Re: [WebDNA] ENCRYPTION problems

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2012


It keeps the original formatting.
numero = 109279
interpreted = N
texte = Thanks for pointers everyone. I have decided to use ENCRYPT without the seed. On 07/07/2012, at 1:12 AM, Donovan Brooke wrote: > Stuart, >=20 > You can store seed encrypted passwords and then decrypt them for auth = purposes (as per Govinda's note), but I think a more safe and standard = method is to store salted hash values that can't ever be decrypted.[1] = Sometimes systems need to be able to retrieve passwords, so this is not = the best in those cases, and you could use WebDNA's encryption instead. = When I use a seed, I like to encrypt the seed as well, in a text file, = then include it and decrypt the seed to auth against. I'm pretty = paranoid in general. ;-) >=20 > 1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salt_%28cryptography%29 >=20 >=20 > christophe.billiottet@webdna.us wrote: >> Included in WebDNA 7+ is a strong blowfish algorithm (probably the = most secure encrypting system available with WebDNA) >> It was also existing in WebDNA 6 but undocumented because there were = some problems with it. Problems fixed with WebDNA 7+. >>=20 >> - chris >=20 > Blowfish will also be included with upcoming release of WebDNA 6.2.1 > Note:, the two WebDNA encryption options (LOKI - WebDNA's default, and = Blowfish) will not work together obviously. Both encryption mechanisms = are strong kung fu. I haven't personally tested the blowfish fix as of = yet. >=20 > Donovan >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Donovan Brooke > WebDNA Software Corporation > http://www.webdna.us > **[Square Bracket Utopia]** > --------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us > Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us Associated Messages, from the most recent to the oldest:

    
  1. Re: [WebDNA] ENCRYPTION problems (Stuart Tremain 2012)
  2. Re: [WebDNA] ENCRYPTION problems (Donovan Brooke 2012)
  3. Re: [WebDNA] ENCRYPTION problems (christophe.billiottet@webdna.us 2012)
  4. Re: [WebDNA] ENCRYPTION problems (Govinda 2012)
  5. [WebDNA] ENCRYPTION problems (Stuart Tremain 2012)
Thanks for pointers everyone. I have decided to use ENCRYPT without the seed. On 07/07/2012, at 1:12 AM, Donovan Brooke wrote: > Stuart, >=20 > You can store seed encrypted passwords and then decrypt them for auth = purposes (as per Govinda's note), but I think a more safe and standard = method is to store salted hash values that can't ever be decrypted.[1] = Sometimes systems need to be able to retrieve passwords, so this is not = the best in those cases, and you could use WebDNA's encryption instead. = When I use a seed, I like to encrypt the seed as well, in a text file, = then include it and decrypt the seed to auth against. I'm pretty = paranoid in general. ;-) >=20 > 1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salt_%28cryptography%29 >=20 >=20 > christophe.billiottet@webdna.us wrote: >> Included in WebDNA 7+ is a strong blowfish algorithm (probably the = most secure encrypting system available with WebDNA) >> It was also existing in WebDNA 6 but undocumented because there were = some problems with it. Problems fixed with WebDNA 7+. >>=20 >> - chris >=20 > Blowfish will also be included with upcoming release of WebDNA 6.2.1 > Note:, the two WebDNA encryption options (LOKI - WebDNA's default, and = Blowfish) will not work together obviously. Both encryption mechanisms = are strong kung fu. I haven't personally tested the blowfish fix as of = yet. >=20 > Donovan >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Donovan Brooke > WebDNA Software Corporation > http://www.webdna.us > **[Square Bracket Utopia]** > --------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us > Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us Stuart Tremain

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