But ... why not using SnowLeo Server and manage Apache with the =ServerAdmin in there?>>=20>> What are the benefits of OS X Server as an Apache server?>> Is it more difficult to update future releases of Apache?>>=20>> What are you guys using?>>=20>> Thierry>>=20>> ______________________>> mac&web gmbh>> thierry almy>> grabenstrasse 15>> 8200 schaffhausen>> switzerland>> tel +41 (0)52 620 30 60>> fax +41 (0)52 620 30 61>> mail almy@mac-web.ch>> web www.mac-web.ch>>=20>> --------------------------------------------------------->> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to>> the mailing list
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I agree with this assessment, the advantages that an xserve bring are in =the amount of memory, drives, and hardware monitoring that goes into =them. If you need those features and plenty of folks do then the xserve =is a great way to go. We don't use iTools, but we can see its value for =some folks. I am fairly proficient with the command line and can deal =with most config issues that way. we also use the gui and with each =iteration the gui gets better. I wouldn't trust commerce level sites to =a mac mini unless I was sure of its backups, the xserve gives you that. =We have a lot of people get their feet wet with the mac mini running =snow leopard and snow leopard server, when they outgrow their hardware =they move up to an xserve and they usually know well in advance that its =time for the move.Robert MinorDirector of Internet Services------------------------------------------------------------Cybermill Communications =20http://www.cybermill.com=20Providing Ecommerce and interactive website development andhosting services on Macintosh, Windows NT, *nix, and AS/400.Complete ddos proofting solutions and network services.On Dec 16, 2009, at 10:29 AM, Patrick McCormick wrote:> It might be worth considering an ordinary SL machine (not the server) =and installing something like webmin to help manage apache, bind, and =whatever other services you want the machine to run.>=20> If you don't have to manage lots of different sites and domains, this =works out well. You end up with lots of minis, each one handling only a =few domains. If you plan to load up each machine, you might prefer a =box that can handle more drives as the load grows.>=20> I like how simple managing an ordinary SL machine is. It's already =familiar to me and I can really control what I don't want running for =security sake.>=20> I don't think there's any performance difference between SL Server and =regular SL. They both use Apache, Bind, etc. SL Server provides more =management tools and file sharing features, but for web hosting, there's =not that much difference.>=20> Pat>=20> On Dec 16, 2009, at 9:39 AM, Thierry Almy wrote:>=20>> Hi>>=20>> We're about to set up a new webserver and think about what system to =use ... it has to run on OS X, with Apache and WebDNA plus a few tools =like ImageMagick.>>=20>> We're using iTools for years now. I like the product, the support is =ok (while the mailing list is poor), it runs quite stable but can be =tricky in case of problems / upgrades ... but anyhow, we know in urgent =cases we've got a helping hand at Tenon.=20>>=20>> But ... why not using SnowLeo Server and manage Apache with the =ServerAdmin in there?>>=20>> What are the benefits of OS X Server as an Apache server?>> Is it more difficult to update future releases of Apache?>>=20>> What are you guys using?>>=20>> Thierry>>=20>> ______________________>> mac&web gmbh>> thierry almy>> grabenstrasse 15>> 8200 schaffhausen>> switzerland>> tel +41 (0)52 620 30 60>> fax +41 (0)52 620 30 61>> mail almy@mac-web.ch>> web www.mac-web.ch>>=20>> --------------------------------------------------------->> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to>> the mailing list .>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us>> old archives: http://dev.webdna.us/TalkListArchive/>> Bug Reporting: =http://forum.webdna.us/eucabb.html?page=3Dtopics&category=3D288>=20> ---------------------------------------------------------> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to> the mailing list .> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us> old archives: http://dev.webdna.us/TalkListArchive/> Bug Reporting: =http://forum.webdna.us/eucabb.html?page=3Dtopics&category=3D288
Bob Minor
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